Accommodation Problem
#1
Bothered
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Accommodation Problem
The lease for our current apartment expires on the 27th February.
Our new apartment will not be ready until 01st March.
We have tried to agree an extension of 2 days with the property management company (habtoor properties) but they want 7 days worth of rent for the 2 day extension and are completely unwilling to negotiate as apparently the landlord has no interest in a short extension.
Incredibly frustrating as it makes no difference to simply delay the move in date for new tenants by the 2 days we will pay them for additionally (viewings are ongoing so nobody has secured the apartment yet).
Do we have any cards to play here? Is there anything we can do to try and force the issue or is it simply a case of the landlord's decision being final?
We are in Dubai should it matter.
Thanks for any suggestions in advance.
Our new apartment will not be ready until 01st March.
We have tried to agree an extension of 2 days with the property management company (habtoor properties) but they want 7 days worth of rent for the 2 day extension and are completely unwilling to negotiate as apparently the landlord has no interest in a short extension.
Incredibly frustrating as it makes no difference to simply delay the move in date for new tenants by the 2 days we will pay them for additionally (viewings are ongoing so nobody has secured the apartment yet).
Do we have any cards to play here? Is there anything we can do to try and force the issue or is it simply a case of the landlord's decision being final?
We are in Dubai should it matter.
Thanks for any suggestions in advance.
#2
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,107
Re: Accommodation Problem
The lease for our current apartment expires on the 27th February.
Our new apartment will not be ready until 01st March.
We have tried to agree an extension of 2 days with the property management company (habtoor properties) but they want 7 days worth of rent for the 2 day extension and are completely unwilling to negotiate as apparently the landlord has no interest in a short extension.
Incredibly frustrating as it makes no difference to simply delay the move in date for new tenants by the 2 days we will pay them for additionally (viewings are ongoing so nobody has secured the apartment yet).
Do we have any cards to play here? Is there anything we can do to try and force the issue or is it simply a case of the landlord's decision being final?
We are in Dubai should it matter.
Thanks for any suggestions in advance.
Our new apartment will not be ready until 01st March.
We have tried to agree an extension of 2 days with the property management company (habtoor properties) but they want 7 days worth of rent for the 2 day extension and are completely unwilling to negotiate as apparently the landlord has no interest in a short extension.
Incredibly frustrating as it makes no difference to simply delay the move in date for new tenants by the 2 days we will pay them for additionally (viewings are ongoing so nobody has secured the apartment yet).
Do we have any cards to play here? Is there anything we can do to try and force the issue or is it simply a case of the landlord's decision being final?
We are in Dubai should it matter.
Thanks for any suggestions in advance.
You are attempting to apply your logic and perspective to a situation entirely outside your control. Landlord knows your position and knows he has you over a barrel. Short term extensions are unusual here - as is any "reasonable" behaviour by LLs beyond that contractually enforced. I'd say suck it up and be glad you got offered a 7 day (and not one month) extension. Use it to make your move more relaxed rather than having to get everything done on one day.
#3
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Joined: May 2008
Posts: 5,125
Re: Accommodation Problem
The lease for our current apartment expires on the 27th February.
Our new apartment will not be ready until 01st March.
We have tried to agree an extension of 2 days with the property management company (habtoor properties) but they want 7 days worth of rent for the 2 day extension and are completely unwilling to negotiate as apparently the landlord has no interest in a short extension.
Incredibly frustrating as it makes no difference to simply delay the move in date for new tenants by the 2 days we will pay them for additionally (viewings are ongoing so nobody has secured the apartment yet).
Do we have any cards to play here? Is there anything we can do to try and force the issue or is it simply a case of the landlord's decision being final?
We are in Dubai should it matter.
Thanks for any suggestions in advance.
Our new apartment will not be ready until 01st March.
We have tried to agree an extension of 2 days with the property management company (habtoor properties) but they want 7 days worth of rent for the 2 day extension and are completely unwilling to negotiate as apparently the landlord has no interest in a short extension.
Incredibly frustrating as it makes no difference to simply delay the move in date for new tenants by the 2 days we will pay them for additionally (viewings are ongoing so nobody has secured the apartment yet).
Do we have any cards to play here? Is there anything we can do to try and force the issue or is it simply a case of the landlord's decision being final?
We are in Dubai should it matter.
Thanks for any suggestions in advance.
#4
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Re: Accommodation Problem
This is just my view and I have no professional involvement with leasing.
You are attempting to apply your logic and perspective to a situation entirely outside your control. Landlord knows your position and knows he has you over a barrel. Short term extensions are unusual here - as is any "reasonable" behaviour by LLs beyond that contractually enforced. I'd say suck it up and be glad you got offered a 7 day (and not one month) extension. Use it to make your move more relaxed rather than having to get everything done on one day.
You are attempting to apply your logic and perspective to a situation entirely outside your control. Landlord knows your position and knows he has you over a barrel. Short term extensions are unusual here - as is any "reasonable" behaviour by LLs beyond that contractually enforced. I'd say suck it up and be glad you got offered a 7 day (and not one month) extension. Use it to make your move more relaxed rather than having to get everything done on one day.
landlords can and do what they want here
#5
Bothered
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Re: Accommodation Problem
This is just my view and I have no professional involvement with leasing.
You are attempting to apply your logic and perspective to a situation entirely outside your control. Landlord knows your position and knows he has you over a barrel. Short term extensions are unusual here - as is any "reasonable" behaviour by LLs beyond that contractually enforced. I'd say suck it up and be glad you got offered a 7 day (and not one month) extension. Use it to make your move more relaxed rather than having to get everything done on one day.
You are attempting to apply your logic and perspective to a situation entirely outside your control. Landlord knows your position and knows he has you over a barrel. Short term extensions are unusual here - as is any "reasonable" behaviour by LLs beyond that contractually enforced. I'd say suck it up and be glad you got offered a 7 day (and not one month) extension. Use it to make your move more relaxed rather than having to get everything done on one day.
They haven't offered a 7 day extension. As per my original post they have offered a 2 day extension for the price of 7 days rent. Hence my disgust with the landlord.
However, if as you say I have no grounds to fight this then it is indeed time to nut up and shut up.
Thanks.
#6
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Joined: Mar 2012
Location: Dubai, working at Dust World Central
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Re: Accommodation Problem
How much would it cost to pack your stuff and put it into storage. Then how much to move yourself into a hotel for a couple of days. I think you've probably got yourself a bargain!
#7
Bothered
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Re: Accommodation Problem
Doesnt make getting ripped off any easier to swallow however...!
#8
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Re: Accommodation Problem
They haven't offered a 7 day extension. As per my original post they have offered a 2 day extension for the price of 7 days rent. Hence my disgust with the landlord.
However, if as you say I have no grounds to fight this then it is indeed time to nut up and shut up.
Thanks.
However, if as you say I have no grounds to fight this then it is indeed time to nut up and shut up.
Thanks.
#9
Re: Accommodation Problem
They haven't offered a 7 day extension. As per my original post they have offered a 2 day extension for the price of 7 days rent. Hence my disgust with the landlord.
However, if as you say I have no grounds to fight this then it is indeed time to nut up and shut up.
Thanks.
However, if as you say I have no grounds to fight this then it is indeed time to nut up and shut up.
Thanks.
Plus DON'T hand over the keys until you get your deposit back..also... FYI... the LL cannot make you pay for repainting.
#10
Bothered
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Re: Accommodation Problem
Tell them you accept the extension and will pay for the 7 days but will move out on the 6th day. Throw in the "Rent committee" card and say that they told you that if your LL makes you pay for 7 days then he has to give you 7days.
Plus DON'T hand over the keys until you get your deposit back..also... FYI... the LL cannot make you pay for repainting.
Plus DON'T hand over the keys until you get your deposit back..also... FYI... the LL cannot make you pay for repainting.
#11
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Re: Accommodation Problem
Dangerous.
#13
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Re: Accommodation Problem
Absolutely. But won't have the capacity to think about a return argument.
Example:
LL: yanni, pay me 2,000 more per year...this is fair.
You: No, that's not fair.
LL: this is only small amount.
You: if it's only small, then you don't need it. End of discussion.
LL: *Brain explodes, can't argue*
Example:
LL: yanni, pay me 2,000 more per year...this is fair.
You: No, that's not fair.
LL: this is only small amount.
You: if it's only small, then you don't need it. End of discussion.
LL: *Brain explodes, can't argue*
#14
Bothered
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Re: Accommodation Problem
Absolutely. But won't have the capacity to think about a return argument.
Example:
LL: yanni, pay me 2,000 more per year...this is fair.
You: No, that's not fair.
LL: this is only small amount.
You: if it's only small, then you don't need it. End of discussion.
LL: *Brain explodes, can't argue*
Example:
LL: yanni, pay me 2,000 more per year...this is fair.
You: No, that's not fair.
LL: this is only small amount.
You: if it's only small, then you don't need it. End of discussion.
LL: *Brain explodes, can't argue*
Should really be decided on a trial by combat basis.
#15
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Re: Accommodation Problem
Sometimes just a little threat works.
I suggested that RERA would agree with me when he asked for a 7,500 increase for the renewal.
He said he'd move in himself.
I suggested RERA wouldn't let him do that.
He said he'd move his staff in
I suggested RERA wouldn't let him do that either.
He said he'd do XYZ
I suggested that we just get RERA involved to stop the nonsense.
He asked for 2,500 extra, I just agreed because it was less hassle and we were both happy