Reference request - Doha
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Reference request - Doha
Hi - is it normal practice for a company to tell you they are going to make you an offer but want all your reference details first ? as in managaers names - phone numbers and email addresses ?
Surely this is back to front - in the UK you secure a job - get the contract - then when signed and sealed they contact your referees - the individual probably woudnt want their manager knowing they were looking if they did not have a firm offer ?
I know I shoudnt compare UK to Doha - but is it just me or is this very strange to go about employing someone ?
If you can just let me know if this is usual practice........
Thanking you in advance.
Surely this is back to front - in the UK you secure a job - get the contract - then when signed and sealed they contact your referees - the individual probably woudnt want their manager knowing they were looking if they did not have a firm offer ?
I know I shoudnt compare UK to Doha - but is it just me or is this very strange to go about employing someone ?
If you can just let me know if this is usual practice........
Thanking you in advance.
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Re: Reference request - Doha
Hi - is it normal practice for a company to tell you they are going to make you an offer but want all your reference details first ? as in managaers names - phone numbers and email addresses ?
Surely this is back to front - in the UK you secure a job - get the contract - then when signed and sealed they contact your referees - the individual probably woudnt want their manager knowing they were looking if they did not have a firm offer ?
I know I shoudnt compare UK to Doha - but is it just me or is this very strange to go about employing someone ?
If you can just let me know if this is usual practice........
Thanking you in advance.
Surely this is back to front - in the UK you secure a job - get the contract - then when signed and sealed they contact your referees - the individual probably woudnt want their manager knowing they were looking if they did not have a firm offer ?
I know I shoudnt compare UK to Doha - but is it just me or is this very strange to go about employing someone ?
If you can just let me know if this is usual practice........
Thanking you in advance.
There's always a chance they might not even make the call at all , it's common practice here to say something and do the opposite .
Employers and HR departments have very strange ideas on doing buisiness here and i wouldn't worry too much or read too much into it.
Good luck !
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Re: Reference request - Doha
They might want to check you out first , bear in mind if it's your first overseas posting the company will be making an investment in you , there's a fairly high failure rate with expats so they might want to go over some of your details with your referees.
There's always a chance they might not even make the call at all , it's common practice here to say something and do the opposite .
Employers and HR departments have very strange ideas on doing buisiness here and i wouldn't worry too much or read too much into it.
Good luck !
There's always a chance they might not even make the call at all , it's common practice here to say something and do the opposite .
Employers and HR departments have very strange ideas on doing buisiness here and i wouldn't worry too much or read too much into it.
Good luck !
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I wouldn't be comfortable having my references checked unless I was already with a job offer in my hand.
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I agree. This would be what I would call standard practice. Get offer letter and then provide references. If they get any bad feedback when requesting feedback I'm sure they would just pull the offer anyway..
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Re: Reference request - Doha
each to there own, however both here and back in the UK, I've always taken up references prior to offering the position to someone. In-fact, it seems a bit pointless to me to take someone on-board before checking their background.
#8
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of course there are exceptions and i guess if you are going to invest heavily in getting the person on board (like paying relocation costs etc) or if it is a very senior position it could make sense...
if it happened to me i wouldn't necessarily have a problem with it, but i would only give them references from previous employers (ie not the current one)...
#9
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isn't the offer normally subject to references? You can always withdraw the offer...
#10
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I've never had a problem in providing references in advance of an offer, and if I was involved in the recruitment process myself, I'd want to check out a candidate before making them an offer. IMO
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I would expect to receive references before a candidate started, and I would expect to give them when in their position. Just not from the current employer. Anyway, most companies are going over to the totally non-committal: "Mr Smith was employed by us in the capacity of Senior Bogwasher from 01 Jan 2000 to 31 Dec 2010. Yours sincerely..."