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Old Apr 8th 2004 | 8:32 pm
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someone started a post on the other visa page I check that said visas have all but stopped for men ages 16-??? from Muslim countries. there is 100,000 + backlog of visas that all have to go straight to Washington DC to be checked for all these men.. Is this true?? has anyone else heard this?? When we called the consolate at Ankara they didnt tell us anything like this... Just the waiting period was around 4-6 months after we file there. Im just worried he wont be able to get it now at all or they just wont check his papers. We had started fiance visa back in oct.. Our 1st NOA was oct 22nd but Nebraska told us it would be 2 more months at least before they would look at our case there.. And the woman on the phone was so awful to me. She said I should take this time to find out as much as I can about him because the consolate in Ankara will do a very through background check, and she would want her daughter to know exactly what she was getting into. Our relationship is 2 years old!! I could not believe she was telling me these things, so anyway we have decided to go ahead with our plans to get married in Sept and just file directly with Ankara.. (Sorry.. just needed to vent a little) Any advice would be SO greatly appreciated!! Thank you.
 
Old Apr 9th 2004 | 12:14 am
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i haven't heard ANYTHING about this and i sure hope it isn't true - my fiance and i will be going through ankara to get his visa and there was another poster who's wife just recently got her visa from ankara and there process seemed to only take 1.5 months from the time they were approved at the service center in the US to getting the interview in ankara...that's all i can tell you other than it will probably take awhile to get through the Nebraska service center and then you have to go through NVC for the name check and then on to Ankara....what visa page was this that the information on them stopping visas to men age 16 and up from Muslim countries?
 
Old Apr 9th 2004 | 12:25 am
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This is partially true but nothing to worry about. My husband is from Pakistan. All males age 16 and up have to go through extra security checks in Washington that can delay your case as much as 6 months...but what is 6 months when you have already waited so long. We applied in AUgust and my husband just got his visa a few days ago. We had to wait a long time but visas have not stopped, they have just slowed a bit.

I hope this cheers you up a little.
 
Old Apr 9th 2004 | 7:23 am
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Originally posted by robert jcarlson
I would feel safer if they didn't allow the muslims in here. I think it is insanity to allow people who hate us to take advantage of us. They are laughing at how stupid we are every day.
I wish they wouldn't let trolls in here.

Oh well, guess I can sh*t in one hand and wish in the other just to see which one gets full first.
 
Old Apr 9th 2004 | 7:30 am
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Originally posted by Leslie66
I wish they wouldn't let trolls in here.

Oh well, guess I can sh*t in one hand and wish in the other just to see which one gets full first.
It's Friday, Les. The psychiatric hospital must have let the trolls go home to their computers for the weekend!

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Old Apr 9th 2004 | 7:34 am
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Originally posted by robert jcarlson
I would feel safer if they didn't allow the muslims in here. I think it is insanity to allow people who hate us to take advantage of us. They are laughing at how stupid we are every day.

I don't appreciate your attitude
 
Old Apr 9th 2004 | 7:36 am
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Originally posted by robert jcarlson
I would feel safer if they didn't allow the muslims in here. I think it is insanity to allow people who hate us to take advantage of us. They are laughing at how stupid we are every day.
I once was told that every German Shepard is a dog, but not every dog is a German Shepard.

Or in other words I rather have 10 Muslims in this country, then 1 shallow minded person
 
Old Apr 12th 2004 | 1:18 am
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what are you talking about letting "trolls" in here?! i was responding to someone's concerns about a visa because i'm in the same situation - maybe you should keep your comments to yourself - if you didn't like what we were talking about for some reason then don't read it - since when is talking about your loved one getting a visa "sh**"?!
 
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Originally posted by MMA2002
what are you talking about letting "trolls" in here?! i was responding to someone's concerns about a visa because i'm in the same situation - maybe you should keep your comments to yourself - if you didn't like what we were talking about for some reason then don't read it - since when is talking about your loved one getting a visa "sh**"?!
If you read in between the lines above the post, you would see that nobody was calling you a troll, but was responding to a post that was deleted by the moderator.
 
Old Apr 12th 2004 | 1:37 am
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i apologize - i didn't realize that posts were deleted
 
Old Apr 12th 2004 | 2:09 am
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Originally posted by MMA2002
i apologize - i didn't realize that posts were deleted

Yes, they can be deleted, modified, editied, moved, etc. It is a moderated forum. Moderators normally respond when a post is reported and/or the poster is using inflammatory language or subject material.

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Old Apr 12th 2004 | 5:25 am
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Please do not believe everything you see on the message boards.. From much experience and going through the same thing you are.. This is not correct - My fiancee's is muslim and everything happened in the time frame we were told.. Sometimes I think people read something that was an experience for someone else and they take that as the "Gospel"

God Willing, everything will work out for you.. keep you chin up and a smile on your face.

Originally posted by Mardi
someone started a post on the other visa page I check that said visas have all but stopped for men ages 16-??? from Muslim countries. there is 100,000 + backlog of visas that all have to go straight to Washington DC to be checked for all these men.. Is this true?? has anyone else heard this?? When we called the consolate at Ankara they didnt tell us anything like this... Just the waiting period was around 4-6 months after we file there. Im just worried he wont be able to get it now at all or they just wont check his papers. We had started fiance visa back in oct.. Our 1st NOA was oct 22nd but Nebraska told us it would be 2 more months at least before they would look at our case there.. And the woman on the phone was so awful to me. She said I should take this time to find out as much as I can about him because the consolate in Ankara will do a very through background check, and she would want her daughter to know exactly what she was getting into. Our relationship is 2 years old!! I could not believe she was telling me these things, so anyway we have decided to go ahead with our plans to get married in Sept and just file directly with Ankara.. (Sorry.. just needed to vent a little) Any advice would be SO greatly appreciated!! Thank you.
 
Old Apr 12th 2004 | 11:19 am
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I am going to blabber my mouth off here, just because I can understand where this woman who spoke to you is coming from. Those of you who know me, and know of what I speak, and those of you who have darling loving Muslim husbands, please do not be offended by what I am going to say. Nothing is stated in a broad sense, rather as a warning to just be absolutely certain of his feelings for you, and of yours for him.

Although you have known this man for 2 years, you don't really know him, nor can you be 100% certain of his intentions. Some men from Muslim countries such as Turkey, Egypt, Morocco etc. are willing to do near anything to get out of there. There is no employment there, no chance for bettering their life...and to find an American woman who is willing to bring him here, well, it is the best thing in the world to them. He finally has a chance at living a full life...a chance to send money home to his family...a chance to further his education...a chance for many, many things that he would have never been able to have back home.

The men whose intentions are not 100% honorable can still make you feel like you are the stars in his sky, the blood that pumps through his veins. Their charm and attentions are a divine thing, but just hope that this person will remain who he is now once he gets here, once you are married.
All I want to say to you is to be careful, be sure, and listen to your mind not only your heart. Know this man, know his family, try if you can to know him to the bone...however, even then you can't be sure that you know the real person deep inside.

Please, girls on here who know what I am saying, don't be offended by this. Most of the Muslim men who come are dear and kind and treat the women they love with absolute wonderfulness. They are good husbands and good providers.
I was on the other side of the coin, and things didn't turn out so well for me. I understand that he came here just to get out of Morocco. I understand too that he may have stayed with me forever had I been able to accept being controlled, accept that he wanted to change me into something I could never be, accept that an occasional slap or grab was alright. It was not acceptable.

I wish you the best, my friend, and as I have written, please don't take offense.......just be careful.

Peace,
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Old Apr 12th 2004 | 11:42 am
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There are gold diggers of all nationalities and sexes. Gee there are even Americans that marry to improve their social or financial status.

Caveat Emptor...

Originally posted by lulusmom
I am going to blabber my mouth off here, just because I can understand where this woman who spoke to you is coming from. Those of you who know me, and know of what I speak, and those of you who have darling loving Muslim husbands, please do not be offended by what I am going to say. Nothing is stated in a broad sense, rather as a warning to just be absolutely certain of his feelings for you, and of yours for him.

Although you have known this man for 2 years, you don't really know him, nor can you be 100% certain of his intentions. Some men from Muslim countries such as Turkey, Egypt, Morocco etc. are willing to do near anything to get out of there. There is no employment there, no chance for bettering their life...and to find an American woman who is willing to bring him here, well, it is the best thing in the world to them. He finally has a chance at living a full life...a chance to send money home to his family...a chance to further his education...a chance for many, many things that he would have never been able to have back home.

The men whose intentions are not 100% honorable can still make you feel like you are the stars in his sky, the blood that pumps through his veins. Their charm and attentions are a divine thing, but just hope that this person will remain who he is now once he gets here, once you are married.
All I want to say to you is to be careful, be sure, and listen to your mind not only your heart. Know this man, know his family, try if you can to know him to the bone...however, even then you can't be sure that you know the real person deep inside.

Please, girls on here who know what I am saying, don't be offended by this. Most of the Muslim men who come are dear and kind and treat the women they love with absolute wonderfulness. They are good husbands and good providers.
I was on the other side of the coin, and things didn't turn out so well for me. I understand that he came here just to get out of Morocco. I understand too that he may have stayed with me forever had I been able to accept being controlled, accept that he wanted to change me into something I could never be, accept that an occasional slap or grab was alright. It was not acceptable.

I wish you the best, my friend, and as I have written, please don't take offense.......just be careful.

Peace,
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Old Apr 13th 2004 | 2:18 am
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Kristine,

Please take this as it is meant. Mardi is a troll and she/it has already been banned.

Having said that........... You are absolutely right and I'm sure it feels good to get that off your chest. Your advice is excellent. You sticking around and sharing your story with the members of this NG is a positive thing that gives balance to our little immigration universe. The truth is, not all stories have happy endings.

I was also glad to hear the positive news you posted on the other thread.

Leslie


Originally posted by lulusmom
I am going to blabber my mouth off here, just because I can understand where this woman who spoke to you is coming from. Those of you who know me, and know of what I speak, and those of you who have darling loving Muslim husbands, please do not be offended by what I am going to say. Nothing is stated in a broad sense, rather as a warning to just be absolutely certain of his feelings for you, and of yours for him.

Although you have known this man for 2 years, you don't really know him, nor can you be 100% certain of his intentions. Some men from Muslim countries such as Turkey, Egypt, Morocco etc. are willing to do near anything to get out of there. There is no employment there, no chance for bettering their life...and to find an American woman who is willing to bring him here, well, it is the best thing in the world to them. He finally has a chance at living a full life...a chance to send money home to his family...a chance to further his education...a chance for many, many things that he would have never been able to have back home.

The men whose intentions are not 100% honorable can still make you feel like you are the stars in his sky, the blood that pumps through his veins. Their charm and attentions are a divine thing, but just hope that this person will remain who he is now once he gets here, once you are married.
All I want to say to you is to be careful, be sure, and listen to your mind not only your heart. Know this man, know his family, try if you can to know him to the bone...however, even then you can't be sure that you know the real person deep inside.

Please, girls on here who know what I am saying, don't be offended by this. Most of the Muslim men who come are dear and kind and treat the women they love with absolute wonderfulness. They are good husbands and good providers.
I was on the other side of the coin, and things didn't turn out so well for me. I understand that he came here just to get out of Morocco. I understand too that he may have stayed with me forever had I been able to accept being controlled, accept that he wanted to change me into something I could never be, accept that an occasional slap or grab was alright. It was not acceptable.

I wish you the best, my friend, and as I have written, please don't take offense.......just be careful.

Peace,
~k
 


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