When can he work? re: I-551
Jun 10th 2004, 1:49 pm
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When can he work? re: I-551
Hi Everyone...
My husband will hopefully be getting his I-551 stamp in a few weeks (!) and I'm wondering about his SS# and working...
On the DS-230 he has checked yes to the question about whether he wants a SS# assigned to him (thanks Michael D. Young!), so hopefully that will at least start the process.
My question is whether he can start working before he actually gets the SS#. Or, does he have to wait until he at least has a number, if not the card?
Thanks in advance...
Kim
My husband will hopefully be getting his I-551 stamp in a few weeks (!) and I'm wondering about his SS# and working...
On the DS-230 he has checked yes to the question about whether he wants a SS# assigned to him (thanks Michael D. Young!), so hopefully that will at least start the process.
My question is whether he can start working before he actually gets the SS#. Or, does he have to wait until he at least has a number, if not the card?
Thanks in advance...
Kim
Jun 10th 2004, 4:36 pm
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Re: When can he work? re: I-551
Originally posted by KimJ
My question is whether he can start working before he actually gets the SS#. Or, does he have to wait until he at least has a number, if not the card?
My question is whether he can start working before he actually gets the SS#. Or, does he have to wait until he at least has a number, if not the card?
Ian
Jun 10th 2004, 4:45 pm
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Re: When can he work? re: I-551
he has to have a number. He won't get paid without it.
Jun 10th 2004, 4:47 pm
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Re: When can he work? re: I-551
KimJ wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone...
>
> My husband will hopefully be getting his I-551 stamp in
> a few weeks (!) and I'm wondering about his SS# and working...
>
> On the
> DS-230 he has checked yes to the question about whether he wants a SS#
> assigned to him (thanks Michael D. Young!), so hopefully that will at
> least start the process.
I would like to know if he gets an SSN as a result of this. We noticed
that option on the form and decided to visit an actual SSA office to
apply for the number. We thought it was safer...
>
> Hi Everyone...
>
> My husband will hopefully be getting his I-551 stamp in
> a few weeks (!) and I'm wondering about his SS# and working...
>
> On the
> DS-230 he has checked yes to the question about whether he wants a SS#
> assigned to him (thanks Michael D. Young!), so hopefully that will at
> least start the process.
I would like to know if he gets an SSN as a result of this. We noticed
that option on the form and decided to visit an actual SSA office to
apply for the number. We thought it was safer...
Jun 10th 2004, 5:38 pm
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Re: When can he work? re: I-551
I'll be sure to post experiences with the whole process...
And we'll definitely follow up with the SS administration a week or two after he gets here...
And we'll definitely follow up with the SS administration a week or two after he gets here...
Jun 10th 2004, 9:38 pm
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Re: When can he work? re: I-551
the day after my husband entered the country and received his I-551 stamp, we went down to the local social security office and applied for a card.
about a week to two weeks later we got it in the mail.
about a week to two weeks later we got it in the mail.
Jun 10th 2004, 10:08 pm
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Re: When can he work? re: I-551
KimJ wrote:
> I'll be sure to post experiences with the whole process...
> And we'll
> definitely follow up with the SS administration a week or two after he
> gets here...
> --
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You need to give it three weeks. If the SSN card doesn't arrive within
three weeks or at least by the time he receives his I-551 card then he
needs to go into a Social Security office.
http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100202315
RM 00202.315 Enumeration At Entry
> I'll be sure to post experiences with the whole process...
> And we'll
> definitely follow up with the SS administration a week or two after he
> gets here...
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
You need to give it three weeks. If the SSN card doesn't arrive within
three weeks or at least by the time he receives his I-551 card then he
needs to go into a Social Security office.
http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100202315
RM 00202.315 Enumeration At Entry
Jun 10th 2004, 10:15 pm
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Re: When can he work? re: I-551
LucyMO wrote:
> he has to have a number. He won't get paid without it.
There is no requirement to have an SSN to be paid. Just need to show
the employer a receipt to show you have applied for an SSN. With EAE
not sure what you could use to show that you have applied.
http://www.ssa.gov/employer/hiring.htm
Employer Responsibilities When Hiring Foreign Workers
Note that the employee may work while the Social Security number
application is being processed.
What if the worker doesn't have a Social Security number when wage
reports (Forms W-2) are due to Social Security?
Paper Filers: If the worker applied for a card but didn't receive the
number in time for filing, enter "Applied For" in Box d. (Reference: IRS
Instructions for Forms W-2/W-3)
Magnetic Tape/Diskette or Electronic Filers: If the worker applied for a
card but didn't receive the number in time for filing, enter all zeros
in the field for the Social Security number. (Reference: SSA's Magnetic
Media Reporting and Electronic Filing Format)
Remember to ask the worker to tell you the number and the exact name
printed on the card, when he or she receives it.
My foreign worker received his or her Social Security number after I
filed my wage report. What do I do?
When you receive the worker's Social Security number, file Form W-2c
(Corrected Wage and Tax Statement), to show the worker's number. Click
here for instructions on filing W-2c's.
Reference: 26 CFR 31.6011
Sec. 31.6011(b)-2 Employees' account numbers.
> he has to have a number. He won't get paid without it.
There is no requirement to have an SSN to be paid. Just need to show
the employer a receipt to show you have applied for an SSN. With EAE
not sure what you could use to show that you have applied.
http://www.ssa.gov/employer/hiring.htm
Employer Responsibilities When Hiring Foreign Workers
Note that the employee may work while the Social Security number
application is being processed.
What if the worker doesn't have a Social Security number when wage
reports (Forms W-2) are due to Social Security?
Paper Filers: If the worker applied for a card but didn't receive the
number in time for filing, enter "Applied For" in Box d. (Reference: IRS
Instructions for Forms W-2/W-3)
Magnetic Tape/Diskette or Electronic Filers: If the worker applied for a
card but didn't receive the number in time for filing, enter all zeros
in the field for the Social Security number. (Reference: SSA's Magnetic
Media Reporting and Electronic Filing Format)
Remember to ask the worker to tell you the number and the exact name
printed on the card, when he or she receives it.
My foreign worker received his or her Social Security number after I
filed my wage report. What do I do?
When you receive the worker's Social Security number, file Form W-2c
(Corrected Wage and Tax Statement), to show the worker's number. Click
here for instructions on filing W-2c's.
Reference: 26 CFR 31.6011
Sec. 31.6011(b)-2 Employees' account numbers.
Jun 10th 2004, 10:42 pm
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Re: When can he work? re: I-551
Originally posted by Michael D. Young
LucyMO wrote:
> he has to have a number. He won't get paid without it.
There is no requirement to have an SSN to be paid. Just need to show
the employer a receipt to show you have applied for an SSN. With EAE
not sure what you could use to show that you have applied.
http://www.ssa.gov/employer/hiring.htm
Employer Responsibilities When Hiring Foreign Workers
Note that the employee may work while the Social Security number
application is being processed.
What if the worker doesn't have a Social Security number when wage
reports (Forms W-2) are due to Social Security?
Paper Filers: If the worker applied for a card but didn't receive the
number in time for filing, enter "Applied For" in Box d. (Reference: IRS
Instructions for Forms W-2/W-3)
Magnetic Tape/Diskette or Electronic Filers: If the worker applied for a
card but didn't receive the number in time for filing, enter all zeros
in the field for the Social Security number. (Reference: SSA's Magnetic
Media Reporting and Electronic Filing Format)
Remember to ask the worker to tell you the number and the exact name
printed on the card, when he or she receives it.
My foreign worker received his or her Social Security number after I
filed my wage report. What do I do?
When you receive the worker's Social Security number, file Form W-2c
(Corrected Wage and Tax Statement), to show the worker's number. Click
here for instructions on filing W-2c's.
Reference: 26 CFR 31.6011
Sec. 31.6011(b)-2 Employees' account numbers.
LucyMO wrote:
> he has to have a number. He won't get paid without it.
There is no requirement to have an SSN to be paid. Just need to show
the employer a receipt to show you have applied for an SSN. With EAE
not sure what you could use to show that you have applied.
http://www.ssa.gov/employer/hiring.htm
Employer Responsibilities When Hiring Foreign Workers
Note that the employee may work while the Social Security number
application is being processed.
What if the worker doesn't have a Social Security number when wage
reports (Forms W-2) are due to Social Security?
Paper Filers: If the worker applied for a card but didn't receive the
number in time for filing, enter "Applied For" in Box d. (Reference: IRS
Instructions for Forms W-2/W-3)
Magnetic Tape/Diskette or Electronic Filers: If the worker applied for a
card but didn't receive the number in time for filing, enter all zeros
in the field for the Social Security number. (Reference: SSA's Magnetic
Media Reporting and Electronic Filing Format)
Remember to ask the worker to tell you the number and the exact name
printed on the card, when he or she receives it.
My foreign worker received his or her Social Security number after I
filed my wage report. What do I do?
When you receive the worker's Social Security number, file Form W-2c
(Corrected Wage and Tax Statement), to show the worker's number. Click
here for instructions on filing W-2c's.
Reference: 26 CFR 31.6011
Sec. 31.6011(b)-2 Employees' account numbers.
Jun 13th 2004, 10:10 pm
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Re: When can he work? re: I-551
"KimJ" wrote:
> On the
> DS-230 he has checked yes to the question about whether he wants a SS#
> assigned to him (thanks Michael D. Young!), so hopefully that will at
> least start the process.
> My question is whether he can start working
> before he actually gets the SS#. Or, does he have to wait until he at
> least has a number, if not the card?
Can someone give me an idiot's digest of what this is about?
I've only recently completed and returned my DS-230 - along with the othe
Packet 3 forms - to the US Embassy in London. I'm sure I would have noticed
if there was an option to request a SS#.
Please tell me I've not missed a trick. This is the first time I've heard
of this in the 18 months I've been reading here.
Andy
> On the
> DS-230 he has checked yes to the question about whether he wants a SS#
> assigned to him (thanks Michael D. Young!), so hopefully that will at
> least start the process.
> My question is whether he can start working
> before he actually gets the SS#. Or, does he have to wait until he at
> least has a number, if not the card?
Can someone give me an idiot's digest of what this is about?
I've only recently completed and returned my DS-230 - along with the othe
Packet 3 forms - to the US Embassy in London. I'm sure I would have noticed
if there was an option to request a SS#.
Please tell me I've not missed a trick. This is the first time I've heard
of this in the 18 months I've been reading here.
Andy
Jun 14th 2004, 1:06 am
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Re: When can he work? re: I-551
Exile wrote:
> "KimJ" wrote:
> >
> > On the
> > DS-230 he has checked yes to the question about whether he wants a SS#
> > assigned to him (thanks Michael D. Young!), so hopefully that will at
> > least start the process.
> >
> > My question is whether he can start working
> > before he actually gets the SS#. Or, does he have to wait until he at
> > least has a number, if not the card?
> Can someone give me an idiot's digest of what this is about?
> I've only recently completed and returned my DS-230 - along with the othe
> Packet 3 forms - to the US Embassy in London. I'm sure I would have noticed
> if there was an option to request a SS#.
> Please tell me I've not missed a trick. This is the first time I've heard
> of this in the 18 months I've been reading here.
> Andy
Depends on the type of visa you were issued. Enumeration At Entry (EAE) only
applies to people age 18 or older that have applied for and entered the U.S.
with a immigrant visa. All the K visas are nonimmigrant visas.
http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100202315
RM 00202.315 Enumeration At Entry
> "KimJ" wrote:
> >
> > On the
> > DS-230 he has checked yes to the question about whether he wants a SS#
> > assigned to him (thanks Michael D. Young!), so hopefully that will at
> > least start the process.
> >
> > My question is whether he can start working
> > before he actually gets the SS#. Or, does he have to wait until he at
> > least has a number, if not the card?
> Can someone give me an idiot's digest of what this is about?
> I've only recently completed and returned my DS-230 - along with the othe
> Packet 3 forms - to the US Embassy in London. I'm sure I would have noticed
> if there was an option to request a SS#.
> Please tell me I've not missed a trick. This is the first time I've heard
> of this in the 18 months I've been reading here.
> Andy
Depends on the type of visa you were issued. Enumeration At Entry (EAE) only
applies to people age 18 or older that have applied for and entered the U.S.
with a immigrant visa. All the K visas are nonimmigrant visas.
http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100202315
RM 00202.315 Enumeration At Entry
Jun 14th 2004, 5:23 pm
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Re: When can he work? re: I-551
"Michael D. Young" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Depends on the type of visa you were issued. Enumeration At Entry (EAE)
only
> applies to people age 18 or older that have applied for and entered the
U.S.
> with a immigrant visa. All the K visas are nonimmigrant visas.
Many thanks for the clarification.
I assume then that the others in this thread were discussing a K3 or
something other than a K1.
Regards,
Andy
> Depends on the type of visa you were issued. Enumeration At Entry (EAE)
only
> applies to people age 18 or older that have applied for and entered the
U.S.
> with a immigrant visa. All the K visas are nonimmigrant visas.
Many thanks for the clarification.
I assume then that the others in this thread were discussing a K3 or
something other than a K1.
Regards,
Andy
