what does sponsorship mean???
Oct 6th 2003, 12:37 pm
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what does sponsorship mean???
I am planning on marrying my spanish fiance in the near future.
however, I understand that he needs a sponsor in order to live in the
US.
I had been living abroad for the last 3 years (made more than $15000,
but did not have to file US taxes as I was living in Spain).
Can I sponsor him? and use my spanish taxes? or the last 3 taxes
filed in the US?
Do I need a co-sponsor? what does that mean exactly? my parents are
nervous about being financially responsible for someone for 10
years--even if we divorce (which is what I understand)
thanks for you help!
jen
however, I understand that he needs a sponsor in order to live in the
US.
I had been living abroad for the last 3 years (made more than $15000,
but did not have to file US taxes as I was living in Spain).
Can I sponsor him? and use my spanish taxes? or the last 3 taxes
filed in the US?
Do I need a co-sponsor? what does that mean exactly? my parents are
nervous about being financially responsible for someone for 10
years--even if we divorce (which is what I understand)
thanks for you help!
jen
Oct 6th 2003, 1:22 pm
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Re: what does sponsorship mean???
"j" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I am planning on marrying my spanish fiance in the near future.
> however, I understand that he needs a sponsor in order to live in the
> US.
> I had been living abroad for the last 3 years (made more than $15000,
> but did not have to file US taxes as I was living in Spain).
Wrong. US citizens must always file a tax return if they make above the
minimums based on their *worldwide* income. Normally this won't incur any US
taxes because of large deductions and dual-tax issues but the tax return
must be made.
> Can I sponsor him? and use my spanish taxes? or the last 3 taxes
> filed in the US?
File tax returns for the last three years. Note that you have to sponsor him
regardless of your income; the question is more whether you need
co-sponsors.
> Do I need a co-sponsor? what does that mean exactly? my parents are
> nervous about being financially responsible for someone for 10
> years--even if we divorce (which is what I understand)
Well, they wouldn't really be financially responsible for him. They wouldn't
be responsible for debt, etc.
Andy.
--
I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
news:[email protected]...
> I am planning on marrying my spanish fiance in the near future.
> however, I understand that he needs a sponsor in order to live in the
> US.
> I had been living abroad for the last 3 years (made more than $15000,
> but did not have to file US taxes as I was living in Spain).
Wrong. US citizens must always file a tax return if they make above the
minimums based on their *worldwide* income. Normally this won't incur any US
taxes because of large deductions and dual-tax issues but the tax return
must be made.
> Can I sponsor him? and use my spanish taxes? or the last 3 taxes
> filed in the US?
File tax returns for the last three years. Note that you have to sponsor him
regardless of your income; the question is more whether you need
co-sponsors.
> Do I need a co-sponsor? what does that mean exactly? my parents are
> nervous about being financially responsible for someone for 10
> years--even if we divorce (which is what I understand)
Well, they wouldn't really be financially responsible for him. They wouldn't
be responsible for debt, etc.
Andy.
--
I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
Oct 6th 2003, 2:35 pm
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Re: what does sponsorship mean???
Originally posted by J
I am planning on marrying my spanish fiance in the near future.
however, I understand that he needs a sponsor in order to live in the
US.
I had been living abroad for the last 3 years (made more than $15000,
but did not have to file US taxes as I was living in Spain).
Can I sponsor him? and use my spanish taxes? or the last 3 taxes
filed in the US?
Do I need a co-sponsor? what does that mean exactly? my parents are
nervous about being financially responsible for someone for 10
years--even if we divorce (which is what I understand)
thanks for you help!
jen
I am planning on marrying my spanish fiance in the near future.
however, I understand that he needs a sponsor in order to live in the
US.
I had been living abroad for the last 3 years (made more than $15000,
but did not have to file US taxes as I was living in Spain).
Can I sponsor him? and use my spanish taxes? or the last 3 taxes
filed in the US?
Do I need a co-sponsor? what does that mean exactly? my parents are
nervous about being financially responsible for someone for 10
years--even if we divorce (which is what I understand)
thanks for you help!
jen
You don't give YOUR status. By your statement that you did not have to file US returns, you are implying that you are not a US citizen nor do you have a green card. If yo did have a green card, you abandoned it by failure to file the returns.
If YOU are immigrating and you get married before you enter the US on the immigrant visa, he can obtain a "Following To Join" visa and immigrate.
Oct 6th 2003, 2:45 pm
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Re: what does sponsorship mean???
Folinskyinla:
Can you elaborte on one point there. If I PR leaves the US and does not file tax returns, they have automatically abandoned their Green Card? Does this rule supersede abandonment by time spent out of the US? Thanks
Can you elaborte on one point there. If I PR leaves the US and does not file tax returns, they have automatically abandoned their Green Card? Does this rule supersede abandonment by time spent out of the US? Thanks
Originally posted by Folinskyinla
Hi Jen:
You don't give YOUR status. By your statement that you did not have to file US returns, you are implying that you are not a US citizen nor do you have a green card. If yo did have a green card, you abandoned it by failure to file the returns.
If YOU are immigrating and you get married before you enter the US on the immigrant visa, he can obtain a "Following To Join" visa and immigrate.
Hi Jen:
You don't give YOUR status. By your statement that you did not have to file US returns, you are implying that you are not a US citizen nor do you have a green card. If yo did have a green card, you abandoned it by failure to file the returns.
If YOU are immigrating and you get married before you enter the US on the immigrant visa, he can obtain a "Following To Join" visa and immigrate.
Oct 6th 2003, 2:50 pm
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Re: what does sponsorship mean???
Originally posted by DCMark
Folinskyinla:
Can you elaborte on one point there. If I PR leaves the US and does not file tax returns, they have automatically abandoned their Green Card? Does this rule supersede abandonment by time spent out of the US? Thanks
Folinskyinla:
Can you elaborte on one point there. If I PR leaves the US and does not file tax returns, they have automatically abandoned their Green Card? Does this rule supersede abandonment by time spent out of the US? Thanks
Abandonment is complicated subject -- and time is BUT ONE factor. I've gotten clients back to the US after SIX YEARS out and had a finding of abandonment after a TWO DAY absence.
So there is nothing to "supercede".
That said, working abroad and NOT reporting that income on a US tax return is strong indicia of abandonment.
Oct 6th 2003, 3:10 pm
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Re: what does sponsorship mean???
Thank you for your answer. I know abandonment is a complicated issue.
Originally posted by Folinskyinla
Hi:
Abandonment is complicated subject -- and time is BUT ONE factor. I've gotten clients back to the US after SIX YEARS out and had a finding of abandonment after a TWO DAY absence.
So there is nothing to "supercede".
That said, working abroad and NOT reporting that income on a US tax return is strong indicia of abandonment.
Hi:
Abandonment is complicated subject -- and time is BUT ONE factor. I've gotten clients back to the US after SIX YEARS out and had a finding of abandonment after a TWO DAY absence.
So there is nothing to "supercede".
That said, working abroad and NOT reporting that income on a US tax return is strong indicia of abandonment.
Oct 6th 2003, 6:06 pm
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Re: what does sponsorship mean???
Folinskyinla <member@british_expats.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Originally posted by J
>
> > I am planning on marrying my spanish fiance in the near future.
>
> > however, I understand that he needs a sponsor in order to live in the
>
> > US.
>
> >
>
> > I had been living abroad for the last 3 years (made more than $15000,
>
> > but did not have to file US taxes as I was living in Spain).
>
> >
>
> > Can I sponsor him? and use my spanish taxes? or the last 3 taxes
>
> > filed in the US?
>
> >
>
> > Do I need a co-sponsor? what does that mean exactly? my parents are
>
> > nervous about being financially responsible for someone for 10
>
> > years--even if we divorce (which is what I understand)
>
> >
>
> > thanks for you help!
>
> > jen
>
>
>
> Hi Jen:
>
>
>
> You don't give YOUR status. By your statement that you did not have to
> file US returns, you are implying that you are not a US citizen nor do
> you have a green card. If yo did have a green card, you abandoned it by
> failure to file the returns.
>
>
>
> If YOU are immigrating and you get married before you enter the US on
> the immigrant visa, he can obtain a "Following To Join" visa and
> immigrate.
Sorry if I was unclear.
I am a US citizen--born in the US.
I spent the past 3 years abroad working for a Spanish
company--sponsored by them. I no longer have Spanish residency, as
the company folded and I was unable to renew my residency before it
expired (and i have been in the US for a year now)
I did file returns, but did not have to pay any taxes. on the section
the referred to salary, I believe that I completed it correctly--it
said that I did not have to declare my spanish salary on the forms as
it was less than $60,000 or $80,000, etc (I don't remember exactly).
I did pay taxes in Spain.
Last year, I did make some money in the US (but very little --
probably less than $2000).
THanks,
jen
> Originally posted by J
>
> > I am planning on marrying my spanish fiance in the near future.
>
> > however, I understand that he needs a sponsor in order to live in the
>
> > US.
>
> >
>
> > I had been living abroad for the last 3 years (made more than $15000,
>
> > but did not have to file US taxes as I was living in Spain).
>
> >
>
> > Can I sponsor him? and use my spanish taxes? or the last 3 taxes
>
> > filed in the US?
>
> >
>
> > Do I need a co-sponsor? what does that mean exactly? my parents are
>
> > nervous about being financially responsible for someone for 10
>
> > years--even if we divorce (which is what I understand)
>
> >
>
> > thanks for you help!
>
> > jen
>
>
>
> Hi Jen:
>
>
>
> You don't give YOUR status. By your statement that you did not have to
> file US returns, you are implying that you are not a US citizen nor do
> you have a green card. If yo did have a green card, you abandoned it by
> failure to file the returns.
>
>
>
> If YOU are immigrating and you get married before you enter the US on
> the immigrant visa, he can obtain a "Following To Join" visa and
> immigrate.
Sorry if I was unclear.
I am a US citizen--born in the US.
I spent the past 3 years abroad working for a Spanish
company--sponsored by them. I no longer have Spanish residency, as
the company folded and I was unable to renew my residency before it
expired (and i have been in the US for a year now)
I did file returns, but did not have to pay any taxes. on the section
the referred to salary, I believe that I completed it correctly--it
said that I did not have to declare my spanish salary on the forms as
it was less than $60,000 or $80,000, etc (I don't remember exactly).
I did pay taxes in Spain.
Last year, I did make some money in the US (but very little --
probably less than $2000).
THanks,
jen
Oct 6th 2003, 10:09 pm
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Re: what does sponsorship mean???
I'm not sure if this went through correctly the first time:
Sorry if I was unclear.
I am a US citizen--born in the US.
I spent the past 3 years abroad working for a Spanish
company--sponsored by them. I no longer have Spanish residency, as
the company folded and I was unable to renew my residency before it
expired (and i have been in the US for a year now)
I did file returns, but did not have to pay any taxes. on the section
the referred to salary, I believe that I completed it correctly--it
said that I did not have to declare my spanish salary on the forms as
it was less than $60,000 or $80,000, etc (I don't remember exactly).
I did pay taxes in Spain.
Last year, I did make some money in the US (but very little --
probably less than $2000).
THanks,
jen
Sorry if I was unclear.
I am a US citizen--born in the US.
I spent the past 3 years abroad working for a Spanish
company--sponsored by them. I no longer have Spanish residency, as
the company folded and I was unable to renew my residency before it
expired (and i have been in the US for a year now)
I did file returns, but did not have to pay any taxes. on the section
the referred to salary, I believe that I completed it correctly--it
said that I did not have to declare my spanish salary on the forms as
it was less than $60,000 or $80,000, etc (I don't remember exactly).
I did pay taxes in Spain.
Last year, I did make some money in the US (but very little --
probably less than $2000).
THanks,
jen
Oct 6th 2003, 10:41 pm
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Re: what does sponsorship mean???
Originally posted by J
I'm not sure if this went through correctly the first time:
Sorry if I was unclear.
I am a US citizen--born in the US.
I spent the past 3 years abroad working for a Spanish
company--sponsored by them. I no longer have Spanish residency, as
the company folded and I was unable to renew my residency before it
expired (and i have been in the US for a year now)
I did file returns, but did not have to pay any taxes. on the section
the referred to salary, I believe that I completed it correctly--it
said that I did not have to declare my spanish salary on the forms as
it was less than $60,000 or $80,000, etc (I don't remember exactly).
I did pay taxes in Spain.
Last year, I did make some money in the US (but very little --
probably less than $2000).
THanks,
jen
I'm not sure if this went through correctly the first time:
Sorry if I was unclear.
I am a US citizen--born in the US.
I spent the past 3 years abroad working for a Spanish
company--sponsored by them. I no longer have Spanish residency, as
the company folded and I was unable to renew my residency before it
expired (and i have been in the US for a year now)
I did file returns, but did not have to pay any taxes. on the section
the referred to salary, I believe that I completed it correctly--it
said that I did not have to declare my spanish salary on the forms as
it was less than $60,000 or $80,000, etc (I don't remember exactly).
I did pay taxes in Spain.
Last year, I did make some money in the US (but very little --
probably less than $2000).
THanks,
jen
Hi:
OK, you DID file tax returns. A rule of thumb on a common misconception -- the three years of tax returns requirement and the 125% salary requirement are two DIFFERENT things. If you have three years of tax returns with insufficient income but you currently have a job which does meet the requirments, then you are OK.
Oct 7th 2003, 12:59 am
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I am not sure where this "10 year" rule comes in.....when I filled out
the Affadavit of Support forms, it mentioned that they wanted to be sure
Ken would not be "a public charge for 3 years"---anyone care to discuss
what the Public Charge Law is in relation to immigration?
I make way more than the standard 125% so that won't be an issue with
us, but it sounds interesting to hear about.
the Affadavit of Support forms, it mentioned that they wanted to be sure
Ken would not be "a public charge for 3 years"---anyone care to discuss
what the Public Charge Law is in relation to immigration?
I make way more than the standard 125% so that won't be an issue with
us, but it sounds interesting to hear about.
Oct 8th 2003, 1:07 pm
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[email protected] (maryanne kehoe) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I am not sure where this "10 year" rule comes in.....when I filled out
> the Affadavit of Support forms, it mentioned that they wanted to be sure
> Ken would not be "a public charge for 3 years"---anyone care to discuss
> what the Public Charge Law is in relation to immigration?
>
> I make way more than the standard 125% so that won't be an issue with
> us, but it sounds interesting to hear about.
I was told that the sponsor is responsible for any government $$ that
my future husband may receive for 10 years (40 work quarters). My
understanding is that these are things like welfare, food stamps, etc.
I can't imagine that this would be an issue, but I hate to ask my
parents to co-sponsor someone that they do not know very well if they
would be responsible for him for so long.
jen
> I am not sure where this "10 year" rule comes in.....when I filled out
> the Affadavit of Support forms, it mentioned that they wanted to be sure
> Ken would not be "a public charge for 3 years"---anyone care to discuss
> what the Public Charge Law is in relation to immigration?
>
> I make way more than the standard 125% so that won't be an issue with
> us, but it sounds interesting to hear about.
I was told that the sponsor is responsible for any government $$ that
my future husband may receive for 10 years (40 work quarters). My
understanding is that these are things like welfare, food stamps, etc.
I can't imagine that this would be an issue, but I hate to ask my
parents to co-sponsor someone that they do not know very well if they
would be responsible for him for so long.
jen
Oct 8th 2003, 1:18 pm
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"j" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> [email protected] (maryanne kehoe) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > I am not sure where this "10 year" rule comes in.....when I filled out
> > the Affadavit of Support forms, it mentioned that they wanted to be sure
> > Ken would not be "a public charge for 3 years"---anyone care to discuss
> > what the Public Charge Law is in relation to immigration?
> >
> > I make way more than the standard 125% so that won't be an issue with
> > us, but it sounds interesting to hear about.
> I was told that the sponsor is responsible for any government $$ that
> my future husband may receive for 10 years (40 work quarters). My
> understanding is that these are things like welfare, food stamps, etc.
> I can't imagine that this would be an issue, but I hate to ask my
> parents to co-sponsor someone that they do not know very well if they
> would be responsible for him for so long.
Assuming that you don't meet the requirements on your own (and remember that
you can use assets to make up differences in income if you have them; your
husband may also be able to use his income to qualify but that would require
him to be able to demonstrate it will continue in the US on top of other
eligibility requirements) then you will need a co-sponsor. So, to a certain
extent, you don't have much choice. You either ask your parents or you stay
in Spain.
Furthermore, your parents would only be jointly responsible. If the
situation did ever arise where he got a means-tested benefit that wasn't
allowed, you would be really responsible for it.
Lastly, 40 quarters is the longest time period. If he got US citizenship
that would also negate the affidavit and he would be eligible for that 3
years after entering the US on an immigrant visa. (There are other things
that would negate it too).
Andy.
--
I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
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> [email protected] (maryanne kehoe) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > I am not sure where this "10 year" rule comes in.....when I filled out
> > the Affadavit of Support forms, it mentioned that they wanted to be sure
> > Ken would not be "a public charge for 3 years"---anyone care to discuss
> > what the Public Charge Law is in relation to immigration?
> >
> > I make way more than the standard 125% so that won't be an issue with
> > us, but it sounds interesting to hear about.
> I was told that the sponsor is responsible for any government $$ that
> my future husband may receive for 10 years (40 work quarters). My
> understanding is that these are things like welfare, food stamps, etc.
> I can't imagine that this would be an issue, but I hate to ask my
> parents to co-sponsor someone that they do not know very well if they
> would be responsible for him for so long.
Assuming that you don't meet the requirements on your own (and remember that
you can use assets to make up differences in income if you have them; your
husband may also be able to use his income to qualify but that would require
him to be able to demonstrate it will continue in the US on top of other
eligibility requirements) then you will need a co-sponsor. So, to a certain
extent, you don't have much choice. You either ask your parents or you stay
in Spain.
Furthermore, your parents would only be jointly responsible. If the
situation did ever arise where he got a means-tested benefit that wasn't
allowed, you would be really responsible for it.
Lastly, 40 quarters is the longest time period. If he got US citizenship
that would also negate the affidavit and he would be eligible for that 3
years after entering the US on an immigrant visa. (There are other things
that would negate it too).
Andy.
--
I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
Oct 9th 2003, 1:11 am
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Re: what does sponsorship mean???
>From: [email protected] (j)
>[email protected] (maryanne kehoe) wrote in >message
>news:<11322-3F820FE4-178@storefull-2318.>public.lawson.webtv.net>...
>I am not sure where this "10 year" rule comes >in.....when I filled out
the Affadavit of Support >forms, it mentioned that they wanted to be
>sure Ken would not be "a public charge for 3 >years"---anyone care to
discuss what the >Public Charge Law is in relation to >immigration?
>I make way more than the standard 125% so >that won't be an issue with
us, but it sounds >nteresting to hear about.
>I was told that the sponsor is responsible for >any government $$ that
my future husband >may receive for 10 years (40 work quarters). >My
understanding is that these are things like >welfare, food stamps, etc.
>=A0=A0I can't imagine that this would be an issue, >but I hate to ask
my parents to co-sponsor >someone that they do not know very well if
>they would be responsible for him for so long. >jen
jen, would this include unemployment compensation too?
Maryanne----the things you learn that BCIS site doesn't tell you!
>[email protected] (maryanne kehoe) wrote in >message
>news:<11322-3F820FE4-178@storefull-2318.>public.lawson.webtv.net>...
>I am not sure where this "10 year" rule comes >in.....when I filled out
the Affadavit of Support >forms, it mentioned that they wanted to be
>sure Ken would not be "a public charge for 3 >years"---anyone care to
discuss what the >Public Charge Law is in relation to >immigration?
>I make way more than the standard 125% so >that won't be an issue with
us, but it sounds >nteresting to hear about.
>I was told that the sponsor is responsible for >any government $$ that
my future husband >may receive for 10 years (40 work quarters). >My
understanding is that these are things like >welfare, food stamps, etc.
>=A0=A0I can't imagine that this would be an issue, >but I hate to ask
my parents to co-sponsor >someone that they do not know very well if
>they would be responsible for him for so long. >jen
jen, would this include unemployment compensation too?
Maryanne----the things you learn that BCIS site doesn't tell you!
Oct 9th 2003, 2:45 am
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maryanne kehoe wrote:
> jen, would this include unemployment compensation too?
No, unemployments are not needs based. Unemployment benefits are paid
based on employer contributions. So, it is considered like insurance
> jen, would this include unemployment compensation too?
No, unemployments are not needs based. Unemployment benefits are paid
based on employer contributions. So, it is considered like insurance
