Bob

Maybe you should be blaming people that are trying to get visa's on false information etc, who when get them come over, and years down the line sponsor entire family over, situations like that that are making it harder for everyone else.

Marlowe66

lele: think my post crossed paths with yours. Read your first post as mean. I see now you're just frustrated. I really sympathize. I've got no idea why the process has to be so screwed up - and am as pissed off as you are. Good luck in managing it!

Nora

Ray

I just have to say, sad as your story is.. The system has been this way for a long time before you got involved in it.. and will still be the same long after you are done ...
your repitious story of how hard done by you are.. is getting boring ... We know your problems ..you are not the first here with that problem. and no doubt not the last.. but please !! there is nothing we can do about it ..
we will cheer on your sucesses and commiserate with your bad days...Just please do not go on and on ..with the same thing..

Now give me a ciggie...

1Duckie

I hope the surprise is not on you.

I cannot tell you wheter or not you will be allowed in. I can only wish you luck and tell you it is up to the POE. A return ticket is not necessarily proof to them that you will be returning.

Being allowed in may different from person to person, such as, how many times this year you have already been allowed in on a visitor visa, the length of time you last visited.

The K1 process is clear indication your intent is evental immigration so if the POE does have you on file (their radar screen) they may not allow you in, otherwise as someone else stated, why would anyone want to go through the K1 process at all.

If they do not let you in, you can guarantee that they will place you in a cell until the next fight home and use your return ticket. You may also be asked about your entry attempt at your K1 interview.

You are taking a big risk, I suggest that you call USCIS for information and not take the word of a few people that managed to slip through the process undetected. And before anyone responds to this comment, I am not suggesting any illegal intent on the parties that did manage to come for a visit.. and I am making myself clear that only the POE can approve the entry even if you speak with the USCIS helpdesk and they tell you it will be ok, it is still up to the POE.

Good Luck, will be waiting to know if you made it passed POE, so please post your experience.

Darth Homer

I visited my fiancee around three weeks before my K1 visa was issued. I had no problems either at the POE or later at my interview. I brought plenty of evidence of my intent to return but was not asked for any of it. If your intentions are genuine, there is no reason not to visit the U.S. while the visa process is underway.

evoal2003

I did it twice coll, go see her you will be fine. Is his intent not to do it the legal way????????

alan

evoal2003

You just somehow manage to find the right words at the right time.

No smoking Ray, you are stronger. ( for me ) 8 months on the 15th it gets easier, slightly, but easier.

alan

lele

I am sorry that your husband's father died. That is terrible. I hope that he and you and other family members are alright.

I am really sad to hear this and if there is anything I can do to help, please do not hesitate to ask...

As for the process, I welcome constructive help and will support it.

However, when people *deny* the *facts* that the consulate in China, in addition to a few other nations, causes US citizens and their spouses or fiancees to face enormous added burdens, added hoops, VOs who often refuse to even look at evidence brought, and a host of other issues, and that my current timeline is faster than the average for the last 2 years worth of people (only about a 7.0 month wait due to GUZ), then I consider it a personal attack.

If you have any suggestions about how we can find a way to be present for our interviews, as compared to being denied entry to the consulate, so that way we will not be forced to have our papers ignored and then asked to make a 5 minute long video tape in VHS format of us talking Chinese together while simultaneously writing the characters of what we are saying, then I would be most grateful for the advice! If you know of any way that we could get the people at the consulate to give us a similar turn-over time as those of people wanting to adopt (they only need a 2-week turnover time, but the K1's take about 8 months, and the CR and IR take longer), then that would be fantastic! If you knew of a way that we could actually just send a phone call to the consulate, which would reach a human voice who would not immediately hang up on us, I would love to hear it. If you knew of a direct email address, which would be answered by an actual VO in grammatically correct English, I would be very thankful too.

However, baring this, at least people who would be willing to acknowledge that the system is not far, and it it is biased against people from certain countries, would be a start.

I wish you well with your situation.

lele

Ray,

Your words are wise!

If at least we can all laugh and smile, we will not be so depressed.

I finally got around to writing some fun stuff and really helping out the people at work today. Soon, I may even get the time to help people here to smile some more.

And if anyone here is going through China and is early in the process, I can help you with some ways to speed everything up (it is called: get married in Hong Kong or Thailand instead, (both of which are easy for Chinese passport holders to visit) and file through there!).

lele

I wish you the best of luck with your situation and really hope that you can have a chance to spend time together and share some exciting stories!

Yes, I am so frustrated, although she just got done at the hospital and had a very professional appointment there (we choose to pay extra money to have it done in Beijing to avoid the horror stories of the cheap places in Guangzhou where doctors will write up patients as having HIV to get a little extra bribe money)...

But, on the bright side, I have many sunny pictures and have traveled places I may have never otherwise seen in China and in Asia and have seen things older than anywhere I have seen before in Europe (including Roman architecture), and so much more old than the US that it has changed my ability to comprehend the past.

Thanks, and I will try my best to make people happy too.