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Old Feb 21st 2014, 7:51 pm
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Hi all,

I know it must vary immensely, but what is the shortest time and longest time anyone's ever heard of/experienced for an RFE being received after submitting the I-751?

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Hi all,

I know it must vary immensely, but what is the shortest time and longest time anyone's ever heard of/experienced for an RFE being received after submitting the I-751?

Thanks!
An RFE can come at any time after filing the I-751. Even if you found out some shortest/longest time frames...how does that help you at all? You case may or may not run along those same time frames.

As a layman, I would hazard a guess at the shortest amount of time for an RFE would be a few weeks, and the longest would be a few years.

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Originally Posted by Noorah101
Even if you found out some shortest/longest time frames...how does that help you at all? You case may or may not run along those same time frames.

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I'm genuinely just interested to know, I guess. Sorry!
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I'm genuinely just interested to know, I guess. Sorry!
LOL, that's OK. Sorry I sounded harsh. I just read your other thread and I realize your concern.

I don't know the longest or shortest, sorry. But if you do get an RFE, don't panic. Just return what is asked for within the time frame and you'll be fine.

Good luck,
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LOL, that's OK. Sorry I sounded harsh. I just read your other thread and I realize your concern.

I don't know the longest or shortest, sorry. But if you do get an RFE, don't panic. Just return what is asked for within the time frame and you'll be fine.

Good luck,
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Not a problem. However, I want/need/will get an RFE, so it's not that I'm worried about - it's the timing! If I get the RFE too soon, I won't be able to file for divorce in time. State-specific laws = problematic in this case.
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Not a problem. However, I want/need/will get an RFE, so it's not that I'm worried about - it's the timing! If I get the RFE too soon, I won't be able to file for divorce in time. State-specific laws = problematic in this case.
Even then, I wouldn't worry. As long as you respond in some way to the RFE on time, your case won't be denied, even if all you do is let them know your divorce is still pending. The only thing that would throw your case off-track is if you don't respond in any way to the RFE on time.

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Default Re: Removal of Conditions RFE Query

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I want/need/will get an RFE, so it's not that I'm worried about - it's the timing! If I get the RFE too soon, I won't be able to file for divorce in time. State-specific laws = problematic in this case.
As Rene notes, we've seen people get an RFE within a week or two of filing. Others have taken a year or more. Your specific issue notwithstanding, there's no way to know, in advance, whether or not you'll get an RFE or when that might happen. If you do get an RFE, you will have only 90 days in which to respond... and you must respond.

Regardless, as long as you file the I-751 within the 90-day window, you'll be fine. Also, be aware that the I-751 is one of the lowest priority applications since your status as a PR doesn't change at all during the time it takes for the I-751 to be adjudicated.

Bottom line - there's absolutely nothing you can do about the timing... so you might as well get on with life. Deal with any issues if/when they occur.

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Regardless, as long as you file the I-751 within the 90-day window, you'll be fine. Also, be aware that the I-751 is one of the lowest priority applications since your status as a PR doesn't change at all during the time it takes for the I-751 to be adjudicated.

Bottom line - there's absolutely nothing you can do about the timing... so you might as well get on with life. Deal with any issues if/when they occur.

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Thank you. I will try to stay calm and not worry.

I know I *must* respond to the RFE within the given time (87 days according to my attorney). However, if I don't have the decree absolut by then, what can I do? I cannot legally file for divorce until September and it will then take 6 weeks minimum to process the divorce. What if I simply can't get the document in time to send for the RFE? I'm assuming they won't accept proof that the divorce is in process.
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I know I *must* respond to the RFE within the given time (87 days according to my attorney). However, if I don't have the decree absolut by then, what can I do?
You can respond to the RFE, stating the reason you can't yet supply the requested information.

I cannot legally file for divorce until September and it will then take 6 weeks minimum to process the divorce. What if I simply can't get the document in time to send for the RFE?
Then you return the RFE with a statement saying exactly that.

I'm assuming they won't accept proof that the divorce is in process.
They will accept that proof, yes, and will probably issue another RFE at a later date, asking for the final divorce decree. Responding to the RFE with any information at all is what keeps your case open.

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Thank you. I will try to stay calm and not worry.

I know I *must* respond to the RFE within the given time (87 days according to my attorney). However, if I don't have the decree absolut by then, what can I do? I cannot legally file for divorce until September and it will then take 6 weeks minimum to process the divorce. What if I simply can't get the document in time to send for the RFE? I'm assuming they won't accept proof that the divorce is in process.
Also, I'm thinking they will ask for the RFE pretty quickly as, although I am not asking to waive the joint filing requirement, I won't be able to provide any proof of divorce at the time I have to file the I-751.
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Also, I'm thinking they will ask for the RFE pretty quickly as, although I am not asking to waive the joint filing requirement, I won't be able to provide any proof of divorce at the time I have to file the I-751.
That's OK.

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You can respond to the RFE, stating the reason you can't yet supply the requested information.


Then you return the RFE with a statement saying exactly that.


They will accept that proof, yes, and will probably issue another RFE at a later date, asking for the final divorce decree. Responding to the RFE with any information at all is what keeps your case open.

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Oh my goodness. I actually felt the air come back into my lungs. Thank you SO much for the response. I had no idea that that would be sufficient. Thank you, thank you.
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However, if I don't have the decree absolut by then, what can I do?
You don't need the decree absolut in order to respond to the RFE. All you need to do, is respond to the RFE.


What if I simply can't get the document in time to send for the RFE?
If that's what happens, then you respond to the RFE indicating that as soon as you have the decree absolut that you will submit it. Responding to the RFE and giving them what they want are two totally separate things! Since you can't possibly give them something you don't yet have, you tell them they'll get it once you get it!


I'm assuming they won't accept proof that the divorce is in process.
What? Why? Proof of your divorce in process is exactly the sort of information you'll want to submit if you get an RFE and you haven't yet got the decree absolut.

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Originally Posted by ian-mstm
You don't need the decree absolut in order to respond to the RFE. All you need to do, is respond to the RFE.



If that's what happens, then you respond to the RFE indicating that as soon as you have the decree absolut that you will submit it. Responding to the RFE and giving them what they want are two totally separate things! Since you can't possibly give them something you don't yet have, you tell them they'll get it once you get it!



What? Why? Proof of your divorce in process is exactly the sort of information you'll want to submit if you get an RFE and you haven't yet got the decree absolut.

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Thank you. I don't know... I just worry! So lovely to have this community to turn to. I really appreciate you all.
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Originally Posted by Noorah101
You can respond to the RFE, stating the reason you can't yet supply the requested information.


Then you return the RFE with a statement saying exactly that.


They will accept that proof, yes, and will probably issue another RFE at a later date, asking for the final divorce decree. Responding to the RFE with any information at all is what keeps your case open.

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Just had this email from my attorney, as I wanted to ask his view also:


"As we discussed during our meeting; you can certainly try requesting an extension, but USCIS standard practice (as per Policy Memoranda) is that if you fail to provide the requested evidence during the time allowed on the RFE (87 days), the petition is denied and a Notice to Appear is issued. That is why timing is key in your case.
So, you can certainly try asking for an extension if it comes to that (based on the state specific divorce laws); but I wouldn’t bet on them granting it or issuing a second RFE."


This is kind of stressful. :/
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