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Jamie1875 Aug 11th 2012 9:24 pm

Preparing for K1 interview
 
Well folk's i've reached the exciting stage of preparing for my interview which is in 2 weeks time!

I'm gathering all the necessary paperwork now in which i need to take down to London with me and i'm just wondering if anyone can help me out with that papers it is exactly that i need?

I've been looking at the embassy site and i gather that i need to take with me -

'Original documents or certified copies, and one photocopy (with the exception of your passport and photographs).....All documents are required even if they were previously submitted to the USCIS with your petition.'

Now which documents do they mean exactly? :blink:

As far as i see from that page it's a -

Passport

Birth Certificate

Police Certificate

DS-230, part 2, pages 3 & 4,

3 Photographs which meet DOS standard (it mentions 2 are for the visa and 1 for the medical but are these required again? because when i sent them package 3 i attached 2 photos to the papers and when i went down for the medical i handed over another photo which went on my file)

Affidavit of Support - So that's form I-864 from my fiance yeah? And i also need a I-134 from her?

A notarized statement of intent to marry from her

All documents Unless already submitted to the National Visa Centre (NVC) - which documents are these they talk of?

So is it just all the above and then things as evidence to support our relationship?

Pictures, another statement of intent to marry from me? A page which reflects my savings should they require it, my fiances tax showings etc



Sorry for the long message guy's, i just wanna make sure i get this 100% right and that i head down to London with exactly everything that i need. Would be great if especially those reading this who perhaps very recently went for their interview could tell me everything they brought and everything that was asked of them.

Thanks :)

Moxie Aug 12th 2012 1:40 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 
Put at the top of your list:

Interview letter
Receipt for paying the visa fee



Originally Posted by Jamie1875 (Post 10222831)
Now which documents do they mean exactly? :blink:

The ones listed for you on this page http://london.usembassy.gov/application_documents.html
There are links to further explanation within the list. READ the further details if you want to avoid mistakes.

As far as i see from that page it's a -

Passport

Birth Certificate

Police Certificate

DS-230, part 2, pages 3 & 4, Not for K1

3 Photographs which meet DOS standard (it mentions 2 are for the visa and 1 for the medical but are these required again? because when i sent them package 3 i attached 2 photos to the papers and when i went down for the medical i handed over another photo which went on my file)
You were supposed to take 2 to the interview and not attach to your forms, but since you did they already have this from you.

Affidavit of Support - So that's form I-864 from my fiance yeah?
K1s do the I-134, not I-864

A notarized statement of intent to marry from her
Read your first letter from them. It says only if 4 months pass before your interview.


All documents Unless already submitted to the National Visa Centre (NVC) - which documents are these they talk of?
Thats for spouse visas. You didn't submit document to NVC

So is it just all the above and then things as evidence to support our relationship?
Read http://london.usembassy.gov/application_documents.html and the further information link

another statement of intent to marry from me? Not needed.

Pictures, A page which reflects my savings should they require it, my fiances tax showings etc




Sorry for the long message guy's, i just wanna make sure i get this 100% right and that i head down to London with exactly everything that i need. Would be great if especially those reading this who perhaps very recently went for their interview could tell me everything they brought and everything that was asked of them.

Thanks :)
I don't think you have it quite down yet. Read your letters from the embassy. Read the link I gave you.

ian-mstm Aug 12th 2012 2:02 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 

Originally Posted by Jamie1875 (Post 10222831)
Affidavit of Support - So that's form I-864 from my fiance yeah? And i also need a I-134 from her?

Apparently, you need to be reminded at least once more, that you do NOT need an I-864 for a K-1 visa.

Ian

jeffreyhy Aug 12th 2012 4:28 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 
It appears that you may be reading about information for immigrant visas, not a K1.
- no DS-230 Part II
- no I-864, only I-134
- you know perfectly well that you have not submitted any documents to the NVC.

Regards, JEff



Originally Posted by Jamie1875 (Post 10222831)
I've been looking at the embassy site and i gather that i need to take with me - ...


Jamie1875 Aug 12th 2012 11:51 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 
http://london.usembassy.gov/application_documents.html

Ok so..

Interview letter

Receipt for paying the visa fee

Police Certificate

Birth Certificate

I-134 from my fiance

plus copies aswel as originals for the above.

Going by the link that's the required documents that i'm seeing. Apologies if i've missed any, have i?

So if i take all that along and then on top of that i've read on various threads on here that people take along (and are sometimes asked for) photos, and also if they aren't impressed with my fiances I-134 (which i'm fairly confident they will be as she has a pretty decent amount in her account) i also have bank statements that can show savings that i also have, so i have that if needs be.

I just thought there was more that i needed to take to the interview.. :huh:

Noorah101 Aug 12th 2012 12:08 pm

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 

Originally Posted by Jamie1875 (Post 10223718)
and also if they aren't impressed with my fiances I-134 (which i'm fairly confident they will be as she has a pretty decent amount in her account) i also have bank statements that can show savings that i also have, so i have that if needs be.

The thing is, only one of you can sponsor. You can either "self sponsor" if YOU have enough in savings, or she can sponsor you, if she has enough in either income or savings. You say a "pretty decent amount", but it's subjective, and up to the ConOff to agree it's enough to prevent you from becoming a public charge in the USA.

Although the I-864 is not the affidavit of support at this stage, and the amounts on the I-864P are not enforced at this stage, it's still a good rough guideline as to how much the ConOff will be looking for.

You cannot combine your savings with your fiancee's savings to come up with a total amount.

Rene

Jamie1875 Aug 12th 2012 12:14 pm

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 

Originally Posted by Noorah101 (Post 10223737)
The thing is, only one of you can sponsor. You can either "self sponsor" if YOU have enough in savings, or she can sponsor you, if she has enough in either income or savings. You say a "pretty decent amount", but it's subjective, and up to the ConOff to agree it's enough to prevent you from becoming a public charge in the USA.

Although the I-864 is not the affidavit of support at this stage, and the amounts on the I-864P are not enforced at this stage, it's still a good rough guideline as to how much the ConOff will be looking for.

You cannot combine your savings with your fiancee's savings to come up with a total amount.

Rene

Having looked at the figures, my fiances amount will be plently for her to sponsor me. Rene is there anything i haven't mentioned yet that i need to bring to the interview? Any other forms i need to take etc?

Noorah101 Aug 12th 2012 1:00 pm

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 

Originally Posted by Jamie1875 (Post 10223746)
Having looked at the figures, my fiances amount will be plently for her to sponsor me.

Don't forget that if she's not using income, but is using savings, the amount should probably be around 3x the 125% figure on the I-864P. It doesn't have to be exact, but just a guideline.


Rene is there anything i haven't mentioned yet that i need to bring to the interview? Any other forms i need to take etc?
If 4 months have passed since the I-129F approval, bring an updated letter of intent from your fiancee. Bring originals of anything she submitted a photocopy of with the I-129F. Along with the I-134, make sure she has proof of her income and/or assets. Other than that, looks good to me.

Rene

Moxie Aug 12th 2012 3:07 pm

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 

Originally Posted by Jamie1875 (Post 10223718)
http://london.usembassy.gov/application_documents.html

I just thought there was more that i needed to take to the interview.. :huh:

Your passport was left off your revised list.
Credit card to pay the courier.

Jamie1875 Aug 12th 2012 8:48 pm

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 

Originally Posted by Noorah101 (Post 10223817)
Don't forget that if she's not using income, but is using savings, the amount should probably be around 3x the 125% figure on the I-864P. It doesn't have to be exact, but just a guideline.


If 4 months have passed since the I-129F approval, bring an updated letter of intent from your fiancee. Bring originals of anything she submitted a photocopy of with the I-129F. Along with the I-134, make sure she has proof of her income and/or assets. Other than that, looks good to me.

Rene

Our I-129F approval is the date on the letter they sent me asking to send in all the forms (package 3) yeah? after it says 'Your Priority Date'? Thats when the I-129F was approved and that was 14th June, so we're still within the 4 months so therefore we shouldn't require any updated letter of intent?

Noorah101 Aug 13th 2012 2:30 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 

Originally Posted by Jamie1875 (Post 10224273)
Our I-129F approval is the date on the letter they sent me asking to send in all the forms (package 3) yeah? after it says 'Your Priority Date'? Thats when the I-129F was approved and that was 14th June, so we're still within the 4 months so therefore we shouldn't require any updated letter of intent?

The I-129F approval date will be on the NOA2 (Notice of Action - Approval of I-129F) which came by mail to the USC petitioner.

Rene

Jamie1875 Aug 13th 2012 5:14 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 

Originally Posted by Noorah101 (Post 10224946)
The I-129F approval date will be on the NOA2 (Notice of Action - Approval of I-129F) which came by mail to the USC petitioner.

Rene

Aaah ok, yeah she actually sent me that, the I-797 Notice Of Action, which starts off by saying 'The above petition has been approved'. The notice date is the 14th of June so it looks like we're within the 4 months.

From my fiance i have her original I-129F, and I-134. I also have her Income Tax Return which shows her income and Tax payments. I have her G-325A Biographic Information. I have a statement from her boss with all his contact information which was typed on a State Farm Insurance piece of paper and signed which lays out her gross hourly salary. I have her Wells Fargo bank account statement which shows her balance on June 21st and also another Wells Fargo statement which shows her savings account balance. These have both been signed and printed also by a person who works in the bank.

I have originals and photocopies of all the above.

So thats everything i have from my fiance. From me I have my Interview Letter, Receipt for paying the visa fee, Passport, Police Certificate, Birth Certificate (long version) plus things to validate the relationship if required.

Going by everything i've mentioned in the folder i'm taking down am i good for launch? ....:)

Noorah101 Aug 13th 2012 5:33 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 

Originally Posted by Jamie1875 (Post 10225282)
From my fiance i have her original I-129F...,

You shouldn't have her original I-129F. She should have sent that in to USCIS a long time ago with the original I-129F petition application. Perhaps you have a photocopy of it.

Rene

jeffreyhy Aug 13th 2012 6:50 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 
The petition approval date will be shown on the petition Approval Notice from USCIS, it's the 'from' date for the period of validity of the petition approval. It may not be the Notice Date, but will be close to it.

The Priority Date may or may not be shown on either the petition Receipt Notice or the petition Approval notice, because it has no meaning with respect to K visas. However, it would be within a few days of the Receipt Date shown on the Receipt Notice. The consulate will want reaffirmation that the parties are willing and able to marry, as they were back when when the petition was first submitted.

Regards, JEff



Originally Posted by Jamie1875 (Post 10224273)
Our I-129F approval is the date on the letter they sent me asking to send in all the forms (package 3) yeah? after it says 'Your Priority Date'? Thats when the I-129F was approved and that was 14th June, so we're still within the 4 months so therefore we shouldn't require any updated letter of intent?


Moxie Aug 13th 2012 8:52 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 

Originally Posted by jeffreyhy (Post 10225495)
The consulate will want reaffirmation that the parties are willing and able to marry, as they were back when when the petition was first submitted.

Regards, JEff

Not needed from either party at this time. The letter from the Embassy says:
The K1/3 petition is valid for four months from the date of action (priority date at the bottom of the letter) and must be valid to process your case to conclusion. To revalidate the petition, please request your fiancé(e) to make a notarized statement of intent to marry within ninety days of your arrival in the U.S. and present it on the day of your interview.
She doesn't need to revalidate the petition unless she doesn't interview until October 14. At the bottom of the letter it has specific info to the case including Priority Date. Priority date as listed by the embassy is the date of petition approval for the purpose of this letter.

The beneficiary signs under oath his intent at the interview.

Moxie Aug 13th 2012 9:01 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 

Originally Posted by Jamie1875 (Post 10225282)

Going by everything i've mentioned in the folder i'm taking down am i good for launch? ....:)

Yes and then some. The copy of the petition isn't needed by you. They have the original in your file. The approval notice isn't needed by you at the interview, but don't lose it because you need a photocopy of it to include with your adjustment of status application.

jeffreyhy Aug 13th 2012 9:23 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 
OK, I should have written "The consulate may want reaffirmation that the parties are willing and able to marry, as they were back when when the petition was first submitted."

Agreed that the consular section in London requires a new statement of intent to marry in order to revalidate the petition, but there could be other reasons why they might want it - case specific reasons, such as ambiguous information in the supporting documentation that is submitted.

Regards, JEff



Originally Posted by Moxie (Post 10225734)
Not needed from either party at this time. The letter from the Embassy says:
The K1/3 petition is valid for four months from the date of action (priority date at the bottom of the letter) and must be valid to process your case to conclusion. To revalidate the petition, please request your fiancé(e) to make a notarized statement of intent to marry within ninety days of your arrival in the U.S. and present it on the day of your interview.
She doesn't need to revalidate the petition unless she doesn't interview until October 14. At the bottom of the letter it has specific info to the case including Priority Date. Priority date as listed by the embassy is the date of petition approval for the purpose of this letter.

The beneficiary signs under oath his intent at the interview.


Moxie Aug 13th 2012 10:08 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 
I bet you could come up with an argument for why the consulate may want him to paint his toenails pink, too. :eek:

jeffreyhy Aug 13th 2012 10:11 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 
No, I couldn't. But I have seen cases where new statements of intent were requested when revalidation of the petition was not the issue, so I know it can happen.

Regards, JEff



Originally Posted by Moxie (Post 10225862)
I bet you could come up with an argument for why the consulate may want him to paint his toenails pink, too. :eek:


Jamie1875 Aug 13th 2012 1:10 pm

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 
Right, so my fiance currently earns $15k per year. Are you saying that if she doesnt include income that the savings amount should be 3x the 125% proverty line.

She currently has $4,000 in her savings account and i have a pretty large amount of savings also in my account here in the UK.

Noorah101 Aug 13th 2012 1:33 pm

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 

Originally Posted by Jamie1875 (Post 10226057)
Right, so my fiance currently earns $15k per year. Are you saying that if she doesnt include income that the savings amount should be 3x the 125% proverty line.

She currently has $4,000 in her savings account and i have a pretty large amount of savings also in my account here in the UK.

We are saying that for the I-134, there are no set dollar amounts required. It will be up to the ConOff to decide if the amount shown is enough. As a rough guideline, you can use the I-864P figures.

In general, for the I-864, if assets are used, they must equal 3x what is lacking in income. However, since there's no set dollar amount for the I-134, that's not written in stone, it's just a rough guideline.

You cannot combine your own savings with your fiance's savings or income to come up with a total figure. But of course you can bring evidence of everything to the K-1 visa interview, and see what the ConOff thinks...either your fiance qualifies or she doesn't; or you qualify or you don't; and if neither of you do, you'll be asked to find a sponsor who does.

Keep in mind you will need to do this all again with your subsequent AOS and I-864 affidavit of support, which has strict dollar amount requirements. So be prepared. But by that time, your assets CAN be included on your wife's I-864.

Rene

Jamie1875 Aug 13th 2012 1:36 pm

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 
So i have photocopies that my fiance sent me of everything she submitted with the I-129F, i also have a I-134 from her. But from what you're saying Jeff i take it that it would be wise if she was to send me over to take to the interview a notarized copy of an up to date statement of intent to marry. Just going by what you previously mentioned of the officer by off chance still requesting it even though the person is still within the 4 month period like ourselfs?

Noorah101 Aug 13th 2012 1:39 pm

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 

Originally Posted by Jamie1875 (Post 10226080)
But from what you're saying Jeff i take it that it would be wise if she was to send me over to take to the interview a notarized copy of an up to date statement of intent to marry. Just going by what you previously mentioned of the officer by off chance still requesting it even though the person is still within the 4 month period like ourselfs?

If your interview is within the 4 months, another statement of intent is highly unlikely to be needed.

But if you do want to bring one, it does not have to be notarized.

Rene

Jamie1875 Aug 13th 2012 2:12 pm

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 
Ok, it's just that in the letter they sent me requesting the package 3 forms they said ''To revalidate the petition, please request your fiance to make a notarized statement of intent to marry within 90 days of your arrival in the US and present it on the day of your interview.

So if i'm taking it down with me just incase, even though as you say it's highly unlikely that i'll need it anyway, by the sounds of it they request that it's notarized according to the letter?

Noorah101 Aug 13th 2012 2:15 pm

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 

Originally Posted by Jamie1875 (Post 10226115)
Ok, it's just that in the letter they sent me requesting the package 3 forms they said ''To revalidate the petition, please request your fiance to make a notarized statement of intent to marry within 90 days of your arrival in the US and present it on the day of your interview.

So if i'm taking it down with me just incase, even though as you say it's highly unlikely that i'll need it anyway, by the sounds of it they request that it's notarized according to the letter?

If that's what it specifically says in the instructions, then go ahead and do that.

Rene

jeffreyhy Aug 14th 2012 2:14 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 
I agree with Rene's answer to this question, but if you are risk averse and want to avoid any chance of delay be prepared with an updated statement of intent.

Regards, JEff



Originally Posted by Jamie1875 (Post 10226080)
So i have photocopies that my fiance sent me of everything she submitted with the I-129F, i also have a I-134 from her. But from what you're saying Jeff i take it that it would be wise if she was to send me over to take to the interview a notarized copy of an up to date statement of intent to marry. Just going by what you previously mentioned of the officer by off chance still requesting it even though the person is still within the 4 month period like ourselfs?


Jamie1875 Aug 17th 2012 2:37 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 
Hey guys,

So i was just thinking, the part on the embassy website that says -

''All documents are required even if they were previously submitted to the USCIS with your petition.''

My fiance made photocopies of everything she sent with the I-129F Petition and she sent them over to me. So i have photocopies of them but they aren't the original's, and it's the part on the site that say's - ''You are required to obtain the original documents or certified copies, and one photocopy (with the exception of your passport and photographs)''.

So am i ok going down just with all the copies of the I-129F petition that she sent me or do i need to get her to fill out all the forms again and send them over for my interview? :confused:

Also, i (stupidly) didn't make copies of the DS forms that i sent to the embassy with package 3. Do i need to go and do these forms again and take them down to London with me or am i fine because they aren't required as these weren't submitted to USCIS? I know i should of made copies of everything and i have no idea why i forgot to do this with the DS forms (which took flippin ages to do! Haha)

Thanks

Noorah101 Aug 17th 2012 3:17 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 
In general, when things are submitted to USCIS or DOS, forms are originals and backup evidence is photocopies. When you attend the visa interview, bring a photocopy of the forms, and the original backup evidence. But London is one of the lenient ones, and does not usually ask to see the originals of the backup evidence that was sent with the I-129F.

The only original form you should be bringing to the visa interview is the I-134. Backup documents for the I-134 should be photocopies.

Rene

Jamie1875 Aug 17th 2012 9:46 pm

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 

Originally Posted by Noorah101 (Post 10232415)
In general, when things are submitted to USCIS or DOS, forms are originals and backup evidence is photocopies. When you attend the visa interview, bring a photocopy of the forms, and the original backup evidence. But London is one of the lenient ones, and does not usually ask to see the originals of the backup evidence that was sent with the I-129F.

The only original form you should be bringing to the visa interview is the I-134. Backup documents for the I-134 should be photocopies.

Rene

What do you mean for the original backup evidence? As in evidence that we submitted to prove the relationship, ie photo's and such?

So, photocopies of I-129F petition forms, photocopies of DS forms, original I-134 (even though i submitted an original one from my fiance with package 3, she's sent me another one aswel though) Original evidence thats is proof of the relationship. My bank savings statements if required. Passport, Birth/police certificate originals/copies

How's my list? Sorry that i keep going on abit, it's obviously just so important i get this right, i need too! :fingerscrossed:

Noorah101 Aug 18th 2012 1:03 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 

Originally Posted by Jamie1875 (Post 10233568)
What do you mean for the original backup evidence? As in evidence that we submitted to prove the relationship, ie photo's and such?

Yes. But you'd only need to show these if the ConOff asks, and in London they rarely ask.


So, photocopies of I-129F petition forms, photocopies of DS forms,
Yes, although you probably won't be asked to show them.


original I-134 (even though i submitted an original one from my fiance with package 3, she's sent me another one aswel though)
The I-134 wasn't supposed to be submitted ahead of time, you're supposed to take it to the interview...but you'll be fine. Bring the original she's sending you, just in case.


Original evidence thats is proof of the relationship. My bank savings statements if required. Passport, Birth/police certificate originals/copies
Yes.

Don't worry. London is very relaxed about the amount of evidence and whether you have originals/copies and such. Sounds to me like you'll be fine.

Rene

Jamie1875 Aug 18th 2012 12:31 pm

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 

Originally Posted by Noorah101 (Post 10233772)
Yes. But you'd only need to show these if the ConOff asks, and in London they rarely ask.


Yes, although you probably won't be asked to show them.


The I-134 wasn't supposed to be submitted ahead of time, you're supposed to take it to the interview...but you'll be fine. Bring the original she's sending you, just in case.


Yes.

Don't worry. London is very relaxed about the amount of evidence and whether you have originals/copies and such. Sounds to me like you'll be fine.

Rene

Thank-you so much Rene, seriously i mean that! You're a star :)

Ok the next time i post i'll hopefully be reporting in very high spirits my K1 Visa being approved!! :D:fingerscrossed:

Jamie1875 Aug 20th 2012 9:33 pm

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 
Ok one last post before my interview haha.

So i was wondering, when i'm there and they ask for my evidence to show i have financial support, if they aren't quite happy with what they see will they out right reject the case or do they ask if i have anything else?

what i mean is, i'm trying to get an idea of generally how the conversation goes with them. You see i'm now in possession of two I-134's and i have my bank statement that shows my savings and also another document that shows i have money savings in a bond.

I'm unsure if my fiancee's I-134 is going to be acceptable to them or not. The other I-134 is from her dad, my future father in law, and his I-134 reflects a much higher income.

So, once they ask to see my financial support i'm thinking to myself what to give them?? Do i hand them my fiancees I-134 followed by saying ''I also have savings myself and an additional I-134 if needs be'' Do i just say ''I also have savings'' and just not mention the other I-134 and only do so if the ConOff isn't happy with my fiancees I-134?? Is that even possible?

Folk who have been through this part of the process will be in a MUCH better position to comment than me, but basically what i'm getting at is after i hand over my things and they go off to review it, do they come back with a 'sorry you don't qualify' therefore missing your chance to provide any addition financial support you might of had, or do you still have an oppertunity to present them with something else?..

ian-mstm Aug 21st 2012 1:00 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 

Originally Posted by Jamie1875 (Post 10237884)
So, once they ask to see my financial support i'm thinking to myself what to give them?

You give them the one from your fiancee - and you say nothing. Not a peep! If it's a problem, you then hand over the one from her dad.

If neither is acceptable, and the officer doesn't like your own assets, then you will be given time to get another sponsor. Your visa will not be denied outright because of this.

Ian

Noorah101 Aug 21st 2012 4:00 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 

Originally Posted by ian-mstm (Post 10238222)
You give them the one from your fiancee - and you say nothing. Not a peep! If it's a problem, you then hand over the one from her dad.

If neither is acceptable, and the officer doesn't like your own assets, then you will be given time to get another sponsor. Your visa will not be denied outright because of this.

Ian

+1 to everything Ian said.

Rene

jeffreyhy Aug 21st 2012 4:41 am

Re: Preparing for K1 interview
 
I agree, great answer.

Regards, JEff



Originally Posted by ian-mstm (Post 10238222)
You give them the one from your fiancee - and you say nothing. Not a peep! If it's a problem, you then hand over the one from her dad.

If neither is acceptable, and the officer doesn't like your own assets, then you will be given time to get another sponsor. Your visa will not be denied outright because of this.

Ian



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