meauxna

I don't ignore it.

There is a wiki page that addresses it already.

I think you get confused about my feelings about advocating planning ahead to enter on the VWP and adjust status.

Plenty of people find themselves here and then decide. While it's a fine line, it's different.

BritishGuy36

Ok then.

Bob. Is it possible to create a table with 4 columns in it, on a wiki page?

Or can I just paste HTML somehow and create the table in notepad or something else.

If you want to go ahead and create the blank page as a placeholder, we could call it 'Comparison of Legal Marriage-Based immigration paths' or similar (I know that's a mouthful).

I'll put something together later in the week. I'm of the opinion that we should only list legal ways to immigrate.

meauxna

I don't think there's a need to include the word 'legal' in the title.

Why not just compare the marriage-based VISAS and let the others ask away?

BritishGuy36

Sounds good.

'Comparison of marriage-based visas'

And please, PLEASE if someone creates the page, don't incorrectly put an apostrophe between the A and S in visas.....I'd cringe every time I looked at it.

ian-mstm

Yes... I'll PM you the raw HTML code for a page I did a year or so ago. You can adapt it to suit your needs.

Ian

fatbrit

It wouldn't be complete without! Though if someone mentions instruments of medieval torture, they may have gone too far.

fatbrit

See if the following works -- we have the same wiki as wikipedia. If it doesn't, you'll have to ask Sue to get IB to add the class.


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Category
! Crimes involving moral turpitude
! Crimes not involving moral turpitude
|-

! Crimes Against Property
| '''[[Fraud]]:'''
* Making false representation
* Knowledge of such false representation by the perpetrator
* Reliance on the false representation by the person defrauded
* An [[intent]] to defraud
* The actual act of committing fraud
'''Evil intent:'''
* [[Arson]]
* [[Blackmail]]
* [[Burglary]]
* [[Embezzlement]]
* [[Extortion]]
* [[False pretenses]]
* [[Forgery]]
* [[Fraud]]
* [[Larceny]] (grand or petty)
* [[Malice (legal term)|Malicious]] destruction of property
* Receiving stolen goods (with guilty knowledge)
* [[Robbery]]
* [[Theft]] (when it involves the intention of permanent taking)
* Transporting stolen property (with guilty knowledge)
|
* Damaging private [[property]] (where intent to damage not required)
* Breaking and entering (requiring no specific or implicit intent to commit a crime involving moral turpitude)
* Passing bad checks (where intent to defraud not required)
* Possessing stolen property (if guilty knowledge is not essential)
* [[Joyride (crime)|Joy riding]] (where the intention to take permanently not required)
* [[Juvenile delinquency]]
* [[Trespassing]]
|-

! Crimes Committed Against Governmental Authority
|
* [[Bribery]]
* [[Counterfeiting]]
* [[Fraud]] against revenue or other government functions
* [[Mail fraud]]
* [[Perjury]]
* Harboring a [[fugitive]] from justice (with guilty knowledge)
* [[Tax evasion]] (willful)
|
* [[Underground economy|Black market]] violations
* [[Breach of the peace]]
* [[Concealed Carry in the United States|Carrying a concealed weapon]]
* [[Desertion]] from the Armed Forces
* [[Disorderly conduct]]
* [[Driving under the influence of alcohol|Drunk]] or [[reckless driving]]
* Driving while license suspended or revoked
* [[Drunk]]enness
* [[Prison escape|Escape from prison]]
* Failure to report for [[Conscription|military induction]]
* False statements (not amounting to perjury or involving fraud)
* [[Firearm]] violations
* [[Gambling]] violations
* [[Immigration]] violations
* [[Distilled beverage|Liquor]] violations
* [[Loan shark]]ing
* [[Lottery]] violations
* Minor [[Moving violation|traffic violations]]
* Possessing [[Burglary|burglar]] tools (without intent to commit burglary)
* [[Smuggling]] and customs violations (where intent to commit fraud is absent)
* [[Tax avoidance and tax evasion|Tax evasion]] (without intent to defraud)
* [[Vagrancy (people)|Vagrancy]]
|-
! Crimes Committed Against Person, Family Relationship, and Sexual Morality
|
* [[Abandonment]] of a minor child (if willful and resulting in the destitution of the child)
* [[Adultery]] (see INA 101** repealed by Public Law 97-116)
* [[Assault]] (this crime is broken down into several categories, which involve moral turpitude):
** Assault with intent to kill, commit rape, commit robbery or commit serious bodily harm
** Assault with a dangerous or deadly weapon
* [[Polygamy#Bigamy|Bigamy]]
* Contributing to the delinquency of a [[Child|minor]]
* [[Decency|Gross indecency]]
* Incest (if the result of an improper sexual relationship)
* [[Kidnapping]]
* [[Lascivious|Lewdness]]
* [[Manslaughter]]:
** Voluntary
** Involuntary (where the statute requires proof of recklessness, which is defined as the awareness and conscious disregard of a substantial and unjustified risk which constitutes a gross deviation from the standard that a reasonable person would observe in the situation. A conviction for the statutory offense of vehicular homicide or other involuntary manslaughter only requires a showing of negligence will not involve moral turpitude even if it appears the defendant in fact acted recklessly)
* [[Mayhem (crime)|Mayhem]]
* [[Murder]]
* [[Procuring (prostitution)|Pandering]]
* [[Prostitution]]
* [[Rape]] (including "[[Statutory rape]]" by virtue of the victim's age)
|
* [[Assault]] (simple) (i.e., any assault, which does not require an evil intent or depraved motive, although it may involve the use of a weapon, which is neither dangerous nor deadly)
* [[Illegitimacy|Bastardy]] (i.e., the offense of begetting a bastard child)
* Creating or maintaining a [[nuisance]] (where knowledge that premises were used for prostitution is not necessary)
* [[Incest]] (when a result of a marital status prohibited by law)
* Involuntary manslaughter (when killing is not the result of recklessness)
* [[Defamation|Libel]]
* Mailing an [[Obscenity|obscene]] letter
* [[Mann Act]] violations (where coercion is not present)
* Riot
* [[Suicide]] (attempted)
|-
! Attempts, Aiding and Abetting, Accessories and Conspiracy
|
* An attempt to commit a [[crime]] deemed to involve moral turpitude
* Aiding and abetting in the commission of a crime deemed to involve moral turpitude
* Being an accessory (before or after the fact) in the commission of a crime deemed to involve moral turpitude
* Taking part in a [[Conspiracy (crime)|conspiracy]] (or attempting to take part in a conspiracy) to commit a crime involving moral turpitude where the attempted crime would not itself constitute moral turpitude.
|
N/A
|-
| colspan="3" align="left"|From the [[United States Department of State]] Foreign Affairs Manual<ref name = FAM/>
|-
|}

BritishGuy36

Thanks, but I need someone with permissions to set up the blank page for me, before I can try anything....

jeffreyhy

BG,

No, I don't. But neither do I enjoy seeing people give out misleading or incorrect information.

I also don't enjoy people telling me what I enjoy or what my intentions are.

Regards, JEff

fatbrit

Wikimedia sets up the page when you type in the URL. So if you type in your browser "http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Rete for Queen" <enter>, you'll get a new page with URL britishexpats.com/wiki/Rete_for_Queen and titled Rete for Queen.

BritishGuy36

That's what I got told last time (for the tax filing wiki) but it didn't work for me.

I'll give it another go.

meauxna

BG36, can you not simply flesh out this existing article?
http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Marriage_Based_Green_Card


Anyone else: Is there a simple explanation for why some of the immigration articles appear under 'USA' (and also under Immigration), and some do not?
The whole wiki organization thing confounds me.

fatbrit

Place the following at the top of your page and it will appear in both USA and USA Immigration.

meauxna

ahhhh. And that can be edited in?

Should all immigration articles (or most) have that added? Or subtracted, so they only appear in Immigration?
Just trying to understand if there is a rationale etc

fatbrit

Just copy and paste the code at the top of each one you want to edit.

All articles should be categorized to distinguish them from dingo and cannuk ones! If you add both categories as given they'll appear in USA and USA Immigration. Where do you want them to appear? If it's only the one, just use one of them.