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claudia13839 Oct 15th 2003 1:27 pm

New procedure for AOS via NYC district office !? READ !!!
 
Hello everyone,

As I posted before my husband (a K3 Visa holder) sent the AOS application to NYC district office on 10-4-03. We were expecting only to receive the infamous "little yellow receipt", but guess what....

Yesterday, in the mail we found 2 I-797 Notice of Action letters. One addressed to me, for the I-864 affidavit and the other in my husbands name for the I-485.

His I-797 gives instructions for the biometrics appointment. An interesting point is that the receipt number begins with "MSC-xx-xxx-xxxxx". Does this mean the application was forward to Missouri Service Center (they handle the K3's)???

Also, a notice was attached claiming a new procedure. It states that in an effort to improve their services, BCIS has forwarded the form identified on the enclosed Receipt Notice to this facility for processing. But what is "this facility"??? I am guessing MSC???

When I checked the status online it states 120-180 days for processing. Can this be right?

~Claudia

Rete Oct 15th 2003 2:29 pm

Re: New procedure for AOS via NYC district office !? READ !!!
 
Yes, MSC is the Missouri Service Center and I believe it is also called the NBC National Benefits Center. Mr. Folinskyinla wrote to advise of us new procedure which would be taking place a month or so ago. So no big surprise to many of us here on the forum.

Glad to see that NYC is actively participating at the moment as it might well prove to unclog the backlog of AOS, EAD and other sundry petitions lanquishing on the shelves in the bowels of 26 Fed Plaza.

Rete


Originally posted by claudia13839
Hello everyone,

As I posted before my husband (a K3 Visa holder) sent the AOS application to NYC district office on 10-4-03. We were expecting only to receive the infamous "little yellow receipt", but guess what....

Yesterday, in the mail we found 2 I-797 Notice of Action letters. One addressed to me, for the I-864 affidavit and the other in my husbands name for the I-485.

His I-797 gives instructions for the biometrics appointment. An interesting point is that the receipt number begins with "MSC-xx-xxx-xxxxx". Does this mean the application was forward to Missouri Service Center (they handle the K3's)???

Also, a notice was attached claiming a new procedure. It states that in an effort to improve their services, BCIS has forwarded the form identified on the enclosed Receipt Notice to this facility for processing. But what is "this facility"??? I am guessing MSC???

When I checked the status online it states 120-180 days for processing. Can this be right?

~Claudia

nycbcis Oct 15th 2003 2:55 pm

Just to let you know that i have been waiting for AOS at NYC BCIS since August 2001!!!!!!.
i would assume that the paper on my file is starting to get yellowish.
If they are expdiating the new application what's gone happen to the old ones like mine?
Frustrated can't help it.
Thanks all.

Rete Oct 15th 2003 3:32 pm


Originally posted by nycbcis
Just to let you know that i have been waiting for AOS at NYC BCIS since August 2001!!!!!!.
i would assume that the paper on my file is starting to get yellowish.
If they are expdiating the new application what's gone happen to the old ones like mine?
Frustrated can't help it.
Thanks all.

Yes I am familiar with the many posts you have started the last two weeks in regards to your NYC DO plight. As others have suggested to you, now appears to be the time for you to either:

1. Hire an attorney to sort through the issue; or

2. Contact your political representative and have their immigration laision look into the issue; or

3. Go to 26 Federal Plaza's 3rd floor information desk and find out what is the problem.

I know that you are also looking for a quick advance parole from this DO.

Rete

claudia13839 Oct 15th 2003 8:45 pm

Re: New procedure for AOS via NYC district office !? READ !!!
 

Originally posted by Rete
Yes, MSC is the Missouri Service Center and I believe it is also called the NBC National Benefits Center. Mr. Folinskyinla wrote to advise of us new procedure which would be taking place a month or so ago. So no big surprise to many of us here on the forum.

Glad to see that NYC is actively participating at the moment as it might well prove to unclog the backlog of AOS, EAD and other sundry petitions lanquishing on the shelves in the bowels of 26 Fed Plaza.

Rete


This is wonderful news!!!! Does this mean that the AOS will be processed in 120-180 days? (Really doubt it). I can't believe it, we are truly lucky. I checked out some sites and the processing for NBC (MSC) for 1-485's was April 2003. WOOOOOOOOOHHOOOOO. I don't want to seem selfish, but I'm soooooo happy. We thought we were look forward to at least 2 years, what a relief.

~Claudia

claudia13839 Oct 15th 2003 8:47 pm

P.S.

Would anyone happen to have the link to Folyskina's thread on this matter??

Thanks.

~Claudia

GoodGirl_J Oct 15th 2003 9:07 pm

Here is the link:
 
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...hreadid=183885

claudia13839 Oct 15th 2003 10:16 pm

Re: Here is the link:
 

Thank you.

nizwa Oct 15th 2003 11:22 pm

Re: New procedure for AOS via NYC district office !? READ !!!
 
I can tell you it is in a memo dated July 14th from BCIS. I cannot
access iot from the site I saw it but it is around get on Google and
look for it.

ERWIN

c Oct 16th 2003 1:07 pm

Re: New procedure for AOS via NYC district office !? READ !!!
 
Hi! I'm actor Troy McClure. You may remember me from such threads as
'Re: New procedure for AOS via NYC district office !? READ !!!' and
'Rete: tasty but deadly.'

    >Glad to see that NYC is actively participating at the moment as it might
    >well prove to unclog the backlog of AOS, EAD and other sundry petitions
    >lanquishing on the shelves in the bowels of 26 Fed Plaza.

This strikes me as a teensy bit unfair - would it not have been more
equitable for the local offices to offload the old pending cases
rather than the new ones?

I filed AOS with NYC on 4/19/02 and at last count NYC BCIS were taking
2+ years. As it stands right now I would be better off abandoning my
original application and re-filing it with MSC! I would get it faster!

Sorry, just railing against the wind. It just bugs me that due solely
to my geography, I have to wait 2+ years and apply for at least 3 EADs
and APs along with their concomitant fees. Their inefficiency will
have cost me an additional $500 in filing fees, photos, mail costs
etc. by the time all's said and done. Meanwhile, just across the river
in Newark you can basically get AOS in the time it takes to make a cup
of tea.

At least one of the 'benefits' of NY taking over 2 years to process
AOS was that you would get the unconditional green card. You watch...
now that NY has offloaded new cases to MSC I *guarantee* you they will
speed up processing just enough to ensure that my interview date is 1
year and 364 days after filing.

OK, rant over. ;-)

Marco

lpdiver Oct 16th 2003 10:13 pm

Re: New procedure for AOS via NYC district office !? READ !!!
 

Originally posted by c
Hi! I'm actor Troy McClure. You may remember me from such threads as
'Re: New procedure for AOS via NYC district office !? READ !!!' and
'Rete: tasty but deadly.'

    >Glad to see that NYC is actively participating at the moment as it might
    >well prove to unclog the backlog of AOS, EAD and other sundry petitions
    >lanquishing on the shelves in the bowels of 26 Fed Plaza.

This strikes me as a teensy bit unfair - would it not have been more
equitable for the local offices to offload the old pending cases
rather than the new ones?

I filed AOS with NYC on 4/19/02 and at last count NYC BCIS were taking
2+ years. As it stands right now I would be better off abandoning my
original application and re-filing it with MSC! I would get it faster!

Sorry, just railing against the wind. It just bugs me that due solely
to my geography, I have to wait 2+ years and apply for at least 3 EADs
and APs along with their concomitant fees. Their inefficiency will
have cost me an additional $500 in filing fees, photos, mail costs
etc. by the time all's said and done. Meanwhile, just across the river
in Newark you can basically get AOS in the time it takes to make a cup
of tea.

At least one of the 'benefits' of NY taking over 2 years to process
AOS was that you would get the unconditional green card. You watch...
now that NY has offloaded new cases to MSC I *guarantee* you they will
speed up processing just enough to ensure that my interview date is 1
year and 364 days after filing.

OK, rant over. ;-)

Marco
Well I wish anyone dealing with BCIS all expediency that they can aquire. However, this expediting has all but stopped the ajudication of k-3 applications. I would think that reuniting families should take precedence, however congrats to all.

Matthew Udall Oct 16th 2003 10:39 pm

Re: New procedure for AOS via NYC district office !? READ !!!
 

Originally posted by c
This strikes me as a teensy bit unfair - would it not have been more
equitable for the local offices to offload the old pending cases
rather than the new ones?

I filed AOS with NYC on 4/19/02 and at last count NYC BCIS were taking
2+ years. As it stands right now I would be better off abandoning my
original application and re-filing it with MSC! I would get it faster!

Marco
Marco, go read the blurb from AILA again. The local offices are not “offloading� their new I-485 cases. They do send these new cases to the NBC for initial intake/processing and EAD and AP work (wonder how this interplays with the new e-filing for EAD’s), but those cases will get sent “back� to the local offices for adjudication, and I’ll bet they will be placed behind your case in line as far as getting the interview goes.

But as this is all brand new and none of us have seen this in action before, it will be interesting to see what happens.

c Oct 16th 2003 11:15 pm

Re: New procedure for AOS via NYC district office !? READ !!!
 
Hi! I'm actor Troy McClure. You may remember me from such threads as
'Re: New procedure for AOS via NYC district office !? READ !!!' and
'Matthew Udall: tasty but deadly.'

    >Marco, go read the blurb from AILA again. The local offices are not
    >“offloadingâ€? their new I-485 cases. They do send these new cases to
    >the NBC for initial intake/processing and EAD and AP work (wonder how
    >this interplays with the new e-filing for EAD’s), but those cases will
    >get sent “backâ€? to the local offices for adjudication, and I’ll bet
    >they will be placed behind your case in line as far as getting the
    >interview goes.

Interesting... the blurb I saw said:

'After initial processing, the adjustment applications will be
returned to the local offices for interviews.'

So this seems a little ambiguous, I suppose. It doesn't state where
the *adjudication* will take place. Is *interview* synonymous with
*adjudication*?

Cheers,

Marco

Matthew Udall Oct 16th 2003 11:21 pm

Re: New procedure for AOS via NYC district office !? READ !!!
 

Originally posted by c
Hi! I'm actor Troy McClure. You may remember me from such threads as
'Re: New procedure for AOS via NYC district office !? READ !!!' and
'Matthew Udall: tasty but deadly.'

It doesn't state where
the *adjudication* will take place. Is *interview* synonymous with
*adjudication*?

Cheers,

Marco
Yes, usually.
By the way, I don’t know about being tasty, but I regularly clean my Browning Semi-Auto 12 gage shotgun even though I haven’t gone pheasant or dove hunting in years.

c Oct 17th 2003 3:19 pm

Re: New procedure for AOS via NYC district office !? READ !!!
 
Hi! I'm actor Troy McClure. You may remember me from such threads as
'Re: New procedure for AOS via NYC district office !? READ !!!' and
'Matthew Udall: tasty but deadly.'

    >> It doesn't state where
    >> the *adjudication* will take place. Is *interview* synonymous with
    >> *adjudication*?
    >Yes, usually.

OK, so what exactly is the point of sending AOS applications to NBC
then? How exactly does that speed up the process of "ultimately... the
whole [AOS] package?"

What exactly does MSC add to the AOS process other than a round trip
mail ticket for your application between the local office and NBC?

For example, I filed AOS Apr02 with NY BCIS. My latest EAD and AP
applications were forwarded to and processed by NBC. They seemed quite
capable of processing the EAD and AP despite the fact that my AOS app
is physically sitting in Federal Plaza collecting dust.

If the policy now is to send the whole AOS app to NBC, what exactly
are NBC doing with the AOS portion? Are they just processing EAD/AP
and then sending the AOS portion right back to the local office? Do
they do ANY processing on the AOS app at all? Data entry, IBIS checks,
fingerprinting, anything at all?

Very confused. I know it's all new to you too, but I'm hoping you may
be able to shed some light.

    >By the way, I don’t know about being tasty, but I regularly clean my
    >Browning Semi-Auto 12 gage shotgun even though I haven’t gone pheasant
    >or dove hunting in years.

Why bother when you have the ultimate weapon in American society -
command of the law? '-)

Marco


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