Mtravelkay

Pasha Patel wrote:

    > She can get spousal support / alimony if he divorces her and if judge
    > decides … other than that she cant just force USC to give money just
    > coz he signed affidavit of support unless there are public charges
    > involved …

If you read the I-864, it is not limited to "public charges".
It clearly says (near the signature section, i think) that the person is
liable for support at 125 percent of the poverty level.

I never claimed she could automatically get him to volunteer it, but
that is something any divorce attorney should be smart enough to show a
judge.

Andrew Defaria

lairdside wrote:

    > Originally posted by immatchua
    >> I think you are a
    > selfish person who should probably be put on the next plane home and I'm
    > quite serious.
    >> You are the classic example of what I referred to when
    > I said "people without good faith or intention".
    >> He probably feels
    > like a meal-card and thus his expression when you ask him for money.
    > Faniah,
    > PLEASE IGNORE THE TROLL.
    > Kindest regards,
    > Victoria.

I fail to see why you think that he was a troll. IMHO he seems to have a
point.

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lairdside wrote:

    > Originally posted by Wayne
    >> if you moved here for
    > love/marriage,.. the immigration status/$$ would not
    >> be an issue,..
    >> it is ok,.. you are not the first,..
    >> maybe,.. this is one example
    > why everyone here has so many rules/long waits
    >> for marriage-based
    > visas,..?
    > I disagree.
    > I married my husband in good faith with honest intentions.

IOW you married because of love.

    > I sacrificed profession, home, the works to move here to be with HIM.
    > I did not have any intentions of emmigrating to the US before meeting
    > him.

IOW you married because of love.

    > I uprooted myself and my daughter and we have now settled here and
    > completely rebuilt our lives from
    > scratch.

IOW you decided that you love this person enough to uproot your live and
your daughter's live to move here.

    > My life and my daughter's life are here now. I have friends, a home, a
    > job etc and have worked damm hard to make the transition.
    > Besides, I've sort of gotten to like it here as it turns out, I
    > consider this to be my HOME.
    > I don't want to have to return if my marriage fails, just because
    > someone wishes to remain does not mean
    > that they conspired for dishonest reasons to come here in the first
    > place IMHO.

I agree. However the OP's posting did not necessarily indicate that she
immigrated here for the same reasons that you did.
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lairdside

YES ANDREW.

.... and I wsn't taking the post personally - as being directed at myself silly.

I was using myself as an illustration that even though people marry for love that immigration CAN be an issue.

The poster generalised - not me.

Please read:    > Originally posted by Wayne
    >> if you moved here for
    > love/marriage,.. the immigration status/$$ would not
    >> be an issue,..

The poster did not specify that the OP moved here for the same reasons as myself.

They also did not contradict that notion.

Be more vague

lairdside

He has a point - under the correct circumstances.

He does not however have enough information IMHO to have reached the conclusions at which he has arrived.

That is why I posted the message to the OP.

She truly may be in a very difficult circumstance, many here have been quick to judge based on what may be a misconstrual of the situation.

Instead he abused this woman based on his perception of her motivations.

Be it on his head if she is innocent and he causes her further distress as a result of his harsh words when she came seeking help.

Pasha Patel

Agreed Mtravelkay,

I guess I didn’t oppose/offend your view at all…. Sorry if my post caused misunderstanding for you….

One thing I wonder about any board, how people easily judge others just by one single post? That’s how they do in real life too??? The original poster is frustrated and in confused / depress / helpless mental status …. That’s why she came to ask help on this board …. Sometimes when we are angry / tired / frustrated …we tell lot of things that we simply don’t mean …. We don’t even know the real condition / whole case … but people easily give their decision …

Anyone comes to ask help here with little bit of hope. About car and money …. Coz she is his wife and most wives want to express their rights over husbands … this is plain jealousy but nothing else I can see here … she is feeling insecure coz of given attention to Ex. Wife which is completely ok …. Rest of the post is just out of anger / frustration and failure trials to fix the problem ….

Well I should end up with this here …. Thanks everyone….Pasha

sdmansour

it is curious that the OP has not responded back even to the simple questions.

Leslie

There. That actually answers the question posed. Now was it really necessary to paint her as a complete strumpet?

Leslie

Ah Ha!! That also answers the queston posed! So which is it?

Leslie

True.

However, we are having fun fighting amongst ourselves.

Andrew Defaria

lairdside wrote:

    > He has a point - under the correct circumstances.
    > He does not however have enough information IMHO to have reached the
    > conclusions at which he has arrived.

Perhaps not, however that makes him no more of a troll than you or
anybody else.

    > That is why I posted the message to the OP.
    > She truly may be in a very difficult circumstance, many here have been
    > quick to judge based on what may be a misconstrual of the situation.

She is free to clarify any misconceptions.

    > Instead he abused this woman based on his perception of her motivations.

No abuse was shown so far.

    > Be it on his head if she is innocent and he causes her further
    > distress as a result of his harsh words when she came seeking help.

I rarely believe that abuse occurs from "harsh words". There is a good
chance that she used as harsh words back. I bet if we ask him he would
tell us of her "abuse" too. I'm not a big believer of "hurt feelings" =
"abuse". I'm more on the side of "sticks and stones may break my bones
but words will never hurt me".

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Andrew Defaria

Pasha Patel wrote:

    > One thing I wonder about any board, how people easily judge others
    > just by one single post?

Everybody judges and those who say they don't are lying. Additionally
some people express their opinions, others remain quiet. Many responded
judging based on what was said. Some additionally asked for
clarification. This is the process of communication, no?

    > That's how they do in real life too???

It is well known that people judge others everyday, be it in pose or in
person. In fact, in person, lots more things come into play. People
judge others based on appearance, race, even the clothes you chose to
wear today. What did you think such judgments were not being made?!?

    > The original poster is frustrated and in confused / depress / helpless
    > mental status .... That's why she
    > came to ask help on this board .... Sometimes when we are angry /
    > tired / frustrated ...we tell lot of things that we simply don't mean
    > ....

If somebody makes mistakes in their communication then they should own
them and clarify their position, no?

    > We don't even know the real condition / whole case ... but people
    > easily give their decision ...

Is that not what she was seeking? Sorry if some of our decisions are not
exactly what she wanted to hear.

    > Anyone comes to ask help here with little bit of hope. About car and
    > money .... Coz she is his wife and most wives want to express their
    > rights over husbands ...

That's the point. She does not have rights *over* her husband. She has
her own rights and nobody's rights trumps anothers.

    > this is plain jealousy but nothing else I can see here ...

Which is bad.

    > she is feeling insecure coz of given attention to Ex. Wife which is
    > completely ok ....

Not really. She should be secure in her own life instead of surcuming to
insecurity and jealously. Such things ruin relationships, as is
apparently happening in her case. I would not describe such behavior
and/or feelings as "ok" rather "worrisome".

    > Rest of the post is just out of anger / frustration and failure trials
    > to fix the problem ....

Sometimes the result of acting out of anger and frustration based on
hurt feelings and things like insecurity and jealously turns out to be
illegal. If not illegal it rarely turns out to be good.

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lairdside

No time to play today Andy.

I accept that you adhere to the "sticks and stones" theory.

Suffice to say I disagree with you on that one. I would of course as I'm a graduate psychology student..lol


Hell, they can do what they want to - I was trying to mitigate the effect of the post that was all.

Laters - place wouldn't be the same with out you!

lairdside

I'm off to fight with about 4 feet of snow!!!!

Pasha Patel

Andrew …

I really don’t know much about you coz I m a new member on this board ….but Lets get this one to the end …..


Everybody judges and those who say they don't are lying. Additionally
some people express their opinions, others remain quiet. Many responded
judging based on what was said. Some additionally asked for
clarification. This is the process of communication, no?

It is well known that people judge others everyday, be it in pose or in
person. In fact, in person, lots more things come into play. People
judge others based on appearance, race, even the clothes you chose to
wear today. What did you think such judgments were not being made?!?

Ohh really? Well I must say …. U got to look into situation deeply …before making such judgment … people can assume about something / someone in routine life but when there is something serious in life called marriage / more than 12 hrs contact each day with only one person … u just don’t look at things the same way u go to coffee shop or some club and meet people… u get my point here? if not ask me … I shall explain you in details ….

there are other ways of communication ...that you can nicely ask about more information rather than just give your prejudices based on one post only ... is that how you really do in real life? if yes then i really feel sorry....

That's the point. She does not have rights *over* her husband. She has
her own rights and nobody's rights trumps anothers.

Then you really don’t know much about women’s psychology … I would advise you to look into this little bit more and then come over this thread to put your points …. That’s what you think here …. There are lots of immigrants in USA and you don’t know each and every culture …and how women feel about it in different cultures …. This is something called cultural shock …who knows may be her husband belongs to the same ethnicity???? do we really know about that ? we don’t… so we need to apply our breaks before giving any judgment right a way …. That’s not a healthy / intelligent thing a reasonable person would do …. Everyone needs little bit of time to adjust to new environment ….

Which is bad.

Ohh well read my previous paragraph … if u can get something out of it …. Its really good …. Otherwise I shall be happy to explain you this one in details …


Sometimes the result of acting out of anger and frustration based on
hurt feelings and things like insecurity and jealously turns out to be
illegal. If not illegal it rarely turns out to be good.

The way I see your replies on this board … dear friend … u r not saint and plz don’t expect others to be saint either … try to look at life with reality …and then you should understand each and every phases of life …. This is totally ok … there is nothing wrong … when he got married to her … he did commit certain vows and respect towards her ….and any single girl would react like this in this kinda situation …. Ohh well well unless she is exception ….

And I should leave ur own slogan here for you …have a great day…. from Pasha

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