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Old Mar 31st 2003, 4:01 pm
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Hi everybody,
I recently read all the old posts for letters of intent. I have
decided to include a letter from myself (u.s. citizen) and my fiance
(chilean citizen) in my i-129f packet. I have found a format online
to use for my letter as a u.s. citizen.
(here:http://www.weslow.net/users/alixtcat/i129list.htm)

But unfortunately it does not list a form in which my fiance should
write her letter. It is a little confusing. If anyone knowledgeable
about this subject could please post an example of what she should
write it would be much appreciated. (please do not send me broken
links-sorry to gripe but it happens too often)

This newsgroup is awesome, I dont know how I would have gotten
organized without it.

Thanks
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Old Mar 31st 2003, 4:13 pm
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We decided the content of the letter together, then each wrote one.


"Darrell24" wrote in message
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    > Hi everybody,
    > I recently read all the old posts for letters of intent. I have
    > decided to include a letter from myself (u.s. citizen) and my fiance
    > (chilean citizen) in my i-129f packet. I have found a format online
    > to use for my letter as a u.s. citizen.
    > (here:http://www.weslow.net/users/alixtcat/i129list.htm)
    > But unfortunately it does not list a form in which my fiance should
    > write her letter. It is a little confusing. If anyone knowledgeable
    > about this subject could please post an example of what she should
    > write it would be much appreciated. (please do not send me broken
    > links-sorry to gripe but it happens too often)
    > This newsgroup is awesome, I dont know how I would have gotten
    > organized without it.
    > Thanks
    > [email protected]
 
Old Apr 1st 2003, 12:11 am
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Just write a formal letter addressed to BCIS.
They are looking for the intent to meet the criteria like "the intent to get
married within 90 days" etc...
They will not approve it if you don't meet those requirements.


"Darrell24" wrote in message
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    > Hi everybody,
    > I recently read all the old posts for letters of intent. I have
    > decided to include a letter from myself (u.s. citizen) and my fiance
    > (chilean citizen) in my i-129f packet. I have found a format online
    > to use for my letter as a u.s. citizen.
    > (here:http://www.weslow.net/users/alixtcat/i129list.htm)
    > But unfortunately it does not list a form in which my fiance should
    > write her letter. It is a little confusing. If anyone knowledgeable
    > about this subject could please post an example of what she should
    > write it would be much appreciated. (please do not send me broken
    > links-sorry to gripe but it happens too often)
    > This newsgroup is awesome, I dont know how I would have gotten
    > organized without it.
    > Thanks
    > [email protected]
 
Old Apr 1st 2003, 1:03 am
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My then-fiance, now husband just wrote a few sentences in Spanish about swearing he'll get married within the 90 days and then faxed it to me, I in turn had a friend proved the translated version and presented that to INS, no problems. We did work out the letter before hand. Acutally I typed it out faxed it to him, he wrote it out, signed it and faxed it back to me.
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Old Apr 1st 2003, 1:05 am
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We opted to write a joint letter, both signed it and dated it.

It traced how we met, how we've been visiting each other constantly, and how we plan to marry within 90 days of my arrival in the country with my K1 visa. We outlined how we'd met families, friends, and all that jazz. It served as both an answer to the "how you met" question, AND our intent.

I was told this was sufficient.

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Old Apr 1st 2003, 2:33 pm
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My fiance and I sat down and wrote our "letters" together. We wrote mine
first, in English, and then we wrote basically the same thing in his native
language. It included how we met, how long we've known each other, how we kept
in touch, dates we saw each other, and our intent to marry in the US because
all of my family is there. We stated that our intent is to marry as soon as he
gets to the states and reside permanently in the US. The letters were not
formal, just a one-page account of the above, handwritten, signed and dated.
My immigration lawyer said these were acceptable.
Hope that helps!
 
Old Apr 1st 2003, 2:56 pm
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Your intent should be to get married WITHIN 90 DAYS. That is a requirement.

Why should you create a suspicion for INS?
They love to mess up with you.




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    > My fiance and I sat down and wrote our "letters" together. We wrote mine
    > first, in English, and then we wrote basically the same thing in his
native
    > language. It included how we met, how long we've known each other, how we
kept
    > in touch, dates we saw each other, and our intent to marry in the US
because
    > all of my family is there. We stated that our intent is to marry as soon
as he
    > gets to the states and reside permanently in the US. The letters were not
    > formal, just a one-page account of the above, handwritten, signed and
dated.
    > My immigration lawyer said these were acceptable.
    > Hope that helps!
 
Old Apr 1st 2003, 6:29 pm
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    > Just write a formal letter addressed to BCIS.
    > They are looking for the intent to meet the criteria like "the intent to
get
    > married within 90 days" etc...
    > They will not approve it if you don't meet those requirements.

Janette just hand wrote hers and addressed it to "To whom it may concern." I
hope that is okay. Also, she did state her intention to marry me but did not
mention "within 90 days." I hope this doesn't cause us any problems.

Any ideas from anyone?
 
Old Apr 1st 2003, 6:37 pm
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    > Your intent should be to get married WITHIN 90 DAYS. That is a
requirement.

Oh crud. I wrote "within 90 days" in my letter but Janette did not in hers.
She simply said that she wants to marry me but did not mention within 90
days. The instructions do not say to that you must mention that. They simply
say that the letters should establish mutual intent.
 
Old Apr 2nd 2003, 12:13 am
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My reading of the forms was that intent to marry *within 90 days* is a mandatory criteria for I-129F, so Dekka and I each included the phrase within our letters of intent. Intent to marry alone is enough because intent to marry within 91 days, or 6 months, doesn't qualify you for I-129F which is good for only 90.

Section 5B of the I-129F Instruction section (What Documents Do You Need to Prove You Can Legally Marry) states:

"Original statements of your intent from you and your fiance(e) who you plan to marry within 90 days of his/her admission, and copies of any evidence you wish to submit to establish your mutual intent"

I have no idea how BCIS handles letters that don't have the boilerplate phrase in them where there isn't independent evidence of the 90 day requirement (I don't know what that could be, because you have no way of knowing when a visa will be issued so cannot send a booking contract for a church or reception hall, for example). Other attorneys doing immigration law would know, I suspect.

To me, the above instruction is ambiguous. And normal, non bureacratic people have a cogent argument that a normal person wouldn't even file for an I-129F if they didn't intend to marry within 90 days. But from the government's perspective, people file incorrect forms for benefits they are not entitled to all the time, so who knows if "normal person's logic" will be followed by the adjudicator.

Given the ambiguity, the impact of a lack of evidence on the "90-day" issue might end up simply decided being at the whim of the adjudicator who you draw.
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Why do you need a format. Just write a simple letter with a minimum of three sentences telling about your future plans for a life together. Include reference to your anticipated wedding which will occur within 90 days of her entry into the US on a K-1.

That aside, you already found what you were looking for on someone else's site and that form can be used by both of you. Just change the names. She talks about you and you talk about her. Nothing complicated here ;-)

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Originally posted by Darrell24
Hi everybody,
I recently read all the old posts for letters of intent. I have
decided to include a letter from myself (u.s. citizen) and my fiance
(chilean citizen) in my i-129f packet. I have found a format online
to use for my letter as a u.s. citizen.
(here:http://www.weslow.net/users/alixtcat/i129list.htm)

But unfortunately it does not list a form in which my fiance should
write her letter. It is a little confusing. If anyone knowledgeable
about this subject could please post an example of what she should
write it would be much appreciated. (please do not send me broken
links-sorry to gripe but it happens too often)

This newsgroup is awesome, I dont know how I would have gotten
organized without it.

Thanks
[email protected]
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Old Apr 2nd 2003, 1:45 am
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As I've said, we should not give any clues or chances for the INS to mess
up.
How hard is it to put the intend to marry within 90 days in there?



"Dekka's Angel" wrote in message
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    > My reading of the forms was that intent to marry *within 90 days* is a
    > mandatory criteria for I-129F, so Dekka and I each included the phrase
    > within our letters of intent. Intent to marry alone is enough because
    > intent to marry within 91 days, or 6 months, doesn't qualify you for
    > I-129F which is good for only 90.
    > Section 5B of the I-129F Instruction section (What Documents Do You Need
    > to Prove You Can Legally Marry) states:
    > "Original statements of your intent from you and your fiance(e) who you
    > plan to marry within 90 days of his/her admission, and copies of any
    > evidence you wish to submit to establish your mutual intent"
    > I have no idea how BCIS handles letters that don't have the boilerplate
    > phrase in them where there isn't independent evidence of the 90 day
    > requirement (I don't know what that could be, because you have no way of
    > knowing when a visa will be issued so cannot send a booking contract for
    > a church or reception hall, for example). Other attorneys doing
    > immigration law would know, I suspect.
    > To me, the above instruction is ambiguous. And normal, non bureacratic
    > people have a cogent argument that a normal person wouldn't even file
    > for an I-129F if they didn't intend to marry within 90 days. But from
    > the government's perspective, people file incorrect forms for benefits
    > they are not entitled to all the time, so who knows if "normal person's
    > logic" will be followed by the adjudicator.
    > Given the ambiguity, the impact of a lack of evidence on the "90-day"
    > issue might end up simply decided being at the whim of the adjudicator
    > who you draw.
    > --
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Old Apr 2nd 2003, 1:47 am
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JUST A COUPLE SIMPLE SENTENCE to meet the requirement.

Remember! The intent of the letter mainly is to show your intent to marry
within 90 days. That's one of the requirements for I129F petition.


"Rete" wrote in message
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    > Why do you need a format. Just write a simple letter with a minimum of
    > three sentences telling about your future plans for a life together.
    > Include reference to your anticipated wedding which will occur within 90
    > days of her entry into the US on a K-1.
    > That aside, you already found what you were looking for on someone
    > else's site and that form can be used by both of you. Just change the
    > names. She talks about you and you talk about her. Nothing
    > complicated here ;-)
    > Rete
    > Originally posted by Darrell24
    > > Hi everybody,
    > > I recently read all the old posts for letters of intent. I have
    > > decided to include a letter from myself (u.s. citizen) and my fiance
    > > (chilean citizen) in my i-129f packet. I have found a format online
    > > to use for my letter as a u.s. citizen.
    > > (here:http://www.weslow.net/users/alixtcat/i129list.htm)
    > >
    > > But unfortunately it does not list a form in which my fiance should
    > > write her letter. It is a little confusing. If anyone knowledgeable
    > > about this subject could please post an example of what she should
    > > write it would be much appreciated. (please do not send me broken
    > > links-sorry to gripe but it happens too often)
    > >
    > > This newsgroup is awesome, I dont know how I would have gotten
    > > organized without it.
    > >
    > > Thanks
    > [email protected]
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
 
Old Apr 2nd 2003, 2:15 am
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Doh! rete said that.


"Calderon" wrote in message
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    > JUST A COUPLE SIMPLE SENTENCE to meet the requirement.
    > Remember! The intent of the letter mainly is to show your intent to marry
    > within 90 days. That's one of the requirements for I129F petition.
    > "Rete" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > Why do you need a format. Just write a simple letter with a minimum of
    > > three sentences telling about your future plans for a life together.
    > > Include reference to your anticipated wedding which will occur within 90
    > > days of her entry into the US on a K-1.
    > >
    > > That aside, you already found what you were looking for on someone
    > > else's site and that form can be used by both of you. Just change the
    > > names. She talks about you and you talk about her. Nothing
    > > complicated here ;-)
    > >
    > > Rete
    > >
    > > Originally posted by Darrell24
    > > > Hi everybody,
    > > > I recently read all the old posts for letters of intent. I have
    > > > decided to include a letter from myself (u.s. citizen) and my fiance
    > > > (chilean citizen) in my i-129f packet. I have found a format online
    > > > to use for my letter as a u.s. citizen.
    > > > (here:http://www.weslow.net/users/alixtcat/i129list.htm)
    > > >
    > > > But unfortunately it does not list a form in which my fiance should
    > > > write her letter. It is a little confusing. If anyone knowledgeable
    > > > about this subject could please post an example of what she should
    > > > write it would be much appreciated. (please do not send me broken
    > > > links-sorry to gripe but it happens too often)
    > > >
    > > > This newsgroup is awesome, I dont know how I would have gotten
    > > > organized without it.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks
    > > [email protected]
    > >
    > > --
    > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
 
Old Apr 2nd 2003, 4:06 am
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"Dekka's Angel" wrote in message
    > Section 5B of the I-129F Instruction section (What Documents Do You Need
    > to Prove You Can Legally Marry) states:
    > "Original statements of your intent from you and your fiance(e) who you
    > plan to marry within 90 days of his/her admission, and copies of any
    > evidence you wish to submit to establish your mutual intent"

It says "your fiance(e) who you plan to marry within 90 days." It doesn't
say anything about including that phrase on your letter. I included it in my
letter but Janette did not. I sure hope it's not a problem.

    > To me, the above instruction is ambiguous. And normal, non bureacratic
    > people have a cogent argument that a normal person wouldn't even file
    > for an I-129F if they didn't intend to marry within 90 days. But from

This is what I am assuming but I'm a bit worried, dreading and RFE.

    > Given the ambiguity, the impact of a lack of evidence on the "90-day"
    > issue might end up simply decided being at the whim of the adjudicator
    > who you draw.

Yup, luck of the draw.

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