Joint sponsor RFE - birth certificate but no passport
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Joint sponsor RFE - birth certificate but no passport
Hello all. So following the interview we were finally able to find a joint sponsor. I sent the documents to the US embassy, including a copy of the sponsor's birth certificate as proof of US citizenship.
I have now received a RFE via email asking for a copy of the sponsor's passport. However, she does not have a passport, only birth certificate. The I-864 instructions state that there is an option between birth certificate, passport, citizenship certificate or green card as proof.
The birth certificate copy I submitted is clear and legible so I'm at a loss with what is going on here.
I have now received a RFE via email asking for a copy of the sponsor's passport. However, she does not have a passport, only birth certificate. The I-864 instructions state that there is an option between birth certificate, passport, citizenship certificate or green card as proof.
The birth certificate copy I submitted is clear and legible so I'm at a loss with what is going on here.
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Re: Joint sponsor RFE - birth certificate but no passport
Hello all. So following the interview we were finally able to find a joint sponsor. I sent the documents to the US embassy, including a copy of the sponsor's birth certificate as proof of US citizenship.
I have now received a RFE via email asking for a copy of the sponsor's passport. However, she does not have a passport, only birth certificate. The I-864 instructions state that there is an option between birth certificate, passport, citizenship certificate or green card as proof.
The birth certificate copy I submitted is clear and legible so I'm at a loss with what is going on here.
I have now received a RFE via email asking for a copy of the sponsor's passport. However, she does not have a passport, only birth certificate. The I-864 instructions state that there is an option between birth certificate, passport, citizenship certificate or green card as proof.
The birth certificate copy I submitted is clear and legible so I'm at a loss with what is going on here.
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Re: Joint sponsor RFE - birth certificate but no passport
Thank you. Unfortunately, when I replied to the email (from [email protected]) with an explanation, they immediately sent the same request, word for word.
"Please scan and submit a copy of the passport of your joint sponsor to the electronic documents.
Please reply to this email once its complete."
Here is what I sent previous to that...
"Please note that the joint sponsor was only able to provide her birth certificate as proof of US citizenship, which I have attached."
"Please scan and submit a copy of the passport of your joint sponsor to the electronic documents.
Please reply to this email once its complete."
Here is what I sent previous to that...
"Please note that the joint sponsor was only able to provide her birth certificate as proof of US citizenship, which I have attached."
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Re: Joint sponsor RFE - birth certificate but no passport
Thank you. Unfortunately, when I replied to the email (from [email protected]) with an explanation, they immediately sent the same request, word for word.
"Please scan and submit a copy of the passport of your joint sponsor to the electronic documents.
Please reply to this email once its complete."
Here is what I sent previous to that...
"Please note that the joint sponsor was only able to provide her birth certificate as proof of US citizenship, which I have attached."
"Please scan and submit a copy of the passport of your joint sponsor to the electronic documents.
Please reply to this email once its complete."
Here is what I sent previous to that...
"Please note that the joint sponsor was only able to provide her birth certificate as proof of US citizenship, which I have attached."
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Re: Joint sponsor RFE - birth certificate but no passport
Thank you. Unfortunately, when I replied to the email (from [email protected]) with an explanation, they immediately sent the same request, word for word.
"Please scan and submit a copy of the passport of your joint sponsor to the electronic documents.
Please reply to this email once its complete."
Here is what I sent previous to that...
"Please note that the joint sponsor was only able to provide her birth certificate as proof of US citizenship, which I have attached."
"Please scan and submit a copy of the passport of your joint sponsor to the electronic documents.
Please reply to this email once its complete."
Here is what I sent previous to that...
"Please note that the joint sponsor was only able to provide her birth certificate as proof of US citizenship, which I have attached."
"Was only able to provide her birth certificate. " does not necessarily mean the same thing as "does not have a passport". Your reply leaves open the possibility that she couldn't find her passport, that the dog chewed it, etc.
Your reply needs to state, with minimal other wording "The joint sponsor does not have a passport."
If you really want to ram the point home, add "I cannot provide a copy of something that does not exist." .... Which is what I would do.
Last edited by Pulaski; Apr 25th 2023 at 6:20 pm.
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Re: Joint sponsor RFE - birth certificate but no passport
I don't know. I don't want to get too cocky. They basically have a big part of my life in their hands.
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Good luck in processing your application to the next stage.
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Thanks mate. I'm increasingly losing patience. It's been keeping me up nights and, in my mind at least, the most frustrating thing about it is I could easily support myself and my wife right now if I was over there. I'll see what hoops I have to jump through tomorrow.
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Thanks mate. I'm increasingly losing patience. It's been keeping me up nights and, in my mind at least, the most frustrating thing about it is I could easily support myself and my wife right now if I was over there. I'll see what hoops I have to jump through tomorrow.
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Re: Joint sponsor RFE - birth certificate but no passport
Thank you. Unfortunately, when I replied to the email (from [email protected]) with an explanation, they immediately sent the same request, word for word.
"Please scan and submit a copy of the passport of your joint sponsor to the electronic documents.
Please reply to this email once its complete."
Here is what I sent previous to that...
"Please note that the joint sponsor was only able to provide her birth certificate as proof of US citizenship, which I have attached."
"Please scan and submit a copy of the passport of your joint sponsor to the electronic documents.
Please reply to this email once its complete."
Here is what I sent previous to that...
"Please note that the joint sponsor was only able to provide her birth certificate as proof of US citizenship, which I have attached."
First, no one here has seen the document you submitted. It may be deficient in some respect.
Second, the general submission portal may have been reviewed by a staff member, not a Consular Officer. If the document submitted is correct, there may be procedures to get the submission examined by a consular officer. When I was in practice, a telephone conversation between the attorney (me) and the ConOff often worked wonders. (On more than one occasion, my specific case lead to change of general staff practices of which the ConOffs had been unaware.)
Good luck.
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Re: Joint sponsor RFE - birth certificate but no passport
The one I submitted is the long form type, full letter size with a visible raised seal.
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Re: Joint sponsor RFE - birth certificate but no passport
Several thoughts.
First, no one here has seen the document you submitted. It may be deficient in some respect.
Second, the general submission portal may have been reviewed by a staff member, not a Consular Officer. If the document submitted is correct, there may be procedures to get the submission examined by a consular officer. When I was in practice, a telephone conversation between the attorney (me) and the ConOff often worked wonders. (On more than one occasion, my specific case lead to change of general staff practices of which the ConOffs had been unaware.)
Good luck.
First, no one here has seen the document you submitted. It may be deficient in some respect.
Second, the general submission portal may have been reviewed by a staff member, not a Consular Officer. If the document submitted is correct, there may be procedures to get the submission examined by a consular officer. When I was in practice, a telephone conversation between the attorney (me) and the ConOff often worked wonders. (On more than one occasion, my specific case lead to change of general staff practices of which the ConOffs had been unaware.)
Good luck.
Out of interest, how were you able to get a direct line to the ConOff? Is that something generally granted to attorneys?
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They may be being pedantic, but it could be you have not sent a copy of a birth certificate. Your sponsor should be able to apply for a new one. I got 3 additional ones after my sons were born so I would have some spares for any future use. Does the document you submitted actually say “Birth Certificate” on it and is it printed on special paper or just plain white paper ?
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I am retired and I am not up on current procedures. Access to consular officers can vary a lot. Also, ConOff A may be accessible, but then rotates stateside and replacement ConOff B will be inaccessible. And, yes, telephonic access was for attorneys if it was available. Generally it was necessary to make an appointment via fax, said call to be made at the opening of business before applicants reached the window. Calling European consulates was in the middle of the night Pacific time while calls to Asia was before going home a little late and making the call at the end of my day.