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Old Jan 8th 2004, 1:01 pm
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Ok if this amnesty thing passes does it include amnesty to k1 visa
grantees
My Wife Lied blantly lied on all applications to get tpo the US she
stated she was never married and she was, and never got divorced in
the Philippines, She stated she had no kids and she
does............... I am trying to get an Anulment in the state of
Alabama or at the least a divorce - she got her green card (2yr)
packed up and left me with an empty home and a broken spririt- I have
reported all this to BCIS so my question no wis after commiting a
blantent Fraud by lying on applications to get here will seh be
allowed to stay
 
Old Jan 8th 2004, 1:44 pm
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John,

Maybe she will be allowed to stay.

Maybe not.

The current Bush proposal is not applicable - your wife is not an undocumented (or illegal, if you prefer the term) alien.

Regards, JEff


Originally posted by John
Ok if this amnesty thing passes does it include amnesty to k1 visa
grantees
My Wife Lied blantly lied on all applications to get tpo the US she
stated she was never married and she was, and never got divorced in
the Philippines, She stated she had no kids and she
does............... I am trying to get an Anulment in the state of
Alabama or at the least a divorce - she got her green card (2yr)
packed up and left me with an empty home and a broken spririt- I have
reported all this to BCIS so my question no wis after commiting a
blantent Fraud by lying on applications to get here will seh be
allowed to stay
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Old Jan 8th 2004, 1:52 pm
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Originally posted by John
Ok if this amnesty thing passes does it include amnesty to k1 visa
grantees
My Wife Lied blantly lied on all applications to get tpo the US she
stated she was never married and she was, and never got divorced in
the Philippines, She stated she had no kids and she
does............... I am trying to get an Anulment in the state of
Alabama or at the least a divorce - she got her green card (2yr)
packed up and left me with an empty home and a broken spririt- I have
reported all this to BCIS so my question no wis after commiting a
blantent Fraud by lying on applications to get here will seh be
allowed to stay
Hi:

Please note that it is a PROPOSAL. It has not gone through Congress yet. It may or it may not. If it does, it will be extensively amended. There will be typographical errors in it. [Most major legistlation is usually followed by a "Technical Corrections" bill at a later time].

And then the law of unintended consequences kicks in.

For your individual case, you have already done what you can do. Get that nullity or divorce and move on. I know its easier said than done, but that is what is best for YOU.
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Old Jan 8th 2004, 3:23 pm
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John wrote:

    > Ok if this amnesty thing passes does it include amnesty to k1 visa
    > grantees My Wife Lied blantly lied on all applications to get tpo the
    > US she stated she was never married and she was, and never got
    > divorced in the Philippines, She stated she had no kids and she
    > does............... I am trying to get an Anulment in the state of
    > Alabama or at the least a divorce - she got her green card (2yr)
    > packed up and left me with an empty home and a broken spririt- I have
    > reported all this to BCIS so my question no wis after commiting a
    > blantent Fraud by lying on applications to get here will seh be
    > allowed to stay

Sorry to hear that you were used but I doubt that you are trying to
complain that you were also totally unaware of the fact that she was
married and had kids. Assuming you were aware of this (otherwise I'd
love to hear how she keep these things from you for 2 years!) then you
are a partner in her crime of fraud are you not? Are you ready for the
possible $250K fine and possible 5 years of jail time?

If what you say is true, that she was still married, and assuming you
have evidence of this then getting an anullment should be a piece of
cake for you. If you get the marriage annulled then she would have
nothing to adjust status on.

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Old Jan 8th 2004, 3:34 pm
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This isn't the first time that John's posted this; he was defrauded too.

Andy.

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"Andrew DeFaria" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > John wrote:
    > > Ok if this amnesty thing passes does it include amnesty to k1 visa
    > > grantees My Wife Lied blantly lied on all applications to get tpo the
    > > US she stated she was never married and she was, and never got
    > > divorced in the Philippines, She stated she had no kids and she
    > > does............... I am trying to get an Anulment in the state of
    > > Alabama or at the least a divorce - she got her green card (2yr)
    > > packed up and left me with an empty home and a broken spririt- I have
    > > reported all this to BCIS so my question no wis after commiting a
    > > blantent Fraud by lying on applications to get here will seh be
    > > allowed to stay
    > Sorry to hear that you were used but I doubt that you are trying to
    > complain that you were also totally unaware of the fact that she was
    > married and had kids. Assuming you were aware of this (otherwise I'd
    > love to hear how she keep these things from you for 2 years!) then you
    > are a partner in her crime of fraud are you not? Are you ready for the
    > possible $250K fine and possible 5 years of jail time?
    > If what you say is true, that she was still married, and assuming you
    > have evidence of this then getting an anullment should be a piece of
    > cake for you. If you get the marriage annulled then she would have
    > nothing to adjust status on.
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Old Jan 8th 2004, 4:38 pm
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From: [email protected] (John)
Date: Thu, Jan 8, 2004 6:01 AM
Message-id: <[email protected] >

Ok if this amnesty thing passes does it include amnesty to k1 visa
grantees
My Wife Lied blantly lied on all applications to get tpo the US she
stated she was never married and she was, and never got divorced in
the Philippines, She stated she had no kids and she
does............... I am trying to get an Anulment in the state of
Alabama or at the least a divorce - she got her green card (2yr)
packed up and left me with an empty home and a broken spririt- I have
reported all this to BCIS so my question no wis after commiting a
blantent Fraud by lying on applications to get here will seh be
allowed to stay



Didn't she have to present a "Certificate Of No Marriage" along with her
application in Manila?
The embassy there does their own independent check.
 
Old Jan 8th 2004, 6:16 pm
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Old Jan 8th 2004, 6:41 pm
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For those interested check OP's history. Thought this looked familiar.
 
Old Jan 8th 2004, 6:58 pm
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Vamp,

Pretty soon the tailors will catch on and start bombarding us with offers to let out our trousers...

Regards, JEff

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Old Jan 8th 2004, 7:24 pm
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    > The current Bush proposal is not applicable - your wife is not an
    > undocumented (or illegal, if you prefer the term) alien.

The current Bush proposal covers "temporary worker visas" which potentially
any foreigner is eligible for, not just current illegal immigrants.
Considering that evolutionary changes are easier than revolutionary ones, I
suspect that those in status will be allowed to simply change status, and
those out of status would have to pay an extra fee to AOS, or perhaps have
to depart and obtain a visa, and pay an extra fee to have the 3/10 year bar
waived.

In the previous 245i semi-amnesties, K entrants were specifically barred
from using 245i to AOS. I suspect the policy will remain the same.

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Old Jan 8th 2004, 7:26 pm
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If she already has her green card, she doesn't need an amnesty or a visa.
She's already here legally, unless USCIS decides to revoke it.

Paulgani

"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Ok if this amnesty thing passes does it include amnesty to k1 visa
    > grantees
    > My Wife Lied blantly lied on all applications to get tpo the US she
    > stated she was never married and she was, and never got divorced in
    > the Philippines, She stated she had no kids and she
    > does............... I am trying to get an Anulment in the state of
    > Alabama or at the least a divorce - she got her green card (2yr)
    > packed up and left me with an empty home and a broken spririt- I have
    > reported all this to BCIS so my question no wis after commiting a
    > blantent Fraud by lying on applications to get here will seh be
    > allowed to stay
 
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Originally posted by Paul Gani
The current Bush proposal covers "temporary worker visas" which potentially
any foreigner is eligible for, not just current illegal immigrants.
Hi Paul,
While lying in bed last night waiting for the sand man to clobber me over the head, I started to wonder about the new proposals. You are an employer, so I’m interested in hearing what you think.

It seems the employer is going to have to go through some steps and document the fact that there are no U.S. workers willing to take the position. I would also assume that if an employer hires someone under the new scheme, they will have to pay workman’s comp, SSI, and perhaps offer a certain minimum wage (instead of cash under the table as I’m sure some employers have done up until now).

This might be great for the workers, but won’t the employer have the same motivation as they always have had in finding someone willing to work under the table, for less pay (than some guaranteed minimum standard), without benefits, etc? In other words, do you think potential employees under the new system will be less attractive candidates?

If so, than maybe they will need to put “more teeth� into the sanctions against employers who continue to hire undocumented aliens under the table.

Also, if the employer hires workers under a new program as suggested, won’t that drive up the cost of doing business?

What do you think?
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Old Jan 8th 2004, 7:54 pm
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Paul,

Why whould an alien who is already in status want to switch to the proposed new 'temporary worker' status? 3 years and then either leave or extend for another 3 years and then leave...

This is one of the things in the proposal that the advocacy groups find fault with - by applying for the new status an undocumented alien is potentially signing up to be sent home in 3-6 years.

The proposed new status doesn't offer any route to PR status that isn't already available under current law to an alien who is in status. (It would, however open up those routes to an alien who is presently out of status.)

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"jeffreyhy" <member184@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    > The current Bush proposal is not applicable - your wife is not an
    > undocumented (or illegal, if you prefer the term) alien.

The current Bush proposal covers "temporary worker visas" which potentially
any foreigner is eligible for, not just current illegal immigrants.
Considering that evolutionary changes are easier than revolutionary ones, I
suspect that those in status will be allowed to simply change status, and
those out of status would have to pay an extra fee to AOS, or perhaps have
to depart and obtain a visa, and pay an extra fee to have the 3/10 year bar
waived.

In the previous 245i semi-amnesties, K entrants were specifically barred
from using 245i to AOS. I suspect the policy will remain the same.

Paulgani
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"jeffreyhy" <member184@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    > Why whould an alien who is already in status want to switch to the
    > proposed new 'temporary worker' status? 3 years and then either leave
    > or extend for another 3 years and then leave...

Well, this alien in status might be here on a B-2 due to expire soon, and
wants to stay.

I don't believe that this new status (basically, an H1B, without the
education requirements), would preclude the alien from AOS by say, marriage
to a USC.

Indeed the H1B is also 3 years, renewable once for another 3 years, then
requiring a departure of 1 year before being able to come back with another
H1B. The only difference is that the quotas for skilled workers is much
shorter than the quota for unskilled workers (15 years, I read), and that
skilled workers have a good chance of getting their employment GC before the
6 years is up.

I'm sure someone will come up with a reasonable solution to the 6 year/15
year conflict!

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