I-751 Separation and Divorce
Mar 17th 2004, 6:59 am
#46
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Re: I-751 Separation and Divorce
AGUILA wrote:
> I have a question for you, what does qualify for extreme mental
> cruelty, because you seem to be an expert in the field to determin
> what is not, so I would like to know from an expert like you what
> constitutes extreme mental cruelty.
I do not claim to be an expert - that'd your fodder. I've already said
what I think extreme mental cruelty - go find it.
> Secondly, Justice cannot self-petition (I-360) because he is already a
> CPR, self- petitioning is available to aliens that have no status at all.
My understanding is that he should be able to self-petition to get the
conditions of his status removed. In fact I believe instructions for
such self-petitioners are contained in the I-751 itself (didn't check it
though...)
> Perhaps Justice has already establish his life in the US, has a job,
> friends, and probably would be an extreme hardship to return to his
> home country.
Again with the word extreme. It is not an extreme hardship in that it is
not any more extreme than anybody else who immigrates, in this case back
home, to experience the lose of his job and friends. IOW it's a regular
hardship. I have read many BIA decisions that back that up. Perhaps you
should.
In the end it does not matter what you or I think is extreme hardship
(or extreme mental cruelty for that matter) but what the USCIS thinks
qualifies. Personally I don't think that your statement above qualifies
for extreme hardship nor do I think that Justice's cheating wife
qualifies for extreme mental cruelty. But hey, it's not my life nor my
situation. You and Justice can "go for it" if you like. Let's know how
you make out...
> I many times wonder why are you around this board, so far, I have only
> seen you criticizing people and telling them for what they do not
> qualify etc, the worst is that you write here as if you were some sort
> of Immigration authority or even worse some sort of
> psychological/psychiatric authority...
Well you're gonna just have to keep wondering...
> "You are just a jilted husband who is hurt and is trying to classify
> that hurt into "mental cruelty" so you can gain an immigration benefit."
> It is unbelievable who can you judge someone that you don't even know,
People judge others that they don't know each and every day. For
example, you are passing judgments about me. Hardly unbelievable.
Adjudicators, POE officers and consulates pass judgment without the
benefit of really knowing the person either. And in the end those are
the people that matter (for immigration issues).
> applying your retarded
[deleted] you too buddy! (Sorry but I consider your usage of retarded here
derogatory and insultive).
> thinking style I can conclude that you are very frustrated person to
> whom probably his wife/girlfriend has cheated on, have no friends, and
> is more miserable than Saddam Hussein.
Ah passing judgments seems to be something that you can do too. Big
deal. Well at least I'm not facing deportation. Everything else of your
imaginary world that you have invented for me will remain just that -
imaginary...
--
I used to have an open mind but my brains kept falling out.
> I have a question for you, what does qualify for extreme mental
> cruelty, because you seem to be an expert in the field to determin
> what is not, so I would like to know from an expert like you what
> constitutes extreme mental cruelty.
I do not claim to be an expert - that'd your fodder. I've already said
what I think extreme mental cruelty - go find it.
> Secondly, Justice cannot self-petition (I-360) because he is already a
> CPR, self- petitioning is available to aliens that have no status at all.
My understanding is that he should be able to self-petition to get the
conditions of his status removed. In fact I believe instructions for
such self-petitioners are contained in the I-751 itself (didn't check it
though...)
> Perhaps Justice has already establish his life in the US, has a job,
> friends, and probably would be an extreme hardship to return to his
> home country.
Again with the word extreme. It is not an extreme hardship in that it is
not any more extreme than anybody else who immigrates, in this case back
home, to experience the lose of his job and friends. IOW it's a regular
hardship. I have read many BIA decisions that back that up. Perhaps you
should.
In the end it does not matter what you or I think is extreme hardship
(or extreme mental cruelty for that matter) but what the USCIS thinks
qualifies. Personally I don't think that your statement above qualifies
for extreme hardship nor do I think that Justice's cheating wife
qualifies for extreme mental cruelty. But hey, it's not my life nor my
situation. You and Justice can "go for it" if you like. Let's know how
you make out...
> I many times wonder why are you around this board, so far, I have only
> seen you criticizing people and telling them for what they do not
> qualify etc, the worst is that you write here as if you were some sort
> of Immigration authority or even worse some sort of
> psychological/psychiatric authority...
Well you're gonna just have to keep wondering...
> "You are just a jilted husband who is hurt and is trying to classify
> that hurt into "mental cruelty" so you can gain an immigration benefit."
> It is unbelievable who can you judge someone that you don't even know,
People judge others that they don't know each and every day. For
example, you are passing judgments about me. Hardly unbelievable.
Adjudicators, POE officers and consulates pass judgment without the
benefit of really knowing the person either. And in the end those are
the people that matter (for immigration issues).
> applying your retarded
[deleted] you too buddy! (Sorry but I consider your usage of retarded here
derogatory and insultive).
> thinking style I can conclude that you are very frustrated person to
> whom probably his wife/girlfriend has cheated on, have no friends, and
> is more miserable than Saddam Hussein.
Ah passing judgments seems to be something that you can do too. Big
deal. Well at least I'm not facing deportation. Everything else of your
imaginary world that you have invented for me will remain just that -
imaginary...
--
I used to have an open mind but my brains kept falling out.
Mar 17th 2004, 8:43 am
#47
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Posts: 325
Re: I-751 Separation and Divorce
Andrew:
"I do not claim to be an expert - that'd your fodder. I've already said
what I think extreme mental cruelty - go find it."
I wrote 'you seem to be' not that you stated as if you were, anyways, you do write here as if you are an expert or were writing what USCIS considers for extreme mental cruelty applicants. I don't need to find anything, I know what extreme mental cruelty is not product of my thinking/opinions but rather for being a victim myself for talking to experts in the field with 25 years of experience handleling this type of cases.
"My understanding is that he should be able to self-petition to get the
conditions of his status removed. In fact I believe instructions for
such self-petitioners are contained in the I-751 itself (didn't check it
though...)"
So check before your write nonsense. Self-petitioning is something different, what Justice qualifies for is to apply for a ground for the waiver of the joint filing requirement on the I-751 Form.
"Again with the word extreme. It is not an extreme hardship in that it is
not any more extreme than anybody else who immigrates, in this case back
home, to experience the lose of his job and friends. IOW it's a regular
hardship. I have read many BIA decisions that back that up. Perhaps you
should."
I have also, I wasn't referring to what USCIS considers has 'extreme hardship' should I have, I would also have advised to file for that ground as well. Also BIA decisions mean squat because they could be reversed by Circuit Courts...
"In the end it does not matter what you or I think is extreme hardship
(or extreme mental cruelty for that matter) but what the USCIS thinks
qualifies. Personally I don't think that your statement above qualifies
for extreme hardship nor do I think that Justice's cheating wife
qualifies for extreme mental cruelty. But hey, it's not my life nor my
situation. You and Justice can "go for it" if you like. Let's know how
you make out..."
Finally, you write here something logical here, is USCIS who makes the determination and not an untrained individual like you, so please do us a favor and refrain yourself from telling others what USCIS will consider as mental cruelty...because as you have admitted is them who make the decision, and your opinion is worthless than a penny.
"Well you're gonna just have to keep wondering..."
I don't have to wonder, I know why come here, to take out your frustrations.
"People judge others that they don't know each and every day. For
example, you are passing judgments about me. Hardly unbelievable.
Adjudicators, POE officers and consulates pass judgment without the
benefit of really knowing the person either. And in the end those are
the people that matter (for immigration issues)."
That doesn't mean is RIGHT. I am passing judgments about you because you look for them. Adjudicators, POE officers and Consulate employees pass judgments based upon evidence presented and interviews...
"**** you too buddy! (Sorry but I consider your usage of retarded here
derogatory and insultive)."
I am not going to down to your level. If you can't take the heat then don't make judgments about others. Plain and simple.
"Ah passing judgments seems to be something that you can do too. Big
deal. Well at least I'm not facing deportation. Everything else of your
imaginary world that you have invented for me will remain just that -
imaginary..."
I am not nor does Justice face deportation. As I said before, I passed judgments just to see if you get a clue that your attituted sucks and you do not contribute with anything positive to this board.
"I do not claim to be an expert - that'd your fodder. I've already said
what I think extreme mental cruelty - go find it."
I wrote 'you seem to be' not that you stated as if you were, anyways, you do write here as if you are an expert or were writing what USCIS considers for extreme mental cruelty applicants. I don't need to find anything, I know what extreme mental cruelty is not product of my thinking/opinions but rather for being a victim myself for talking to experts in the field with 25 years of experience handleling this type of cases.
"My understanding is that he should be able to self-petition to get the
conditions of his status removed. In fact I believe instructions for
such self-petitioners are contained in the I-751 itself (didn't check it
though...)"
So check before your write nonsense. Self-petitioning is something different, what Justice qualifies for is to apply for a ground for the waiver of the joint filing requirement on the I-751 Form.
"Again with the word extreme. It is not an extreme hardship in that it is
not any more extreme than anybody else who immigrates, in this case back
home, to experience the lose of his job and friends. IOW it's a regular
hardship. I have read many BIA decisions that back that up. Perhaps you
should."
I have also, I wasn't referring to what USCIS considers has 'extreme hardship' should I have, I would also have advised to file for that ground as well. Also BIA decisions mean squat because they could be reversed by Circuit Courts...
"In the end it does not matter what you or I think is extreme hardship
(or extreme mental cruelty for that matter) but what the USCIS thinks
qualifies. Personally I don't think that your statement above qualifies
for extreme hardship nor do I think that Justice's cheating wife
qualifies for extreme mental cruelty. But hey, it's not my life nor my
situation. You and Justice can "go for it" if you like. Let's know how
you make out..."
Finally, you write here something logical here, is USCIS who makes the determination and not an untrained individual like you, so please do us a favor and refrain yourself from telling others what USCIS will consider as mental cruelty...because as you have admitted is them who make the decision, and your opinion is worthless than a penny.
"Well you're gonna just have to keep wondering..."
I don't have to wonder, I know why come here, to take out your frustrations.
"People judge others that they don't know each and every day. For
example, you are passing judgments about me. Hardly unbelievable.
Adjudicators, POE officers and consulates pass judgment without the
benefit of really knowing the person either. And in the end those are
the people that matter (for immigration issues)."
That doesn't mean is RIGHT. I am passing judgments about you because you look for them. Adjudicators, POE officers and Consulate employees pass judgments based upon evidence presented and interviews...
"**** you too buddy! (Sorry but I consider your usage of retarded here
derogatory and insultive)."
I am not going to down to your level. If you can't take the heat then don't make judgments about others. Plain and simple.
"Ah passing judgments seems to be something that you can do too. Big
deal. Well at least I'm not facing deportation. Everything else of your
imaginary world that you have invented for me will remain just that -
imaginary..."
I am not nor does Justice face deportation. As I said before, I passed judgments just to see if you get a clue that your attituted sucks and you do not contribute with anything positive to this board.
Mar 17th 2004, 10:21 am
#48
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Posts: n/a
Re: I-751 Separation and Divorce
AGUILA wrote:
> Andrew:
> "I do not claim to be an expert - that'd your fodder. I've already
> said what I think extreme mental cruelty - go find it."
> I wrote 'you seem to be' not that you stated as if you were,
And again I'm simply stating "I do not claim to be an expert" so what's
the problem? I'm clarifying your statement.
> anyways, you do write here as if you are an expert or were writing
> what USCIS considers for extreme mental cruelty applicants.
Aye and that's the rub as it were. That's the "your fodder" portion. I
do not claim to be an expert. If you wish to take my statements and make
them seem as if I am somehow claiming to be an expert then you are
engaging in your own fodder, one I have no control over.
> I don't need to find anything,
You asked for me to state something. I said I stated it already. If you
wish to see it (and, again, you seemed to indicate that you had an
interest) then you're gonna have to look it up. Either that or you need
to be content with not knowing. The choice is yours.
> I know what extreme mental cruelty is not product of my
> thinking/opinions but rather for being a victim myself for talking to
> experts in the field with 25 years of experience handleling this type
> of cases.
Then why did you ask me that question?
> "My understanding is that he should be able to self-petition to get
> the conditions of his status removed. In fact I believe instructions
> for such self-petitioners are contained in the I-751 itself (didn't
> check it though...)"
> So check before your write
Ah, sorry, but I'm busy. I have better things to do.
> nonsense. Self-petitioning is something different, what Justice
> qualifies for is to apply for a ground for the waiver of the joint
> filing requirement on the I-751 Form.
Whatever. OK, then why doesn't he just do that?
> "Again with the word extreme. It is not an extreme hardship in that it
> is not any more extreme than anybody else who immigrates, in this case
> back home, to experience the lose of his job and friends. IOW it's a
> regular
> hardship. I have read many BIA decisions that back that up. Perhaps
> you should."
> I have also, I wasn't referring to what USCIS considers has 'extreme
> hardship'
Ah duh, well how am I supposed to know. You state "extreme hardship" in
an immigration newsgroup in a thread about somebody who may have to go
home and have to show the USCIS form of extreme hardship don't cha think
I would be thinking USCIS extreme hardship and not your arbitrary
definition?!?
> should I have, I would also have advised to file for that ground as
> well. Also BIA decisions mean squat because they could be reversed by
> Circuit Courts...
Whatever dude, however extreme hardship as defined by and used by USCIS
and BIA is much more extreme than your proposed extreme hardship. The
BIA cases are *examples* of others who thought that extreme hardship was
merely hardship and that have been denied precisely because hardship
such as you described is not extreme at all under the eyes of the law,
USCIS and BIA. But hey it's your fire to play with. Have fun!
> "In the end it does not matter what you or I think is extreme hardship
> (or extreme mental cruelty for that matter) but what the USCIS thinks
> qualifies. Personally I don't think that your statement above
> qualifies for extreme hardship nor do I think that Justice's cheating
> wife qualifies for extreme mental cruelty. But hey, it's not my life
> nor my situation. You and Justice can "go for it" if you like. Let's
> know how you make out..."
> Finally, you write here something logical here,
Wrote many things logically before too. Perhaps you still haven't
figured them out.
> is USCIS who makes the determination and not an untrained individual
> like you, so please do us a favor and refrain yourself from telling
> others what USCIS will consider as mental cruelty...
Ah, no. Why should I? I have my opinion, just like everybody else does
here. Many if not most are not "trained professionals" nor immigration
attorneys and yet they offer up their untrained opinions. Hell we've
even commented many times about the trained professionals, lawyers and
the screwing things up royally. Why then should I listen to you and not
offer my own opinion? I'm sorry sir but your mere desire to squelch me
will not work.
> because as you have admitted is them who make the decision, and your
> opinion is worthless than a penny.
Nor is yours, yet you comment too.
> "Well you're gonna just have to keep wondering..."
> I don't have to wonder, I know why come here, to take out your
> frustrations.
OK, then you can come to your own unfounded conclusions. That's another
thing I have no control over. You seem to like to play in your own
imaginary sandbox - who am I to stop you?
> "People judge others that they don't know each and every day. For
> example, you are passing judgments
> about me. Hardly unbelievable. Adjudicators, POE officers and
> consulates pass judgment without the
> benefit of really knowing the person either. And in the end those are
> the people that matter (for immigration issues)."
> That doesn't mean is RIGHT.
And it doesn't mean it is wrong either.
> I am passing judgments about you because you look for them.
Oh so now your are reading my mind and making yet another invalid
assumption that I somehow are looking for judgments from you! Here's a
clue. I'm not!
> Adjudicators, POE officers and Consulate employees pass judgments
> based upon evidence presented and interviews...
Yes as are we, by the posters stated story as well as follow up by
asking questions for clarification. Still we don't really "know" that
poster just like the POE officer doesn't really "know" the person in
front of him aside from the information that he is given. He has not
spent months with the person, etc. Now you can say that the evidence
presented is perhaps of better quality than a post and that may be. Then
again parts of the evidence can be incomplete and or forged too.
> "**** you too buddy! (Sorry but I consider your usage of retarded here
> derogatory and insultive)."
> I am not going to down to your level. If you can't take the heat then
> don't make judgments about others. Plain and simple.
I did not choose to insult you first - you choose to insult me. So you
were already "down to my level" or rather I came down to your level to
insult you so that you might see how it feels.
> "Ah passing judgments seems to be something that you can do too. Big
> deal. Well at least I'm not
> facing deportation. Everything else of your imaginary world that you
> have invented for me will remain just that -
> imaginary..."
> I am not nor does Justice face deportation. As I said before, I passed
> judgments just to see if you get a clue that your attituted sucks and
> you do not contribute with anything positive to this board.
That sir is your opinion. You are welcome to it. I don't agree with it.
Your efforts to make me agree with it has failed. Let's move on now.
--
A friend of mine is into Voodoo Acupuncture. You don't have to go.
You'll just be walking down the street, and...........ooooohhhhhh,
that's much better...
> Andrew:
> "I do not claim to be an expert - that'd your fodder. I've already
> said what I think extreme mental cruelty - go find it."
> I wrote 'you seem to be' not that you stated as if you were,
And again I'm simply stating "I do not claim to be an expert" so what's
the problem? I'm clarifying your statement.
> anyways, you do write here as if you are an expert or were writing
> what USCIS considers for extreme mental cruelty applicants.
Aye and that's the rub as it were. That's the "your fodder" portion. I
do not claim to be an expert. If you wish to take my statements and make
them seem as if I am somehow claiming to be an expert then you are
engaging in your own fodder, one I have no control over.
> I don't need to find anything,
You asked for me to state something. I said I stated it already. If you
wish to see it (and, again, you seemed to indicate that you had an
interest) then you're gonna have to look it up. Either that or you need
to be content with not knowing. The choice is yours.
> I know what extreme mental cruelty is not product of my
> thinking/opinions but rather for being a victim myself for talking to
> experts in the field with 25 years of experience handleling this type
> of cases.
Then why did you ask me that question?
> "My understanding is that he should be able to self-petition to get
> the conditions of his status removed. In fact I believe instructions
> for such self-petitioners are contained in the I-751 itself (didn't
> check it though...)"
> So check before your write
Ah, sorry, but I'm busy. I have better things to do.
> nonsense. Self-petitioning is something different, what Justice
> qualifies for is to apply for a ground for the waiver of the joint
> filing requirement on the I-751 Form.
Whatever. OK, then why doesn't he just do that?
> "Again with the word extreme. It is not an extreme hardship in that it
> is not any more extreme than anybody else who immigrates, in this case
> back home, to experience the lose of his job and friends. IOW it's a
> regular
> hardship. I have read many BIA decisions that back that up. Perhaps
> you should."
> I have also, I wasn't referring to what USCIS considers has 'extreme
> hardship'
Ah duh, well how am I supposed to know. You state "extreme hardship" in
an immigration newsgroup in a thread about somebody who may have to go
home and have to show the USCIS form of extreme hardship don't cha think
I would be thinking USCIS extreme hardship and not your arbitrary
definition?!?
> should I have, I would also have advised to file for that ground as
> well. Also BIA decisions mean squat because they could be reversed by
> Circuit Courts...
Whatever dude, however extreme hardship as defined by and used by USCIS
and BIA is much more extreme than your proposed extreme hardship. The
BIA cases are *examples* of others who thought that extreme hardship was
merely hardship and that have been denied precisely because hardship
such as you described is not extreme at all under the eyes of the law,
USCIS and BIA. But hey it's your fire to play with. Have fun!
> "In the end it does not matter what you or I think is extreme hardship
> (or extreme mental cruelty for that matter) but what the USCIS thinks
> qualifies. Personally I don't think that your statement above
> qualifies for extreme hardship nor do I think that Justice's cheating
> wife qualifies for extreme mental cruelty. But hey, it's not my life
> nor my situation. You and Justice can "go for it" if you like. Let's
> know how you make out..."
> Finally, you write here something logical here,
Wrote many things logically before too. Perhaps you still haven't
figured them out.
> is USCIS who makes the determination and not an untrained individual
> like you, so please do us a favor and refrain yourself from telling
> others what USCIS will consider as mental cruelty...
Ah, no. Why should I? I have my opinion, just like everybody else does
here. Many if not most are not "trained professionals" nor immigration
attorneys and yet they offer up their untrained opinions. Hell we've
even commented many times about the trained professionals, lawyers and
the screwing things up royally. Why then should I listen to you and not
offer my own opinion? I'm sorry sir but your mere desire to squelch me
will not work.
> because as you have admitted is them who make the decision, and your
> opinion is worthless than a penny.
Nor is yours, yet you comment too.
> "Well you're gonna just have to keep wondering..."
> I don't have to wonder, I know why come here, to take out your
> frustrations.
OK, then you can come to your own unfounded conclusions. That's another
thing I have no control over. You seem to like to play in your own
imaginary sandbox - who am I to stop you?
> "People judge others that they don't know each and every day. For
> example, you are passing judgments
> about me. Hardly unbelievable. Adjudicators, POE officers and
> consulates pass judgment without the
> benefit of really knowing the person either. And in the end those are
> the people that matter (for immigration issues)."
> That doesn't mean is RIGHT.
And it doesn't mean it is wrong either.
> I am passing judgments about you because you look for them.
Oh so now your are reading my mind and making yet another invalid
assumption that I somehow are looking for judgments from you! Here's a
clue. I'm not!
> Adjudicators, POE officers and Consulate employees pass judgments
> based upon evidence presented and interviews...
Yes as are we, by the posters stated story as well as follow up by
asking questions for clarification. Still we don't really "know" that
poster just like the POE officer doesn't really "know" the person in
front of him aside from the information that he is given. He has not
spent months with the person, etc. Now you can say that the evidence
presented is perhaps of better quality than a post and that may be. Then
again parts of the evidence can be incomplete and or forged too.
> "**** you too buddy! (Sorry but I consider your usage of retarded here
> derogatory and insultive)."
> I am not going to down to your level. If you can't take the heat then
> don't make judgments about others. Plain and simple.
I did not choose to insult you first - you choose to insult me. So you
were already "down to my level" or rather I came down to your level to
insult you so that you might see how it feels.
> "Ah passing judgments seems to be something that you can do too. Big
> deal. Well at least I'm not
> facing deportation. Everything else of your imaginary world that you
> have invented for me will remain just that -
> imaginary..."
> I am not nor does Justice face deportation. As I said before, I passed
> judgments just to see if you get a clue that your attituted sucks and
> you do not contribute with anything positive to this board.
That sir is your opinion. You are welcome to it. I don't agree with it.
Your efforts to make me agree with it has failed. Let's move on now.
--
A friend of mine is into Voodoo Acupuncture. You don't have to go.
You'll just be walking down the street, and...........ooooohhhhhh,
that's much better...
Mar 18th 2004, 7:33 am
#49
WTF?
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: Homeostasis
Posts: 79,443
Re: I-751 Separation and Divorce
Originally posted by Justice
Leslie66 <member14032@british_expats.com> wrote in message
> You said............
>
> "I have the report that shows the blood test
> result is positive,"
>
> If your wife is (still) pregnant then exactly what
> blood test are you talking about? Did they do an in-vitro DNA paternity
> test? They would have also had to have a sample of your DNA to perform
> this type of testing. If it was just blood typing that does not prove
> you are the father. It just means that you cannot be excluded as the
> father at this time.
I have said this many times now, how can I get a DNA test while she is
not allowing me to share her decision to keep the baby or to have an
abortion?
Leslie66 <member14032@british_expats.com> wrote in message
> You said............
>
> "I have the report that shows the blood test
> result is positive,"
>
> If your wife is (still) pregnant then exactly what
> blood test are you talking about? Did they do an in-vitro DNA paternity
> test? They would have also had to have a sample of your DNA to perform
> this type of testing. If it was just blood typing that does not prove
> you are the father. It just means that you cannot be excluded as the
> father at this time.
I have said this many times now, how can I get a DNA test while she is
not allowing me to share her decision to keep the baby or to have an
abortion?
> I'm not sure why any of this would be relevant in
> either the "extreme mental cruelty" or the "asylum" scenario.
>
There is no confusion, it's just somebody used his/her imagination,
> either the "extreme mental cruelty" or the "asylum" scenario.
>
There is no confusion, it's just somebody used his/her imagination,
I
didn't bring up anything about asylum, and I know that asylum is
something totally different, and if I wanted to go that route I could
have done that long time ago. Please read post #19
didn't bring up anything about asylum, and I know that asylum is
something totally different, and if I wanted to go that route I could
have done that long time ago. Please read post #19
If you "wanted to got that route"? So you are just looking for a route you "want to go" as opposed to the one that is true and appropriate to your situation? Okey dokey!! IOW you have a perfectly good case for asylum but you would prefer to fish around for a trumped up mental abuse/battery case? Sounds like a good plan to me!!
> If there are things you cannot post then you won't ever
> really get accurate responses in this type of forum. Have you consulted
> an attorney?
Things that I cannot post are very private and not really nice to be
posted here.
> really get accurate responses in this type of forum. Have you consulted
> an attorney?
Things that I cannot post are very private and not really nice to be
posted here.
I'm going to see an attorney tomorrow.
Mar 29th 2004, 3:21 am
#50
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: I-751 Separation and Divorce
biscuits and gravy wrote:
> why dont you mind your own business?
Huh?!? What are you talking about? People come here to this *public*
place and tell their story and ask questions. As such it's *private
*business! They have already made it public. Other people here comment
and offer opinions. That's how this news group works. So before spouting
off your attempt at censorship perhaps you should first learn about the
forum you are participating in!
> "Leslie66" <member14032@british_expats.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Originally posted by Justice
>>> Leslie66
>> <member14032@british_expats.com> wrote in message
>>>> You
>> said............
>>>> "I have the report that
>> shows the blood test
>>>> result is positive,"
>>>> If your wife is (still) pregnant then exactly what
>>> blood test are you talking about? Did they do an in-vitro DNA
>> paternity
>>>> test? They would have also had to have a sample
>> of your DNA to perform
>>>> this type of testing. If it was
>> just blood typing that does not prove
>>>> you are the father.
>> It just means that you cannot be excluded as the
>>>> father at
>> this time.
>>> I have said this many times now, how can I get a
>> DNA test while she is
>>> not allowing me to share her decision to keep
>> the baby or to have an
>>> abortion?
>> I don't care how many times
>> you've said it, that's not what I asked you. YOU are the one that
>> brought up test results and carrying around vials of blood. I was just
>> curious what sort of test was performed. You still haven't answered my
>> question (and please don't bother, I am beyond the point of caring).
>>> I'm not sure why any of this would be relevant in
>>> either the "extreme mental cruelty" or the "asylum" scenario.
>>>>
>>> There is no confusion, it's just somebody
>> used his/her imagination,
>> WTF?
>>> I
>>> didn't bring up
>> anything about asylum, and I know that asylum is
>>> something totally
>> different, and if I wanted to go that route I could
>>> have done that
>> long time ago. Please read post #19
>> Post # 19? I don't know
>> what your post #19 says. All mine says is "DNA".
>> If you "wanted to got
>> that route"? So you are just looking for a route you "want to go" as
>> opposed to the one that is true and appropriate to your situation? Okey
>> dokey!! IOW you have a perfectly good case for asylum but you would
>> prefer to fish around for a trumped up mental abuse/battery case?
>> Sounds like a good plan to me!!
>>>> If there are things you
>> cannot post then you won't ever
>>>> really get accurate
>> responses in this type of forum. Have you consulted
>>>> an
>> attorney?
>>> Things that I cannot post are very private and not
>> really nice to be
>>> posted here.
>> That's a little disingenuous
>> considering the fact that you've already exposed us to details about
>> abortion and adultery.
>>> I'm going to see an attorney
>> tomorrow.
>>> Good luck.
>> --
>> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
> why dont you mind your own business?
Huh?!? What are you talking about? People come here to this *public*
place and tell their story and ask questions. As such it's *private
*business! They have already made it public. Other people here comment
and offer opinions. That's how this news group works. So before spouting
off your attempt at censorship perhaps you should first learn about the
forum you are participating in!
> "Leslie66" <member14032@british_expats.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Originally posted by Justice
>>> Leslie66
>> <member14032@british_expats.com> wrote in message
>>>> You
>> said............
>>>> "I have the report that
>> shows the blood test
>>>> result is positive,"
>>>> If your wife is (still) pregnant then exactly what
>>> blood test are you talking about? Did they do an in-vitro DNA
>> paternity
>>>> test? They would have also had to have a sample
>> of your DNA to perform
>>>> this type of testing. If it was
>> just blood typing that does not prove
>>>> you are the father.
>> It just means that you cannot be excluded as the
>>>> father at
>> this time.
>>> I have said this many times now, how can I get a
>> DNA test while she is
>>> not allowing me to share her decision to keep
>> the baby or to have an
>>> abortion?
>> I don't care how many times
>> you've said it, that's not what I asked you. YOU are the one that
>> brought up test results and carrying around vials of blood. I was just
>> curious what sort of test was performed. You still haven't answered my
>> question (and please don't bother, I am beyond the point of caring).
>>> I'm not sure why any of this would be relevant in
>>> either the "extreme mental cruelty" or the "asylum" scenario.
>>>>
>>> There is no confusion, it's just somebody
>> used his/her imagination,
>> WTF?
>>> I
>>> didn't bring up
>> anything about asylum, and I know that asylum is
>>> something totally
>> different, and if I wanted to go that route I could
>>> have done that
>> long time ago. Please read post #19
>> Post # 19? I don't know
>> what your post #19 says. All mine says is "DNA".
>> If you "wanted to got
>> that route"? So you are just looking for a route you "want to go" as
>> opposed to the one that is true and appropriate to your situation? Okey
>> dokey!! IOW you have a perfectly good case for asylum but you would
>> prefer to fish around for a trumped up mental abuse/battery case?
>> Sounds like a good plan to me!!
>>>> If there are things you
>> cannot post then you won't ever
>>>> really get accurate
>> responses in this type of forum. Have you consulted
>>>> an
>> attorney?
>>> Things that I cannot post are very private and not
>> really nice to be
>>> posted here.
>> That's a little disingenuous
>> considering the fact that you've already exposed us to details about
>> abortion and adultery.
>>> I'm going to see an attorney
>> tomorrow.
>>> Good luck.
>> --
>> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Mar 29th 2004, 7:49 am
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Re: I-751 Separation and Divorce
All of you are a bunch of f.ulking philosephers. Just help the man.
This is a very simple story. He married a woman. She did him wrong. He wants to leave. He wants to use this situation to his advantage.
It doesn't matter if he is right or wrong; He asked you, his wife didn't ask. Just answer him, how to take an advantage of this situation
This is a very simple story. He married a woman. She did him wrong. He wants to leave. He wants to use this situation to his advantage.
It doesn't matter if he is right or wrong; He asked you, his wife didn't ask. Just answer him, how to take an advantage of this situation
Originally posted by Leslie66
I don't care how many times you've said it, that's not what I asked you. YOU are the one that brought up test results and carrying around vials of blood. I was just curious what sort of test was performed. You still haven't answered my question (and please don't bother, I am beyond the point of caring).
WTF?
Post # 19? I don't know what your post #19 says. All mine says is "DNA".
If you "wanted to got that route"? So you are just looking for a route you "want to go" as opposed to the one that is true and appropriate to your situation? Okey dokey!! IOW you have a perfectly good case for asylum but you would prefer to fish around for a trumped up mental abuse/battery case? Sounds like a good plan to me!!
That's a little disingenuous considering the fact that you've already exposed us to details about abortion and adultery.
Good luck.
I don't care how many times you've said it, that's not what I asked you. YOU are the one that brought up test results and carrying around vials of blood. I was just curious what sort of test was performed. You still haven't answered my question (and please don't bother, I am beyond the point of caring).
WTF?
Post # 19? I don't know what your post #19 says. All mine says is "DNA".
If you "wanted to got that route"? So you are just looking for a route you "want to go" as opposed to the one that is true and appropriate to your situation? Okey dokey!! IOW you have a perfectly good case for asylum but you would prefer to fish around for a trumped up mental abuse/battery case? Sounds like a good plan to me!!
That's a little disingenuous considering the fact that you've already exposed us to details about abortion and adultery.
Good luck.
Mar 29th 2004, 8:20 am
#52
WTF?
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Location: Homeostasis
Posts: 79,443
Re: I-751 Separation and Divorce
Originally posted by Yuriy
All of you are a bunch of f.ulking philosephers. Just help the man.
This is a very simple story. He married a woman. She did him wrong. He wants to leave. He wants to use this situation to his advantage.
It doesn't matter if he is right or wrong; He asked you, his wife didn't ask. Just answer him, how to take an advantage of this situation
All of you are a bunch of f.ulking philosephers. Just help the man.
This is a very simple story. He married a woman. She did him wrong. He wants to leave. He wants to use this situation to his advantage.
It doesn't matter if he is right or wrong; He asked you, his wife didn't ask. Just answer him, how to take an advantage of this situation
Mar 29th 2004, 8:29 am
#53
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Re: I-751 Separation and Divorce
Very Rude.
Originally posted by Leslie66
Piss off.
Piss off.
Mar 29th 2004, 8:37 am
#54
WTF?
Joined: Aug 2003
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Posts: 79,443
Re: I-751 Separation and Divorce
Originally posted by Yuriy
All of you are a bunch of f.ulking philosephers. Just help the man.
This is a very simple story. He married a woman. She did him wrong. He wants to leave. He wants to use this situation to his advantage.
It doesn't matter if he is right or wrong; He asked you, his wife didn't ask. Just answer him, how to take an advantage of this situation
All of you are a bunch of f.ulking philosephers. Just help the man.
This is a very simple story. He married a woman. She did him wrong. He wants to leave. He wants to use this situation to his advantage.
It doesn't matter if he is right or wrong; He asked you, his wife didn't ask. Just answer him, how to take an advantage of this situation
Why don't you just answer him? Because his questions (much like YOURS in YOUR stupid thread) were answered in the very first response(s).
SOME people just seem to think it is amusing to:
1. Ask a loaded question.
2. Argue with everybody that doesn't tell them exactly what they want to hear.
3. Keep it up until they get flamed.
4. Complain because they were treated badly.
5. Start the whole process over again under a different user name.
Mar 29th 2004, 8:56 am
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Re: I-751 Separation and Divorce
Originally posted by Leslie66
Very rude.
Why don't you just answer him? Because his questions (much like YOURS in YOUR stupid thread) were answered in the very first response(s).
SOME people just seem to think it is amusing to:
1. Ask a loaded question.
2. Argue with everybody that doesn't tell them exactly what they want to hear.
3. Keep it up until they get flamed.
4. Complain because they were treated badly.
5. Start the whole process over again under a different user name.
Very rude.
Why don't you just answer him? Because his questions (much like YOURS in YOUR stupid thread) were answered in the very first response(s).
SOME people just seem to think it is amusing to:
1. Ask a loaded question.
2. Argue with everybody that doesn't tell them exactly what they want to hear.
3. Keep it up until they get flamed.
4. Complain because they were treated badly.
5. Start the whole process over again under a different user name.
People have different stories. They might provide an interesting advice or an input. That's why loaded questions are asked. So that people like you would not ask every little detail, just to give an answer that everybody knows.
Mar 29th 2004, 9:01 am
#56
WTF?
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Posts: 79,443
Re: I-751 Separation and Divorce
Originally posted by Yuriy
Because you people don't give real answers. All the answers that you provide are the reference to some documents. Well, you know what, everybody can read. Some people need a creative answer, that doesn't go by the book and that might work for them.
People have different stories. They might provide an interesting advice or an input. That's why loaded questions are asked. So that people like you would not ask every little detail, just to give an answer that everybody knows.
Because you people don't give real answers. All the answers that you provide are the reference to some documents. Well, you know what, everybody can read. Some people need a creative answer, that doesn't go by the book and that might work for them.
People have different stories. They might provide an interesting advice or an input. That's why loaded questions are asked. So that people like you would not ask every little detail, just to give an answer that everybody knows.
Mar 29th 2004, 9:06 am
#57
SUPER CRUNCHY BALCONY COW
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 9,476
Re: I-751 Separation and Divorce
Originally posted by Leslie66
Very rude.
Why don't you just answer him? Because his questions (much like YOURS in YOUR stupid thread) were answered in the very first response(s).
SOME people just seem to think it is amusing to:
1. Ask a loaded question.
2. Argue with everybody that doesn't tell them exactly what they want to hear.
3. Keep it up until they get flamed.
4. Complain because they were treated badly.
5. Start the whole process over again under a different user name.
Very rude.
Why don't you just answer him? Because his questions (much like YOURS in YOUR stupid thread) were answered in the very first response(s).
SOME people just seem to think it is amusing to:
1. Ask a loaded question.
2. Argue with everybody that doesn't tell them exactly what they want to hear.
3. Keep it up until they get flamed.
4. Complain because they were treated badly.
5. Start the whole process over again under a different user name.
YOU GO GIRL!!!
Mar 29th 2004, 9:07 am
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Posts: 28
Re: I-751 Separation and Divorce
Your world is very shallow. How did you ever get married to a guy in Morrocco. That is not that common to bring somebody to US on Visa Fiancee. That must have been biggest risk that you ever took in your life. I am curriues how did it happen?
Originally posted by Leslie66
That's the biggest load of crap I've ever heard.
That's the biggest load of crap I've ever heard.
Mar 29th 2004, 9:09 am
#59
WTF?
Joined: Aug 2003
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Posts: 79,443
Re: I-751 Separation and Divorce
Originally posted by Yuriy
Your world is very shallow. How did you ever get married to a guy in Morrocco. That is not that common to bring somebody to US on Visa Fiancee. That must have been biggest risk that you ever took in your life. I am curriues how did it happen?
Your world is very shallow. How did you ever get married to a guy in Morrocco. That is not that common to bring somebody to US on Visa Fiancee. That must have been biggest risk that you ever took in your life. I am curriues how did it happen?
Mar 29th 2004, 9:10 am
#60
SUPER CRUNCHY BALCONY COW
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 9,476
Re: I-751 Separation and Divorce
Originally posted by Yuriy
Your world is very shallow. How did you ever get married to a guy in Morrocco. That is not that common to bring somebody to US on Visa Fiancee. That must have been biggest risk that you ever took in your life. I am curriues how did it happen?
Your world is very shallow. How did you ever get married to a guy in Morrocco. That is not that common to bring somebody to US on Visa Fiancee. That must have been biggest risk that you ever took in your life. I am curriues how did it happen?
Yurij:
Your question was already answered, would you drop it?, You are annoying!!!
