Will i get in ? Frodo, how u get ur visa?
 

How the hell did frodo Baggins get his B2 visa if he said he had a girlfriend in the USA & more so if he's English.

I was denied i have been told for these 2 reasons. ?

I'm going to ask again because i hope to try & go soon on the waiver, but i shouldn't have applied, i only did it because i thought i would get more time! I didn't expect it to affect me using the waiver.
Surely immigration have more on their plate at the moment than a British tourist.
I f i just tell the truth like Frodo Baggins when i get to immigration that i am going to visit my gf will this work, i told the embassy this & this is why i thought i was denied. Will immigration know about my gf when i get to the states? or should i just say i'm travelling. Both are true. It was the end of October when i returned. I now have an appointment to return for surgery along with my letter from an employer, bank statements & letter from family i'm staying with & letter from my parents saying i'll be returning there. I don't have kids or a property.

Re: Frodo, how did you get yours..!
 

It wasn't easy. I took everything I had with me to prove I had ties but the
only thing that allowed the agent to give me the benefit of the doubt was
that I have a 9 year old daughter in England. Her name just happens to be in
my passport and that gave her conclusive proof that I have ties in England.

As for telling the truth, I have told the truth at the Embassy and at the
POE. On one trip however on the VWP, I did get taken aside for further
questioning (including a bag and wallet search) but once they know my story,
it's all cleared up.

One agent even asked me if marriage was involved and I said it was. He just
laughed and told me to get started on the paperwork as there was lots to it.
I looked out for him on every trip (funny, the trip where I got pulled aside
was when that friendly agent wasn't at the desk).

But the main hurdle you have in applying for a B2 in England is that they'll
ask you why you are applying when you can simply use the VWP. My answer to
that question was that I had used the VWP five times and the last trip I was
pulled aside and they recommended I get a Visa for my next trip else entry
could be a problem. Rather than fly only to be denied entry, I decided to
get a B2.


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"gazmix" <member18625@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    > How the hell did frodo Baggins get his B2 visa if he said he had a
    > girlfriend in the USA & more so if he's English.
    > I was denied i have been told for these 2 reasons. ?
    > I'm going to ask again because i hope to try & go soon on the waiver,
    > but i shouldn't have applied, i only did it because i thought i would
    > get more time! I didn't expect it to affect me using the waiver.
    > Surely immigration have more on their plate at the moment than
    > a British tourist.
    > I f i just tell the truth like Frodo Baggins when i get to
    > immigration that i am going to visit my gf will this work, i
    > told the embassy this & this is why i thought i was denied.
    > Will immigration know about my gf when i get to the states? or
    > should i just say i'm travelling. Both are true. It was the end
    > of October when i returned. I now have an appointment to return
    > for surgery along with my letter from an employer, bank
    > statements & letter from family i'm staying with & letter from
    > my parents saying i'll be returning there. I don't have kids
    > or a property.
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Re: Frodo, how did you get yours..!
 

It wasn't easy. I took everything I had with me to prove I had ties but the
only thing that allowed the agent to give me the benefit of the doubt was
that I have a 9 year old daughter in England. Her name just happens to be in
my passport and that gave her conclusive proof that I have ties in England.

As for telling the truth, I have told the truth at the Embassy and at the
POE. On one trip however on the VWP, I did get taken aside for further
questioning (including a bag and wallet search) but once they know my story,
it's all cleared up.

One agent even asked me if marriage was involved and I said it was. He just
laughed and told me to get started on the paperwork as there was lots to it.
I looked out for him on every trip (funny, the trip where I got pulled aside
was when that friendly agent wasn't at the desk).

But the main hurdle you have in applying for a B2 in England is that they'll
ask you why you are applying when you can simply use the VWP. My answer to
that question was that I had used the VWP five times and the last trip I was
pulled aside and they recommended I get a Visa for my next trip else entry
could be a problem. Rather than fly only to be denied entry, I decided to
get a B2.


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"Actually, the biggest deterrent to scientific progress is a refusal of some
people, including scientists, to believe that things that seem amazing can
really happen" - George S Trimble, Director of NASA Manned Spacecraft
Center.
"gazmix" <member18625@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > How the hell did frodo Baggins get his B2 visa if he said he had a
    > girlfriend in the USA & more so if he's English.
    > I was denied i have been told for these 2 reasons. ?
    > I'm going to ask again because i hope to try & go soon on the waiver,
    > but i shouldn't have applied, i only did it because i thought i would
    > get more time! I didn't expect it to affect me using the waiver.
    > Surely immigration have more on their plate at the moment than
    > a British tourist.
    > I f i just tell the truth like Frodo Baggins when i get to
    > immigration that i am going to visit my gf will this work, i
    > told the embassy this & this is why i thought i was denied.
    > Will immigration know about my gf when i get to the states? or
    > should i just say i'm travelling. Both are true. It was the end
    > of October when i returned. I now have an appointment to return
    > for surgery along with my letter from an employer, bank
    > statements & letter from family i'm staying with & letter from
    > my parents saying i'll be returning there. I don't have kids
    > or a property.
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Re: Frodo, how did you get yours..!
 

It wasn't easy. I took everything I had with me to prove I had ties but the
only thing that allowed the agent to give me the benefit of the doubt was
that I have a 9 year old daughter in England. Her name just happens to be in
my passport and that gave her conclusive proof that I have ties in England.

As for telling the truth, I have told the truth at the Embassy and at the
POE. On one trip however on the VWP, I did get taken aside for further
questioning (including a bag and wallet search) but once they know my story,
it's all cleared up.

One agent even asked me if marriage was involved and I said it was. He just
laughed and told me to get started on the paperwork as there was lots to it.
I looked out for him on every trip (funny, the trip where I got pulled aside
was when that friendly agent wasn't at the desk).

But the main hurdle you have in applying for a B2 in England is that they'll
ask you why you are applying when you can simply use the VWP. My answer to
that question was that I had used the VWP five times and the last trip I was
pulled aside and they recommended I get a Visa for my next trip else entry
could be a problem. Rather than fly only to be denied entry, I decided to
get a B2.


--
------------------------------------------------

"Actually, the biggest deterrent to scientific progress is a refusal of some
people, including scientists, to believe that things that seem amazing can
really happen" - George S Trimble, Director of NASA Manned Spacecraft
Center.
"gazmix" <member18625@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > How the hell did frodo Baggins get his B2 visa if he said he had a
    > girlfriend in the USA & more so if he's English.
    > I was denied i have been told for these 2 reasons. ?
    > I'm going to ask again because i hope to try & go soon on the waiver,
    > but i shouldn't have applied, i only did it because i thought i would
    > get more time! I didn't expect it to affect me using the waiver.
    > Surely immigration have more on their plate at the moment than
    > a British tourist.
    > I f i just tell the truth like Frodo Baggins when i get to
    > immigration that i am going to visit my gf will this work, i
    > told the embassy this & this is why i thought i was denied.
    > Will immigration know about my gf when i get to the states? or
    > should i just say i'm travelling. Both are true. It was the end
    > of October when i returned. I now have an appointment to return
    > for surgery along with my letter from an employer, bank
    > statements & letter from family i'm staying with & letter from
    > my parents saying i'll be returning there. I don't have kids
    > or a property.
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Re: Frodo, how did you get yours..!
 

Re: Frodo, how did you get yours..!
 

I can't give you a yes or no to your question.

REMEMBER, I AM NOT A LAWYER AND ONLY SPEAK FROM MY IMMIGRATION EXPERIENCE!!

As far as I am aware, if you apply for a Visa and are denied, you may not
use the VWP, well legally anyway.

So, you should apply for a B2 again. If you have a letter stating a date and
time for surgery, that would help a lot. You could even take the risk of
purchasing a ticket to show you have a return date before your surgery BUT
THAT IS A BIG RISK. You may be denied and you've wasted a ticket.

But at this stage, what have you got to lose?

If you want to e-mail me privately, my e-mail address is
[email protected] and I'll be happy to discuss my situation with you. My
girlfriend (now my wife) had a hard time trying to cope with the fear of not
being able to see each other again but we pulled through.



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"Actually, the biggest deterrent to scientific progress is a refusal of some
people, including scientists, to believe that things that seem amazing can
really happen" - George S Trimble, Director of NASA Manned Spacecraft
Center.
"gazmix" <member18625@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > > Originally
    > >
    > > Normally this is hard as you say so having been denied already should
    > > i try again, although i'll probably be denied again as nothing has
    > > realy changed exept the hospital appointment, or just go on the
    > > waiver?? If i just say the truth that i made a big mistake not
    > > knowing it would affect me, would i be fine, it's the truth & they
    > > are human!
    > > --
    > > ------------------------------------------------
    > >
    > > "Actually, the biggest deterrent to scientific progress is a
    > > refusal of some
    > > people, including scientists, to believe that things that seem
    > > amazing can
    > > really happen" - George S Trimble, Director of NASA Manned Spacecraft
    > > Center.
    > > "gazmix" <member18625@british_expats.com> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]"]news:1152053.1073404-
    > > [email protected][/url]...
    > > > How the hell did frodo Baggins get his B2 visa if he said he had
    > > a
    > > > girlfriend in the USA & more so if he's English.
    > > > I was denied i have been told for these 2 reasons. ?
    > > > I'm going to ask again because i hope to try & go soon on the
    > > waiver,
    > > > but i shouldn't have applied, i only did it because i thought i
    > > would
    > > > get more time! I didn't expect it to affect me using the
    > > waiver.
    > > > Surely immigration have more on their plate at the
    > > moment than
    > > > a British tourist.
    > > > I f i just tell the truth like Frodo Baggins when i get
    > > to
    > > > immigration that i am going to visit my gf will this
    > > work, i
    > > > told the embassy this & this is why i thought i was
    > > denied.
    > > > Will immigration know about my gf when i get to the
    > > states? or
    > > > should i just say i'm travelling. Both are true. It was
    > > the end
    > > > of October when i returned. I now have an appointment
    > > to return
    > > > for surgery along with my letter from an employer,
    > > bank
    > > > statements & letter from family i'm staying with &
    > > letter from
    > > > my parents saying i'll be returning there. I don't
    > > have kids
    > > > or a property.
    > > > --
    > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com/"]http://britishexpats.-
    > com[/url]
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Re: Frodo, how did you get yours..!
 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Froddo Baggins

As far as I am aware, if you apply for a Visa and are denied, you may not
use the VWP, well legally anyway.

This is NOT true.

Re: Frodo, how did you get yours..!
 

"Froddo Baggins" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > As far as I am aware, if you apply for a Visa and are denied, you may not
    > use the VWP, well legally anyway.

Untrue, as discussed here recently


http://groups.google.com/groups?selm....earthlink.net

According to the USA Consulate in London, people refused visas under
221(g) or 214(b) are allowed to use the VWP.

http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_web...iv/add_req.htm

Re: Frodo, how did you get yours..!
 

After my denial i was issued a form which stated that i could not appeal the decision, but i could request an explanation. I wrote to the embassy concerning this & also stated that it was a mistake to have applied & would they consider the Bond system, which does exist & that they could do on my behalf.
I just am pissed off that this error on my behalf is ruining my planned trip to travel, although i have myself to blame, surely the people at the embassy would be understanding.
I requested the help of my MP who has written to them, but neither of us have had a reply after at least a month, i feel i should contact them again.