FFS!
Feb 13th 2009, 2:24 am
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Feb 13th 2009, 3:34 am
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Re: FFS!
I actually feel sorry for them that's there childhood well and truly over at age 13& 15 very sad.
Feb 13th 2009, 3:35 am
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just looked at the pics he's a very young looking 13 OMG!!!
Feb 13th 2009, 3:48 am
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Re: FFS!
I'm stunned........................................... ....
He looks about 8 years of age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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He looks about 8 years of age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Feb 13th 2009, 4:54 am
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Great! Another baby brought into a family on welfare benefits by a single teenager who will also support the kid on welfare. Just what society needs.
What ever happened to responsible parents? What kind of parent encourages their 15 year old child to keep a baby when there are so many other ways to deal with an unplanned pregnancy? If she didn't want an abortion then that's fine. What about the thousands of couples out there who would kill for a baby? To allow a young child to throw away not only their lives but that of the new baby too is just too much.
What ever happened to responsible parents? What kind of parent encourages their 15 year old child to keep a baby when there are so many other ways to deal with an unplanned pregnancy? If she didn't want an abortion then that's fine. What about the thousands of couples out there who would kill for a baby? To allow a young child to throw away not only their lives but that of the new baby too is just too much.
Feb 13th 2009, 6:21 am
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Re: FFS!
Terribly sad story. But can we respect the fact that I know of at least 2 BE members, who have been in this situation themselves and seem to have done a great job of raising their kids with support. ( not me i may add!!)
Feb 13th 2009, 6:33 am
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Re: FFS!
they are so young especially the dad !
he doesn;t look much older than my 5 yr old i cant believe he's 13
how sad - hope they do prove everyone wrong though
he doesn;t look much older than my 5 yr old i cant believe he's 13
how sad - hope they do prove everyone wrong though
Feb 13th 2009, 7:50 am
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I think it's really tragic. My heart goes out to them. But I believe we have to be careful with the sympathy vote. If we show any signs of condoning what's happened, it will be accepted as OK and therefore normal. Society is fractured enough without bringing more babies into a world that already has a population of children being brought up in less than ideal circumstances.
I wish the news hadn't reported it.
I wish the news hadn't reported it.
Feb 13th 2009, 8:03 am
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Mother Chantelle (well, it was either going to be that or Chastity, wasn't it?) was worried that being pregnant would get her into trouble with her mum ... I wonder if dad Alfie thought he might get a detention? 
Feb 13th 2009, 9:16 am
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Do you think he actually even "knew" what he was doing??? Little innocent face
Feb 14th 2009, 12:49 am
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Well, considering the age of consent in England and Wales is 16 for a girl and there is no "technical age of consent" for boys, he raped her. At least legally.
[edit] England and Wales
The age of consent in England and Wales is 16, as specified by the Sexual Offences Act 2003 {§44(1)}. However it is illegal for a person to engage in sexual activity with an individual under the age of 18 if they are in a position of trust in relation to that individual (teacher, warder, care giver, guardian, etc).{§44(3),(4)}
[edit] History
The age of consent for heterosexual acts in England was set at 12 in 1275 and remained so for six centuries - due to the wording of the law, the age of consent only applied to women (consequently, all amendments to the law also only applied to women). The wording was along the lines of "It shall be deemed illegal to ravage a maiden who is not of age" - at the time "of age" being 12. Therefore, there was, and is, technically no age of consent for the male participant - unless the female participant is an adult in which case laws pertaining to sex with a minor and so on come into force.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of...land_and_Wales
[edit] England and Wales
The age of consent in England and Wales is 16, as specified by the Sexual Offences Act 2003 {§44(1)}. However it is illegal for a person to engage in sexual activity with an individual under the age of 18 if they are in a position of trust in relation to that individual (teacher, warder, care giver, guardian, etc).{§44(3),(4)}
[edit] History
The age of consent for heterosexual acts in England was set at 12 in 1275 and remained so for six centuries - due to the wording of the law, the age of consent only applied to women (consequently, all amendments to the law also only applied to women). The wording was along the lines of "It shall be deemed illegal to ravage a maiden who is not of age" - at the time "of age" being 12. Therefore, there was, and is, technically no age of consent for the male participant - unless the female participant is an adult in which case laws pertaining to sex with a minor and so on come into force.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of...land_and_Wales
Feb 14th 2009, 11:22 am
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Re: FFS!
The AVERAGE age of first sex is 14 . . . so the fact that there are kids younger than that having sex is no surprise, surely. Fortunately, for whatever reason, we don't hear about the really young ones getting pregnant very often.
Of course it's not something to condone, but I hate the dramatics of statements like those made by 'former Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith, [who] said the birth highlighted another case of "broken Britain" where "anything goes". He said: "It's not being accusative, it's about pointing out the complete collapse in some parts of society of any sense of what's right and wrong."
It's another of those things that isn't new. I bet there were kids in Iain Duncan Smith's circle that had had sex at 12 . . .
Of course it's not something to condone, but I hate the dramatics of statements like those made by 'former Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith, [who] said the birth highlighted another case of "broken Britain" where "anything goes". He said: "It's not being accusative, it's about pointing out the complete collapse in some parts of society of any sense of what's right and wrong."
It's another of those things that isn't new. I bet there were kids in Iain Duncan Smith's circle that had had sex at 12 . . .
Feb 14th 2009, 11:55 am
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The AVERAGE age of first sex is 14 . . . so the fact that there are kids younger than that having sex is no surprise, surely. Fortunately, for whatever reason, we don't hear about the really young ones getting pregnant very often.
Of course it's not something to condone, but I hate the dramatics of statements like those made by 'former Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith, [who] said the birth highlighted another case of "broken Britain" where "anything goes". He said: "It's not being accusative, it's about pointing out the complete collapse in some parts of society of any sense of what's right and wrong."
It's another of those things that isn't new. I bet there were kids in Iain Duncan Smith's circle that had had sex at 12 . . .
Of course it's not something to condone, but I hate the dramatics of statements like those made by 'former Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith, [who] said the birth highlighted another case of "broken Britain" where "anything goes". He said: "It's not being accusative, it's about pointing out the complete collapse in some parts of society of any sense of what's right and wrong."
It's another of those things that isn't new. I bet there were kids in Iain Duncan Smith's circle that had had sex at 12 . . .
- yes, but they were all so bloody useless at it they couldn't score a hit.