CIS fees to go up
Feb 2nd 2004, 10:22 am
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Re: CIS fees to go up
Originally posted by Hypertweeky
Hey there Mr Folinskyinla:
I know you dont *usually* answer questions aiming solely to you, But here I go.
Do I need to apply for AP if I am a K3?,I have been told yes and no, and I would like to hear your opinion
Thanks a lot in advance
Hey there Mr Folinskyinla:
I know you dont *usually* answer questions aiming solely to you, But here I go.
Do I need to apply for AP if I am a K3?,I have been told yes and no, and I would like to hear your opinion
Thanks a lot in advance
Its in the regulations.
Some people might say "RTFM" but I prefer "UTSL" -- BTW, I've been noted for using "RTFM" on the private lawyer listserves. Last year, an attorney asked a question, and not a bad one -- and two other certified specialists gave a succinct and accurate answer. Well, another attorney begged to disagree, but started off with "I have not read the regulations, but it seems that ..."
Since this was on a LAWYER's listserv, I responded "If you have not read the regulations, then you don't have any business responding" and then gave the citation to the answer. I got many "way to go!" e-mails after that and still get pulled aside by colleagues in the halls of CIS.
Feb 2nd 2004, 10:23 am
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Re: CIS fees to go up
Originally posted by Steffi
I just read the AP form and it says you don't need to apply for it if you're a K3.
I just read the AP form and it says you don't need to apply for it if you're a K3.
as was mentioned in a previous thread,
Jeffreyhy:
Thing is, I've had one lawyer tell me he's had several K3 clients who've had the CIS tell them that their AOS was abandoned after traveling without AP. This can be fought and won, or re-apply for AOS, but at what cost in time, effort, and money?
Feb 2nd 2004, 10:24 am
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Re: CIS fees to go up
Originally posted by Steffi
I just read the AP form and it says you don't need to apply for it if you're a K3. You can read it yourself if you'd like. Just download the form: http://uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/f...iles/I-131.pdf
What Is the Purpose of This Form?
Advance Parole Document -
Blablabla
blabla
blabla
NOTE: If you are in the United States and wish to travel abroad, you do not need to apply for advance parole if both conditions described below in numbers 1 and 2 are met:
1. You are in one of the following nonimmigrant categories:
c. A K-3, spouse, or K-4, child of a US citizen.
2. A Form I-485, Application to Register Permant Residence or Adjust Status, was filed on your behalf and is pending with the CIS.
I just read the AP form and it says you don't need to apply for it if you're a K3. You can read it yourself if you'd like. Just download the form: http://uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/f...iles/I-131.pdf
What Is the Purpose of This Form?
Advance Parole Document -
Blablabla
blabla
blabla
NOTE: If you are in the United States and wish to travel abroad, you do not need to apply for advance parole if both conditions described below in numbers 1 and 2 are met:
1. You are in one of the following nonimmigrant categories:
c. A K-3, spouse, or K-4, child of a US citizen.
2. A Form I-485, Application to Register Permant Residence or Adjust Status, was filed on your behalf and is pending with the CIS.
I always though K3´s did NOT need AP, but Jeffreyhy (sorry!!)
got me all confused yesterday.
Feb 2nd 2004, 10:25 am
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Re: CIS fees to go up
My reference was ambiguous. I meant the American petitioners and yes, we are seeking a direct benefit. Paul Gani was suggesting that the immigrants were the ones who would be paying these fees but in fact, their American sponsors are the ones who actually pay them. Again, I really have no problem with the fee increases. I better send the I-130s and I-485s in for my three stepchildren as soon as they get here!
Originally posted by Folinskyinla
Hi:
Please define the breadth of "we." The "we" who are the US petitioners are seeking a pretty direct benefit -- either a visa petition or something for the alien beneficiary of the AmCit's petition.
If you define "we" as all taxpay AmCits [and LPR's for that matter] for whom the only thing they know about immigration is that is starts with an "I" -- they are notionally paying nothing.
Hi:
Please define the breadth of "we." The "we" who are the US petitioners are seeking a pretty direct benefit -- either a visa petition or something for the alien beneficiary of the AmCit's petition.
If you define "we" as all taxpay AmCits [and LPR's for that matter] for whom the only thing they know about immigration is that is starts with an "I" -- they are notionally paying nothing.
Feb 2nd 2004, 10:25 am
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Re: CIS fees to go up
Originally posted by Folinskyinla
Hi:
Its in the regulations.
Hi:
Its in the regulations.
BTW: i hadn't come accross "UTSL" before, but i like it
Feb 2nd 2004, 10:27 am
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Re: CIS fees to go up
Originally posted by Hypertweeky
Thanks for the info girlie
I always though K3´s did NOT need AP, but Jeffreyhy (sorry!!)
got me all confused yesterday.
Thanks for the info girlie
I always though K3´s did NOT need AP, but Jeffreyhy (sorry!!)
got me all confused yesterday.
Feb 2nd 2004, 10:28 am
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Re: CIS fees to go up
Originally posted by mdaitc
Could ya be more specific about where in the regs?
Could ya be more specific about where in the regs?
Feb 2nd 2004, 10:30 am
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Re: CIS fees to go up
Originally posted by Steffi
Ok, I guess even though the form clearly states that you should not need it, others have had problems. That really sucks! Once again I'm as confused as you are.
Ok, I guess even though the form clearly states that you should not need it, others have had problems. That really sucks! Once again I'm as confused as you are.
Feb 2nd 2004, 10:31 am
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Re: CIS fees to go up
Originally posted by Hypertweeky
We need someone to enlight us!!!, please!!
We need someone to enlight us!!!, please!!
Feb 2nd 2004, 10:36 am
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Re: CIS fees to go up
Originally posted by dutchman2001nl
K3 visa is a two-year validity multiple-entry visa.
K3 visa is a two-year validity multiple-entry visa.
Feb 2nd 2004, 10:39 am
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Re: CIS fees to go up
Originally posted by Hypertweeky
Matt and I though so too, but Jeffrey got us into thinking.. read Matt´s earlier post
Matt and I though so too, but Jeffrey got us into thinking.. read Matt´s earlier post
Feb 2nd 2004, 10:40 am
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Re: CIS fees to go up
Originally posted by dutchman2001nl
I'm not confused.....
I'm not confused.....
Feb 2nd 2004, 11:38 am
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Re: CIS fees to go up
"sunflwrgrl13" <member16206@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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> Originally posted by Andy Platt
> > What irks me is that
> congress thinks it's fair to saddle other immigrants with their bill
> rather than general tax payers. Last I heard it was America welcoming
> the poor and hungry, not their fellow immigrants!
> > Andy.
> >
> Hear, hear, Andy. We pay high enough fees already. But I see no one
> has mentioned military naturalizations being free. Just because they are
> military does not mean they should get special treatment. What makes
I don't begrudge them that. With who they have for commander-in-chief they
deserve more than free naturalization applications!
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> Originally posted by Andy Platt
> > What irks me is that
> congress thinks it's fair to saddle other immigrants with their bill
> rather than general tax payers. Last I heard it was America welcoming
> the poor and hungry, not their fellow immigrants!
> > Andy.
> >
> Hear, hear, Andy. We pay high enough fees already. But I see no one
> has mentioned military naturalizations being free. Just because they are
> military does not mean they should get special treatment. What makes
I don't begrudge them that. With who they have for commander-in-chief they
deserve more than free naturalization applications!
Andy.
--
I'm not really here, it's just your warped imagination
Feb 2nd 2004, 12:05 pm
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Re: CIS fees to go up
I was under the impression that once you filed AOS you had to have an AP to travel outside the US. Leaving without having an AP to get back into the US would be considered abandoning your AOS application. I personally walked into our local office, Indianapolis, for our AOS papers and was given the AP application also. I asked if it was needed even tho we had K3 and K4 visas and the answer was a definate YES. Yes, the K3 is good for multiple entries up to 2 years, as long as you've not applied for AOS.
I won't travel without an AP for the shear fact of a *possiblity* of not being allowed back home to my family here in the US.
I won't travel without an AP for the shear fact of a *possiblity* of not being allowed back home to my family here in the US.
Feb 2nd 2004, 12:39 pm
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Re: CIS fees to go up
Jo,
What you were told confirms what I've heard elsewhere - different CIS offices or personnel have different understandings as to whether or not a K3/K4 requires advance parole, not withstanding what the regulations say.
But again - the issue is not whether or not you will be allowed back into the US after traveling abroad. The issue is whether or not your local office will consider that you have abandoned your application to adjust status.
By chance did you take with you to the Indy office a printout of the information from the CIS web site that clearly says a K3 does not need advance parole? I'd love to know how they'd react to that.
Regards, JEff
What you were told confirms what I've heard elsewhere - different CIS offices or personnel have different understandings as to whether or not a K3/K4 requires advance parole, not withstanding what the regulations say.
But again - the issue is not whether or not you will be allowed back into the US after traveling abroad. The issue is whether or not your local office will consider that you have abandoned your application to adjust status.
By chance did you take with you to the Indy office a printout of the information from the CIS web site that clearly says a K3 does not need advance parole? I'd love to know how they'd react to that.
Regards, JEff
Originally posted by Jo_B
I was under the impression that once you filed AOS you had to have an AP to travel outside the US. Leaving without having an AP to get back into the US would be considered abandoning your AOS application. I personally walked into our local office, Indianapolis, for our AOS papers and was given the AP application also. I asked if it was needed even tho we had K3 and K4 visas and the answer was a definate YES. Yes, the K3 is good for multiple entries up to 2 years, as long as you've not applied for AOS.
I won't travel without an AP for the shear fact of a *possiblity* of not being allowed back home to my family here in the US.
I was under the impression that once you filed AOS you had to have an AP to travel outside the US. Leaving without having an AP to get back into the US would be considered abandoning your AOS application. I personally walked into our local office, Indianapolis, for our AOS papers and was given the AP application also. I asked if it was needed even tho we had K3 and K4 visas and the answer was a definate YES. Yes, the K3 is good for multiple entries up to 2 years, as long as you've not applied for AOS.
I won't travel without an AP for the shear fact of a *possiblity* of not being allowed back home to my family here in the US.
