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Old Jun 17th 2011 | 7:20 am
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Huh. I can't even remember what my fiancée used when she started the petition. Back when we did the initial petition documents we didn't scan and make copies of everything like we've subsequently done (in fact I've gone the other way and make about three of everything, hah).

Like I said, my mistake - I thought the OP was talking about what they took to the interview, not from the petition stage.
The OP has damaged her MBE; it has ALL the case paperwork in it, including the petition phase documents. Everything.

Please help her keep this thread on that topic.
 
Old Jun 18th 2011 | 5:02 am
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Can the OP go and dig about in Mums house and see if she has stashed the bits that are missing? Does she have a place in her room where she keeps important papers etc, she may well have put them away somewhere and not thrown them out in the bin. At least then the embassy can re assemble the items needed.
 
Old Jun 20th 2011 | 4:40 am
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Thanks again for everyone's replies

I've been trying to phone them up to get a clear answer, as I'm wondering if there's any additional charges to get this envelope resealed

When I managed to talk to someone very quickly, they told me I would need another appointment to get my Visa reinstated, however in an email I was told I could just pay them again and it would be put back in. I don't know what to imagine now, of what course of action to take

And if the missing document is the I-129 related one, I could probably get my fiance to send me another one.. And I have other photos I could easily resend or reprint out so that should be good enough

The other huge issue I'm having is that the visa time is running out, will they be able to give me an extension considering?

Also do I want to have my brown envelope sealed at the same time I ask for my visa to be put back in my passport or do I want to send in the brown envelope first, to make sure the visa will be put back in time?
 
Old Jun 20th 2011 | 4:45 am
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To make sure everything goes smoothly and it all gets done correctly, I would go IN PERSON to turn in the opened brown envelope, and to ask your questions face-to-face at the embassy. If you need an appointment to get this done, make one ASAP.

They WILL need to go through your opened brown envelope to make sure all the contents are there, and to see if anything looks like it's been altered. They WILL need to affix a new visa to your passport.

When you go to the appointment in person, make sure to mention that the visa expiration is nearing, and how they plan to handle it...will the new visa have the old expiration date, or a new one. I doubt if anyone here knows that answer...you'll have to ask them in person at your appointment.

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Old Jun 20th 2011 | 5:03 am
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Originally Posted by Noorah101
To make sure everything goes smoothly and it all gets done correctly, I would go IN PERSON to turn in the opened brown envelope, and to ask your questions face-to-face at the embassy. If you need an appointment to get this done, make one ASAP.

They WILL need to go through your opened brown envelope to make sure all the contents are there, and to see if anything looks like it's been altered. They WILL need to affix a new visa to your passport.

When you go to the appointment in person, make sure to mention that the visa expiration is nearing, and how they plan to handle it...will the new visa have the old expiration date, or a new one. I doubt if anyone here knows that answer...you'll have to ask them in person at your appointment.

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Actually going back there is going to be a huge problem, I live in the North of England and really don't have the money, or time off work, to go down there and get it sorted like that. I really need it to be done by mail.. Which is why I was happy when they said I could get it done like that, but now they're saying I need an appointment and this is really throwing everything out of whack for me

In general if you miss the visa deadline (the one printed in your passport), what do you normally do?
 
Old Jun 20th 2011 | 5:10 am
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Actually going back there is going to be a huge problem, I live in the North of England and really don't have the money, or time off work, to go down there and get it sorted like that. I really need it to be done by mail.. Which is why I was happy when they said I could get it done like that, but now they're saying I need an appointment and this is really throwing everything out of whack for me
After being on this forum for about 8 years now, I have seen a few cases like yours, where the Brown Envelope has been ripped or opened by mistake. They ALL had to appear in person again at the embassy to get it re-sealed. One such instance was in Russia, I believe, where the embassy was like a 2-day train ride away. They had to go back to the embassy in person to get the envelope sorted and resealed, even though it was far away and inconvenient.

Plus, you have the problem of needing an actual new visa in your new passport! They cannot do THAT by mail. They need to see that you are who you claim to be.

In general if you miss the visa deadline (the one printed in your passport), what do you normally do?
Start over.

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Old Jun 20th 2011 | 5:16 am
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I doubt very much that they'd reissue an immigrant class visa by mail.
 
Old Jun 20th 2011 | 7:08 am
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I will show you the first email I got as a response, when I didn't know I had missing documents, and I was asking about just having the visa reinstated and the envelope sealed:

"Dear *name*,



Have any pages been torn out of your passport? If yes, you will need a new passport. If no, and the K1 visa has been torn out as you described, then you will need a new visa. You will be required to pay a new fee of $350, please complete the credit card payment form, http://photos.state.gov/libraries/un...d_pre-auth.pdf submit with your passport, opened envelope and contents to this office together with a letter explaining what happened. Please contact DX Secure and arrange a collection on 0871 5626666. Upon receipt, we will re-seal the envelope and re-issue the visa.



Regards,



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London"

So all they need me to do is send it to them by mail? As that's what they said in this email
 
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And what does the 2nd response say? The one that says you need an appointment?

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Old Jun 20th 2011 | 7:33 am
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Originally Posted by Noorah101
And what does the 2nd response say? The one that says you need an appointment?

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I don't have a second response, they haven't replied yet

I have no response from them which says I need an appointment
 
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But you just said "but now they're saying I need an appointment". Is "they" not the Immigrant Visa unit?

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"Dear *name*,

Have any pages been torn out of your passport? If yes, you will need a new passport. If no, and the K1 visa has been torn out as you described, then you will need a new visa. You will be required to pay a new fee of $350, please complete the credit card payment form, http://photos.state.gov/libraries/un...d_pre-auth.pdf submit with your passport, opened envelope and contents to this office together with a letter explaining what happened. Please contact DX Secure and arrange a collection on 0871 5626666. Upon receipt, we will re-seal the envelope and re-issue the visa.

Regards,

IV Unit
London"
It sounds like the by-mail instructions are only for if you can answer "no" to "have any pages been torn out of your passport". Though how you could have the visa torn out without losing any pages is unclear to me.
 
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When I managed to talk to someone very quickly, they told me I would need another appointment to get my Visa reinstated....
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I don't have a second response, they haven't replied yet

I have no response from them which says I need an appointment
You might not have it in writing, but you quoted above that someone told you on the phone that you need an appointment....

The choice is yours, really. My advice is to go in person, that's what I would do if it were me. If it's too inconvenient for you to do that, then try it by DX Secure and hope for the best.

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Originally Posted by Noorah101
You might not have it in writing, but you quoted above that someone told you on the phone that you need an appointment....

The choice is yours, really. My advice is to go in person, that's what I would do if it were me. If it's too inconvenient for you to do that, then try it by DX Secure and hope for the best.

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But you just said "but now they're saying I need an appointment". Is "they" not the Immigrant Visa unit?



It sounds like the by-mail instructions are only for if you can answer "no" to "have any pages been torn out of your passport". Though how you could have the visa torn out without losing any pages is unclear to me.
They told my fiance, because he was the one who phoned this morning, that I would need an appointment. However, after talking to him, I think he gave them the impression that we were asking in general how do you get a Visa, as he didn't explain very well I already had it. But he's planning on phoning them again tomorrow

And, I did have my page not ripped out but I had the visa ripped out. Because it was a sticker, and one of the edges came over the side and that gave way to being able to tear it. That's how
 
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And, I did have my page not ripped out but I had the visa ripped out. Because it was a sticker, and one of the edges came over the side and that gave way to being able to tear it. That's how
Oh, I see - so the sticker was ripped off of the page, but all the pages are still there. Well, it sounds like you should be able to follow the instructions that they emailed to you about what to do in that situation. I'd recommend doing that instead of calling the number again. You've got detailed instructions in writing which is better than the verbal vague guess you'll get on the phone.
 
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And, I did have my page not ripped out but I had the visa ripped out. Because it was a sticker, and one of the edges came over the side and that gave way to being able to tear it. That's how
None of us knew this before. You said the visa was torn out and since we all know what visas look like, I'm sure others as well as me couldn't see how the visa could come out w/out a pp page also coming out.

Well, you have your choices in front of you; there is no one clear-cut answer we can supply to you, so this is one of those calls that you are going to have to make.

It sounds like an all around bad situation to me. I'd want to be getting out ASAP.
 

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