AOS and Visa Waiver
Apr 25th 2005, 4:27 am
#16
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Re: AOS and Visa Waiver
Originally Posted by Folinskyinla
I'm mourn your uncle who was a hero -- but I think he'd want that American family to be together.
If you would have asked me prior to 9/11 about the Overstay - AOS situation, I would have to be honest and say I "what does it matter" families just want to be together.
After 9/11 - I have very different views.. Seeing that 9/11 affected our family directly and something that will take a very long time for us to get over.
Although my uncle is a hero to my family, he say he didn't even come close.. the real heros are fighting for our country.
Apr 25th 2005, 4:42 am
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Re: AOS and Visa Waiver
Originally Posted by 1Duckie
My uncle would most likely agree with you, but that is the kind of person he was.
If you would have asked me prior to 9/11 about the Overstay - AOS situation, I would have to be honest and say I "what does it matter" families just want to be together.
After 9/11 - I have very different views.. Seeing that 9/11 affected our family directly and something that will take a very long time for us to get over.
Although my uncle is a hero to my family, he say he didn't even come close.. the real heros are fighting for our country.
If you would have asked me prior to 9/11 about the Overstay - AOS situation, I would have to be honest and say I "what does it matter" families just want to be together.
After 9/11 - I have very different views.. Seeing that 9/11 affected our family directly and something that will take a very long time for us to get over.
Although my uncle is a hero to my family, he say he didn't even come close.. the real heros are fighting for our country.
I just can not get my head around how someone becomes that more dangerous once they overstay any visa.
And if you have evil intent not that difficult to enter illegally, current estimate is 11m ish?.
And the last sentence is definitely OT.
Apr 25th 2005, 5:47 am
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Re: AOS and Visa Waiver
Originally Posted by Boiler
I go with Mr F
I just can not get my head around how someone becomes that more dangerous once they overstay any visa.
And if you have evil intent not that difficult to enter illegally, current estimate is 11m ish?.
And the last sentence is definitely OT.
I just can not get my head around how someone becomes that more dangerous once they overstay any visa.
And if you have evil intent not that difficult to enter illegally, current estimate is 11m ish?.
And the last sentence is definitely OT.
Those are your words not mine. I have my views on people that overstay and you have yours.
My view is:
There is a great POSSIBILTIY that one day a person associated with a "sleeper cell" may one day need to adjust so that they can legally stay in the country. Again this is a possiblity and it only takes ONE.
If you want to twist my words.. go ahead.... again I have my views and you are entitled to yours.. respectfully......
Apr 25th 2005, 6:45 am
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Re: AOS and Visa Waiver
Originally Posted by 1Duckie
Never did I say that overstaying makes a person have evil intent, nor did I ever say that one becomes more dangerous once they overstay their visa.
Those are your words not mine. I have my views on people that overstay and you have yours.
My view is:
There is a great POSSIBILTIY that one day a person associated with a "sleeper cell" may one day need to adjust so that they can legally stay in the country. Again this is a possiblity and it only takes ONE.
If you want to twist my words.. go ahead.... again I have my views and you are entitled to yours.. respectfully......
Those are your words not mine. I have my views on people that overstay and you have yours.
My view is:
There is a great POSSIBILTIY that one day a person associated with a "sleeper cell" may one day need to adjust so that they can legally stay in the country. Again this is a possiblity and it only takes ONE.
If you want to twist my words.. go ahead.... again I have my views and you are entitled to yours.. respectfully......
Apr 25th 2005, 4:04 pm
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Re: AOS and Visa Waiver
Originally Posted by Boiler
Weird, you accuse me of misrepresenting your position and then say pretty much what I had been accussed of.
Apr 25th 2005, 4:38 pm
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Re: AOS and Visa Waiver
Originally Posted by 1Duckie
My view is:
There is a great POSSIBILTIY that one day a person associated with a "sleeper cell" may one day need to adjust so that they can legally stay in the country. Again this is a possiblity and it only takes ONE.
There is a great POSSIBILTIY that one day a person associated with a "sleeper cell" may one day need to adjust so that they can legally stay in the country. Again this is a possiblity and it only takes ONE.
Apr 25th 2005, 4:40 pm
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Re: AOS and Visa Waiver
Originally Posted by Ray
You live in lala land ... Your knowledge of terrorism is plainly non-existant...
Apr 25th 2005, 5:07 pm
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Re: AOS and Visa Waiver
Originally Posted by fatbrit
She needs help Ray -- just don't think a forum is the best place for the therapy.
Apr 25th 2005, 5:37 pm
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Re: AOS and Visa Waiver
I have recently dusted off the bench; it is now OPEN for all takers to retire to.
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Apr 25th 2005, 5:53 pm
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Re: AOS and Visa Waiver
Originally Posted by Smaug
I don't really think people come here with their problems so that they can be Judged by others that are without full knowledge of their history or laws.
I'm sorry for the loss of your uncle, but I'm just as sorry for all of the other people who were injured or died from that tragedy... and those people were of many nations, not just American.
Someone who overstays their visa, or VWP, is not automatically a terrorist.
Kind rgds and respect,
Smaug
I'm sorry for the loss of your uncle, but I'm just as sorry for all of the other people who were injured or died from that tragedy... and those people were of many nations, not just American.
Someone who overstays their visa, or VWP, is not automatically a terrorist.
Kind rgds and respect,
Smaug
Apr 25th 2005, 5:53 pm
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Re: AOS and Visa Waiver
Originally Posted by Ray
You live in lala land ... Your knowledge of terrorism is plainly non-existant...
Last edited by 1Duckie; Apr 25th 2005 at 5:57 pm.
Apr 25th 2005, 5:56 pm
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Re: AOS and Visa Waiver
Originally Posted by evoal2003
Back on the bench please, she has enough rope.
If you care not for the security of this country.. then you are not american.. oh thats right.. you may be an immigrant..
Apr 25th 2005, 5:59 pm
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Re: AOS and Visa Waiver
Originally Posted by 1Duckie
And your experience with terriorism is... what?
Apr 25th 2005, 6:12 pm
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Re: AOS and Visa Waiver
Originally Posted by Manc
ever heard of the IRA?
Had to put my pennys worth in sorry.
Whiskers.
Apr 25th 2005, 6:13 pm
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Re: AOS and Visa Waiver
Originally Posted by Manc
ever heard of the IRA?
This has be come a HATE site and I do not wish to be part of it anymore.