AOS vaccinations
Jan 20th 2003, 9:14 pm
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AOS vaccinations
I have my AOS interview later this year and still have some confusion
about the vaccinations that are required.
The INS website states that the requirements are as follows: mumps,
measles, rubella, polio, tetanus, diphtheria toxoids, pertussis,
influenza type B, hepatitis B ... varicella, haemophilius inlfuenzae
type B, and pneumococcal vaccines.
Posts on this newsgroup seem to state to the contrary.
Am I really expected to get 10+ shots or am I missing something?
DJ
about the vaccinations that are required.
The INS website states that the requirements are as follows: mumps,
measles, rubella, polio, tetanus, diphtheria toxoids, pertussis,
influenza type B, hepatitis B ... varicella, haemophilius inlfuenzae
type B, and pneumococcal vaccines.
Posts on this newsgroup seem to state to the contrary.
Am I really expected to get 10+ shots or am I missing something?
DJ
Jan 20th 2003, 9:59 pm
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I was thinking the same but didn't get any shots although my vaccination record shows I had 1 MMR (mumps,measles & rubella) and 1 hepatitis B shot. The only they did really was blood test and TB.
Jan 20th 2003, 10:23 pm
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Re: AOS vaccinations
Some kind soul posted this link in the last day or two:
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dq/pdf/cs_va_1.pdf
If you don't have satisfactory proof then you may need to re-do some. HepB
should only be required for school age children (at least that was the case
when I did my AOS at end of 2000).
Here is the chart that the US Embassy in the UK uses:
http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_web...ccinechart.htm
They seem a bit confused about the varicella - at the time I got my K1 that
was not required for any age group. Maybe others can comment.
"Dave J." wrote in message
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> I have my AOS interview later this year and still have some confusion
> about the vaccinations that are required.
> The INS website states that the requirements are as follows: mumps,
> measles, rubella, polio, tetanus, diphtheria toxoids, pertussis,
> influenza type B, hepatitis B ... varicella, haemophilius inlfuenzae
> type B, and pneumococcal vaccines.
> Posts on this newsgroup seem to state to the contrary.
> Am I really expected to get 10+ shots or am I missing something?
> DJ
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dq/pdf/cs_va_1.pdf
If you don't have satisfactory proof then you may need to re-do some. HepB
should only be required for school age children (at least that was the case
when I did my AOS at end of 2000).
Here is the chart that the US Embassy in the UK uses:
http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_web...ccinechart.htm
They seem a bit confused about the varicella - at the time I got my K1 that
was not required for any age group. Maybe others can comment.
"Dave J." wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have my AOS interview later this year and still have some confusion
> about the vaccinations that are required.
> The INS website states that the requirements are as follows: mumps,
> measles, rubella, polio, tetanus, diphtheria toxoids, pertussis,
> influenza type B, hepatitis B ... varicella, haemophilius inlfuenzae
> type B, and pneumococcal vaccines.
> Posts on this newsgroup seem to state to the contrary.
> Am I really expected to get 10+ shots or am I missing something?
> DJ
Jan 20th 2003, 10:24 pm
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I asked the question at my medical exam on the day of my interview in London (K1). The rquirements vary according to age......in my case I need only Adult Diptheria and Tetanus. There is a link on this Board to the London Embassy which gives all the info on necessary vaccinations. If you are not UK then you might want to check the relevant Embassy website.
Jan 20th 2003, 11:34 pm
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Re: AOS vaccinations
"Sara999" wrote in
news:Nx%W9.762237$WL3.751926@rwcrnsc54:
> Here is the chart that the US Embassy in the UK uses:
>
> http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_web...ccinechart.htm
>
> They seem a bit confused about the varicella - at the time I got my K1
> that was not required for any age group. Maybe others can comment.
Yeah, it should say "No" in both age groups. Varicella is no longer given
in the UK (both my mother - a nurse - and GP confirmed this to me).
However, if you're then going to get the vaccination supplement from a
recommended person in the US, as seems to be required now, it's entirely
possible that you'll have to fork out for the varicella jab as well.
Personally, at the risk of a rebuttal of the AoS application, I'm not
going to get the vaccination supplement done. The documentation the field
office has includes a medical report by a recommended panel physician
which includes a complete vaccination record; the impression I get from
everything I've read is that the vaccination supplement is at the behest
of the CDC rather than of their own accord, and I can't see why they need
two copies of the same thing at their interview. If I'm asked for it I'll
point that out. It's not like they don't milk enough money out of this
already without supplementing the physicians' *ahem* meagre wages with
unnecessary tat.
Also, I couldn't find a direct contact number for the field office, so if
they're not prepared to be contactable I'm not going to contact them.
It's not like the central information number is going to be any help.
--
Targaff
news:Nx%W9.762237$WL3.751926@rwcrnsc54:
> Here is the chart that the US Embassy in the UK uses:
>
> http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_web...ccinechart.htm
>
> They seem a bit confused about the varicella - at the time I got my K1
> that was not required for any age group. Maybe others can comment.
Yeah, it should say "No" in both age groups. Varicella is no longer given
in the UK (both my mother - a nurse - and GP confirmed this to me).
However, if you're then going to get the vaccination supplement from a
recommended person in the US, as seems to be required now, it's entirely
possible that you'll have to fork out for the varicella jab as well.
Personally, at the risk of a rebuttal of the AoS application, I'm not
going to get the vaccination supplement done. The documentation the field
office has includes a medical report by a recommended panel physician
which includes a complete vaccination record; the impression I get from
everything I've read is that the vaccination supplement is at the behest
of the CDC rather than of their own accord, and I can't see why they need
two copies of the same thing at their interview. If I'm asked for it I'll
point that out. It's not like they don't milk enough money out of this
already without supplementing the physicians' *ahem* meagre wages with
unnecessary tat.
Also, I couldn't find a direct contact number for the field office, so if
they're not prepared to be contactable I'm not going to contact them.
It's not like the central information number is going to be any help.
--
Targaff
Jan 20th 2003, 11:37 pm
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Re: AOS vaccinations
[email protected] (Dave J.) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> The INS website states that the requirements are as follows: mumps,
> measles, rubella, polio, tetanus, diphtheria toxoids, pertussis,
> influenza type B, hepatitis B ... varicella, haemophilius inlfuenzae
> type B, and pneumococcal vaccines.
Just to note that the documetation indicates that only the first ones are
really necessary; the rest - varicella and flu, basically - are
recommended rather than required. It may well be that you'll have to have
them, though, depending on where you're coming from.
I was also amused to see that the paperwork states that you shouldn't try
to get up to date with your jabs, etc. before seeing the surgeon. My
personal advice to this is that it's bullshit - if you can get the jabs
for free or less from your own medical advisor rather than at an inflated
price from a panel physician, go for it; that's what I did, avoided a
bundle of costs.
--
Targaff
news:[email protected]:
> The INS website states that the requirements are as follows: mumps,
> measles, rubella, polio, tetanus, diphtheria toxoids, pertussis,
> influenza type B, hepatitis B ... varicella, haemophilius inlfuenzae
> type B, and pneumococcal vaccines.
Just to note that the documetation indicates that only the first ones are
really necessary; the rest - varicella and flu, basically - are
recommended rather than required. It may well be that you'll have to have
them, though, depending on where you're coming from.
I was also amused to see that the paperwork states that you shouldn't try
to get up to date with your jabs, etc. before seeing the surgeon. My
personal advice to this is that it's bullshit - if you can get the jabs
for free or less from your own medical advisor rather than at an inflated
price from a panel physician, go for it; that's what I did, avoided a
bundle of costs.
--
Targaff
Jan 21st 2003, 1:12 am
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Joined: Jan 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 40
Re: AOS vaccinations
Originally posted by Dave J.
I have my AOS interview later this year and still have some confusion
about the vaccinations that are required.
The INS website states that the requirements are as follows: mumps,
measles, rubella, polio, tetanus, diphtheria toxoids, pertussis,
influenza type B, hepatitis B ... varicella, haemophilius inlfuenzae
type B, and pneumococcal vaccines.
Posts on this newsgroup seem to state to the contrary.
Am I really expected to get 10+ shots or am I missing something?
DJ
I have my AOS interview later this year and still have some confusion
about the vaccinations that are required.
The INS website states that the requirements are as follows: mumps,
measles, rubella, polio, tetanus, diphtheria toxoids, pertussis,
influenza type B, hepatitis B ... varicella, haemophilius inlfuenzae
type B, and pneumococcal vaccines.
Posts on this newsgroup seem to state to the contrary.
Am I really expected to get 10+ shots or am I missing something?
DJ
Jan 21st 2003, 2:18 am
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Re: AOS vaccinations
"Dave J." wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have my AOS interview later this year and still have some confusion
> about the vaccinations that are required.
> The INS website states that the requirements are as follows: mumps,
> measles, rubella, polio, tetanus, diphtheria toxoids, pertussis,
> influenza type B, hepatitis B ... varicella, haemophilius inlfuenzae
> type B, and pneumococcal vaccines.
> Posts on this newsgroup seem to state to the contrary.
> Am I really expected to get 10+ shots or am I missing something?
Depends what you have gotten earlier. Are you from a "civilized" country,
most likely you did get most of them as a kid.
news:[email protected]...
> I have my AOS interview later this year and still have some confusion
> about the vaccinations that are required.
> The INS website states that the requirements are as follows: mumps,
> measles, rubella, polio, tetanus, diphtheria toxoids, pertussis,
> influenza type B, hepatitis B ... varicella, haemophilius inlfuenzae
> type B, and pneumococcal vaccines.
> Posts on this newsgroup seem to state to the contrary.
> Am I really expected to get 10+ shots or am I missing something?
Depends what you have gotten earlier. Are you from a "civilized" country,
most likely you did get most of them as a kid.
Jan 21st 2003, 5:00 pm
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Joined: Jan 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 40
Re: AOS vaccinations
Originally posted by Targaff
[email protected] (Dave J.) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> The INS website states that the requirements are as follows: mumps,
> measles, rubella, polio, tetanus, diphtheria toxoids, pertussis,
> influenza type B, hepatitis B ... varicella, haemophilius inlfuenzae
> type B, and pneumococcal vaccines.
Just to note that the documetation indicates that only the first ones are
really necessary; the rest - varicella and flu, basically - are
recommended rather than required. It may well be that you'll have to have
them, though, depending on where you're coming from.
I was also amused to see that the paperwork states that you shouldn't try
to get up to date with your jabs, etc. before seeing the surgeon. My
personal advice to this is that it's bullshit - if you can get the jabs
for free or less from your own medical advisor rather than at an inflated
price from a panel physician, go for it; that's what I did, avoided a
bundle of costs.
--
Targaff
[email protected] (Dave J.) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> The INS website states that the requirements are as follows: mumps,
> measles, rubella, polio, tetanus, diphtheria toxoids, pertussis,
> influenza type B, hepatitis B ... varicella, haemophilius inlfuenzae
> type B, and pneumococcal vaccines.
Just to note that the documetation indicates that only the first ones are
really necessary; the rest - varicella and flu, basically - are
recommended rather than required. It may well be that you'll have to have
them, though, depending on where you're coming from.
I was also amused to see that the paperwork states that you shouldn't try
to get up to date with your jabs, etc. before seeing the surgeon. My
personal advice to this is that it's bullshit - if you can get the jabs
for free or less from your own medical advisor rather than at an inflated
price from a panel physician, go for it; that's what I did, avoided a
bundle of costs.
--
Targaff
He may have been just blowing smoke to get the extra bucks from me, who knows... but I figured it would be better to safe than sorry.
Jan 21st 2003, 7:02 pm
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Re: AOS vaccinations
When I went to the INS app Doctor last week, her only concerns were proof of
having already had chicken pox and seeing documentation of vaccinations from my
UK doctor. I had a tetanus and MMR prior to coming, for no cost, at my doctors
surgery. Though my younger daughter needed boosters for Tetatanus and a second
MMR (apparently you have to have had 2 of these as a child). The INS DR said I
could take her to the health centre and have them done at no cost and return
with the documentation.
One last thing she told me, was that I had no need to have started the
Hepatitis course as it was not a requirement. This was news to me. So she
signed all the forms and we we done. A very helpful lady indeed.
regards,
Jacqueline
having already had chicken pox and seeing documentation of vaccinations from my
UK doctor. I had a tetanus and MMR prior to coming, for no cost, at my doctors
surgery. Though my younger daughter needed boosters for Tetatanus and a second
MMR (apparently you have to have had 2 of these as a child). The INS DR said I
could take her to the health centre and have them done at no cost and return
with the documentation.
One last thing she told me, was that I had no need to have started the
Hepatitis course as it was not a requirement. This was news to me. So she
signed all the forms and we we done. A very helpful lady indeed.
regards,
Jacqueline
Jan 21st 2003, 9:05 pm
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Re: AOS vaccinations
Almost_Texanish wrote in
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> The INS physician that I got my shots from said even if I had them
> done by my family practitioner here in the US that he would still
> have to give me those same shots because they weren't done by an INS
> civil surgeon.
>
> He may have been just blowing smoke to get the extra bucks from me, who
> knows... but I figured it would be better to safe than sorry.
Isn't that, like... dangerous? I was always warned off getting certain
injections precisely because I'd already had them previously. Some of
them seem to be okay, e.g. tetanus, but others I definitely wouldn't have
repeats of. If you had a vaccination record signed by a practitioner
confirming that you'd had the injections, then I don't see what right the
surgeon would have to do anything but confirm that you'd had them on the
vaccination supplement unless you specifically asked them for a booster;
which any good physician would of course refuse without good cause.
--
Targaff
news:[email protected]:
> The INS physician that I got my shots from said even if I had them
> done by my family practitioner here in the US that he would still
> have to give me those same shots because they weren't done by an INS
> civil surgeon.
>
> He may have been just blowing smoke to get the extra bucks from me, who
> knows... but I figured it would be better to safe than sorry.
Isn't that, like... dangerous? I was always warned off getting certain
injections precisely because I'd already had them previously. Some of
them seem to be okay, e.g. tetanus, but others I definitely wouldn't have
repeats of. If you had a vaccination record signed by a practitioner
confirming that you'd had the injections, then I don't see what right the
surgeon would have to do anything but confirm that you'd had them on the
vaccination supplement unless you specifically asked them for a booster;
which any good physician would of course refuse without good cause.
--
Targaff
Jan 21st 2003, 9:25 pm
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Re: AOS vaccinations
I asked my doctor about that when I was there the other day (about repeating
vaccinations if I'd already had them) ... she said no big deal - they'll
have no effect.
"Targaff" wrote in message
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> Almost_Texanish wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
> > The INS physician that I got my shots from said even if I had them
> > done by my family practitioner here in the US that he would still
> > have to give me those same shots because they weren't done by an INS
> > civil surgeon.
> >
> > He may have been just blowing smoke to get the extra bucks from me, who
> > knows... but I figured it would be better to safe than sorry.
> Isn't that, like... dangerous? I was always warned off getting certain
> injections precisely because I'd already had them previously. Some of
> them seem to be okay, e.g. tetanus, but others I definitely wouldn't have
> repeats of. If you had a vaccination record signed by a practitioner
> confirming that you'd had the injections, then I don't see what right the
> surgeon would have to do anything but confirm that you'd had them on the
> vaccination supplement unless you specifically asked them for a booster;
> which any good physician would of course refuse without good cause.
> --
> Targaff
vaccinations if I'd already had them) ... she said no big deal - they'll
have no effect.
"Targaff" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Almost_Texanish wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
> > The INS physician that I got my shots from said even if I had them
> > done by my family practitioner here in the US that he would still
> > have to give me those same shots because they weren't done by an INS
> > civil surgeon.
> >
> > He may have been just blowing smoke to get the extra bucks from me, who
> > knows... but I figured it would be better to safe than sorry.
> Isn't that, like... dangerous? I was always warned off getting certain
> injections precisely because I'd already had them previously. Some of
> them seem to be okay, e.g. tetanus, but others I definitely wouldn't have
> repeats of. If you had a vaccination record signed by a practitioner
> confirming that you'd had the injections, then I don't see what right the
> surgeon would have to do anything but confirm that you'd had them on the
> vaccination supplement unless you specifically asked them for a booster;
> which any good physician would of course refuse without good cause.
> --
> Targaff
Jan 22nd 2003, 4:41 pm
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Re: AOS vaccinations
"Cdn chick" wrote in
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> I asked my doctor about that when I was there the other day (about
> repeating vaccinations if I'd already had them) ... she said no big
> deal - they'll have no effect.
I suppose given that vaccines involve giving you a small amount of whatever
it is to stop you catching it means that being given another small amount
of whatever it is isn't going to do much.
Still wouldn't have it done twice because someone isn't prepared to accept
the word of another doctor, though.
--
Targaff
news:[email protected]:
> I asked my doctor about that when I was there the other day (about
> repeating vaccinations if I'd already had them) ... she said no big
> deal - they'll have no effect.
I suppose given that vaccines involve giving you a small amount of whatever
it is to stop you catching it means that being given another small amount
of whatever it is isn't going to do much.
Still wouldn't have it done twice because someone isn't prepared to accept
the word of another doctor, though.
--
Targaff
Jan 22nd 2003, 9:41 pm
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Well maybe I should have read this thread before having my Varicella vaccine today! Even though I had chicken pox as a child, it would have been twice as expensive for me to get a US physician to do a consultation and a titer test to see if I have antibodies, so I just paid 60 dollars for the first of 2 Varicella shots. I'm hoping that now I can just go to the INS approved doctor and get him to sign my vaccination records, and then that's another part of AOS not to worry about.
Peace,
D.
Peace,
D.
Jan 22nd 2003, 9:49 pm
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Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 128
Hi everyone,
I am on the same boat.
Currently waiting for my records coming from my family doctor in my home country confirming that I had varicella when I was 9.... the rest of the shots I already had them here or when I was a child.... This is so frustrating and annoying. Specially to seat down and wait without being able to apply for AOS and so with no EAD ...
Anyway, sorry about the complaint ;-)
best,
groovy
I am on the same boat.
Currently waiting for my records coming from my family doctor in my home country confirming that I had varicella when I was 9.... the rest of the shots I already had them here or when I was a child.... This is so frustrating and annoying. Specially to seat down and wait without being able to apply for AOS and so with no EAD ...
Anyway, sorry about the complaint ;-)
best,
groovy