Advise needed
Jul 14th 2008, 3:32 am
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Ok lotta stuff to catch up on there...
Basically the original intention of posting was to get a clear idea on when would be appropriate or possible for filing for the k1 visa, other things are obviously going to play a part in the issue, but in the way things stand.
Mothers bf should be fine for support, as has been stated they are definitely dependant on my gf's mother (who does work - full time more or less) the bf has two children who are "dependant" on him and are included in the tax returns.
Altho yes the house is rented in his name it is part shared with the mother, so dont see how that would come into it.
Alas the other issue...is sketchy. But ive mentioned before we slept in seperate rooms on our visits and she is not pregnant with my child. That kind of case as said before would be bought up by her mother or herself to even be taken into effect. You do not see police arresting young people under 18 on the street or otherwise for having a relationship.
At the moment as it stands people seem to think this is MAJORLY out of reach. But the requirements will be met in the end.
Note: If needed we will wait until she turns 18 before doing anything.
Basically the original intention of posting was to get a clear idea on when would be appropriate or possible for filing for the k1 visa, other things are obviously going to play a part in the issue, but in the way things stand.
Mothers bf should be fine for support, as has been stated they are definitely dependant on my gf's mother (who does work - full time more or less) the bf has two children who are "dependant" on him and are included in the tax returns.
Altho yes the house is rented in his name it is part shared with the mother, so dont see how that would come into it.
Alas the other issue...is sketchy. But ive mentioned before we slept in seperate rooms on our visits and she is not pregnant with my child. That kind of case as said before would be bought up by her mother or herself to even be taken into effect. You do not see police arresting young people under 18 on the street or otherwise for having a relationship.
At the moment as it stands people seem to think this is MAJORLY out of reach. But the requirements will be met in the end.
Note: If needed we will wait until she turns 18 before doing anything.
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Jul 14th 2008, 3:47 am
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You won't see young people under the age of 18 being arrested for having sex, as long as they are technically old enough to consent to sex. And even then, I think there is some option that parents (generally the girls' parents) can exercise that could land the guy in jail. If the guy (or girl) is over 18, it may not take her parents to complain. I think someone from the general public can complain, if they think that you are having a sexual relationship with someone that much younger than you.
I commend you for wanting to follow your heart, but I wonder if you are letting yourself in for a world of hurt. Getting married at such a young age (esp for her), without getting the time for each of you to 'grow up' a bit, and with the family complications, will not be easy on your relationship. I hope you are both mature enough to handle all of this. My folks had me (as an 'accident') when my mom was barely 16, my father was 18. They did the 'right thing' and got married, but the constant financial struggle, on top of the stress of having children so young in their relationship finally took a toll, and they divorced when I was 17. And this was without the additional complication of immigration and a sexual assault.
Every relationship is different and not all of them will fail, so I hope you do some serious thinking before jumping feet first into a new country, into a potentially difficult start in your marriage.
Jul 14th 2008, 3:59 am
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What if i was to fly out there and we get married ..i return and we file for the spousal visa? 
Jul 14th 2008, 4:02 am
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The guidance on determining household size changed when the final regulations implementing I-864 were issued a year or two ago. Previously, under the interim regulations, any relative living under the same roof was to be counted. But that is changed in the final regulation.
Compare the current I-864 instructions with the prior instructions, if you can find an older version. And, the current instructions are much more comprehensive and informative than the old ones were.
Regards, JEff
Compare the current I-864 instructions with the prior instructions, if you can find an older version. And, the current instructions are much more comprehensive and informative than the old ones were.
Regards, JEff
You could be right, but all the advice I've ever read on here about how to calculate household size has always been to include everyone who lives under the same roof, plus any dependent children who do not live with you. As Ian said, if grandma lives in the same house, even with her own income, you would include her on the AOS because she lives under the same roof.
To get clarification though, he defo needs to go to a consulation with an attorney.
By the way, Tommy, even if you have 2 co-sponsors (i.e. your wife, plus 2 more), each co-sponsor must qualify individually. So you cannot add up all their incomes to sponsor you. If each sponsor has a household of 3 (including you) then they must make enough for a household of 3 according to the guidelines.
To get clarification though, he defo needs to go to a consulation with an attorney.
By the way, Tommy, even if you have 2 co-sponsors (i.e. your wife, plus 2 more), each co-sponsor must qualify individually. So you cannot add up all their incomes to sponsor you. If each sponsor has a household of 3 (including you) then they must make enough for a household of 3 according to the guidelines.
Jul 14th 2008, 4:04 am
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Jul 14th 2008, 4:06 am
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Mr. F already discussed the issues involved there. Because the I-864 is a contract, your minor wife wouldn't be able to sign it.
The Petitioner of an I-130, in this case your future wife, must file an I-864 for you, even though you would be using a joint sponsor.
[Mr. F, please correct me, if I incorrectly summarized your earlier posts]
Jul 14th 2008, 4:12 am
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Your *wife* would need to submit the I-864, Affidavit of Support.
Mr. F already discussed the issues involved there. Because the I-864 is a contract, your minor wife wouldn't be able to sign it.
The Petitioner of an I-130, in this case your future wife, must file an I-864 for you, even though you would be using a joint sponsor.
[Mr. F, please correct me, if I incorrectly summarized your earlier posts]
Mr. F already discussed the issues involved there. Because the I-864 is a contract, your minor wife wouldn't be able to sign it.
The Petitioner of an I-130, in this case your future wife, must file an I-864 for you, even though you would be using a joint sponsor.
[Mr. F, please correct me, if I incorrectly summarized your earlier posts]
Sorry to all if this is getting abit tedious
just wish things were easier. but alas seems theres not much we can do...unless we can somehow get around it without hassle
Jul 14th 2008, 4:14 am
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Did you rule out the possibility of going to Uni in Wisconsin? [you would need to prove you were planning to come back to the UK, as discussed]
Jul 14th 2008, 4:21 am
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Jul 14th 2008, 4:22 am
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as for ties back home, theres not much other than living with my parents still and having family here.
that and 2 1/2 k fee for filing with the laywers
Jul 14th 2008, 4:30 am
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Ouch. I wouldn't go this part alone, even though F-1s are generally straight forward. Given your situation with the GF it might be best to let the experts prove your ties to the UK.
Being denied a visa can cause future heartache.
Being denied a visa can cause future heartache.
Jul 14th 2008, 4:33 am
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Jul 14th 2008, 4:45 am
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Should be...but i have a really big headache right now just thinking about it lol! I'm going to direct my g/f to this thread and see what she thinks of it all, shes wise and will make up her own opinion.
But everyones been very helpful and i appreciate that!
But everyones been very helpful and i appreciate that!
Jul 14th 2008, 7:40 am
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I believe the OP stated that the father will most likely be paying child support (possibly will be forced to do so, as he doesn't want anything to do with the child). With this in mind, he will have rights (like those you discussed earlier about being able to keep his child w/in 100 miles), although he probably won't be too interested in them.
OP also discussed adopting the child when/if he becomes a citizen --- thereby the father, if agrees, would reliquish any rights he does have.
OP also discussed adopting the child when/if he becomes a citizen --- thereby the father, if agrees, would reliquish any rights he does have.
But if the OP's name ends up on the baby's birth certificate, though, then by default he's considered the baby's "father," right -- unless they also plan on having a DNA test done to confirm that he's NOT the father. And wouldn't that then complicate things further if he's listed on the birth certificate?
I'm no expert, but it seems like he's treading very close to quicksand, in my opinion.
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I'm no expert, but it seems like he's treading very close to quicksand, in my opinion.
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Seems a good one to run by a family attorney imo, far to complicated for my brain.
Jul 14th 2008, 1:29 pm
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