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This seems to be the case, but i also have read up on Emancipation. If she did this then it seems it would get around that?
Emancipation in the United States
Emancipation is not available in every state in the United States. Where it is available, emancipation is a legal process by which minors can attain legal adulthood before reaching the age at which they would normally be considered adults (this is called the “age of majority”). The rights granted to legally emancipated minors might include the ability to sign legally binding contracts, own property, and keep one’s own earnings. However, each state has different laws governing emancipation and some states simply have no law or legal process concerning emancipation. In states where minors wishing to become legally emancipated will have to break new legal ground.
This page is designed to give minors information on the laws and available legal processes regulating emancipation in their state. The information is based on available state legal statutes and in some cases also includes information obtained from various legal aid organizations in that state. Some states have different legal terms for emancipation and can also differ in their definition of the rights granted to an emancipated minor.
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Yes that apparently would work, but I suspect it is a bit of a commotion. If it's available in Wiscon. Also, I think the minor has to prove there is a good reason.
I would really suggest that you two consult another immigration attorney, perhaps one here in the US (much cheaper) and see what your best options are.
I realise 16-year-olds are pretty much considered adults in the UK. In the US, they are certainly not, and are generally pretty immature. I am not making any comment about your girlfriend, just wanting you to realise that people (perhaps in including attorneys) might be fairly skeptica that this is a good idea.
This seems to be the case, but i also have read up on Emancipation. If she did this then it seems it would get around that?
Emancipation in the United States
Emancipation is not available in every state in the United States. Where it is available, emancipation is a legal process by which minors can attain legal adulthood before reaching the age at which they would normally be considered adults (this is called the “age of majority”). The rights granted to legally emancipated minors might include the ability to sign legally binding contracts, own property, and keep one’s own earnings. However, each state has different laws governing emancipation and some states simply have no law or legal process concerning emancipation. In states where minors wishing to become legally emancipated will have to break new legal ground.
This page is designed to give minors information on the laws and available legal processes regulating emancipation in their state. The information is based on available state legal statutes and in some cases also includes information obtained from various legal aid organizations in that state. Some states have different legal terms for emancipation and can also differ in their definition of the rights granted to an emancipated minor.
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Yes that apparently would work, but I suspect it is a bit of a commotion. If it's available in Wiscon. Also, I think the minor has to prove there is a good reason.
I would really suggest that you two consult another immigration attorney, perhaps one here in the US (much cheaper) and see what your best options are.
I realise 16-year-olds are pretty much considered adults in the UK. In the US, they are certainly not, and are generally pretty immature. I am not making any comment about your girlfriend, just wanting you to realise that people (perhaps in including attorneys) might be fairly skeptica that this is a good idea.
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True, we will contact an attorney in the U.S and see what they have to say, but everyone so far has been helpful and good to see people willing to help others out when they need it.
Were not too bothered about the long journey, the being seperated when she needs me most is the dis-heartning part of it all.
but as californian said we may just wait until shes 17 before filing (i will visit her on the wvp in the mean time)
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Yes that apparently would work, but I suspect it is a bit of a commotion. If it's available in Wiscon. Also, I think the minor has to prove there is a good reason.
I would really suggest that you two consult another immigration attorney, perhaps one here in the US (much cheaper) and see what your best options are.
I realise 16-year-olds are pretty much considered adults in the UK. In the US, they are certainly not, and are generally pretty immature. I am not making any comment about your girlfriend, just wanting you to realise that people (perhaps in including attorneys) might be fairly skeptica that this is a good idea.
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Yes that apparently would work, but I suspect it is a bit of a commotion. If it's available in Wiscon. Also, I think the minor has to prove there is a good reason.
I would really suggest that you two consult another immigration attorney, perhaps one here in the US (much cheaper) and see what your best options are.
I realise 16-year-olds are pretty much considered adults in the UK. In the US, they are certainly not, and are generally pretty immature. I am not making any comment about your girlfriend, just wanting you to realise that people (perhaps in including attorneys) might be fairly skeptica that this is a good idea.
Were not too bothered about the long journey, the being seperated when she needs me most is the dis-heartning part of it all.
but as californian said we may just wait until shes 17 before filing (i will visit her on the wvp in the mean time)
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True, we will contact an attorney in the U.S and see what they have to say, but everyone so far has been helpful and good to see people willing to help others out when they need it.
Were not too bothered about the long journey, the being seperated when she needs me most is the dis-heartning part of it all.
but as californian said we may just wait until shes 17 before filing (i will visit her on the wvp in the mean time)
What should concern you is if you have been having sex with her
on your visits ...one word in the wrong place ..you could be in jail as well ..
True, we will contact an attorney in the U.S and see what they have to say, but everyone so far has been helpful and good to see people willing to help others out when they need it.
Were not too bothered about the long journey, the being seperated when she needs me most is the dis-heartning part of it all.
but as californian said we may just wait until shes 17 before filing (i will visit her on the wvp in the mean time)
on your visits ...one word in the wrong place ..you could be in jail as well ..
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Stayed in seperate rooms upon visits. I doubt if given the question "Did you have sex" upon my answer would be "No" that they are going to somehow "prove" what isnt applicable. I guess they would need to do a lie detector test.
But i doubt anyone else has been in this situation processing a visa.
But i doubt anyone else has been in this situation processing a visa.
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I really doubt the u.s government are out to get a british citizen with no criminal record who has always followed the rules.
I fell in love with someone who's not 18 yet..if thats a crime they can put me away.
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Not something im heading into straight off the bat no questions asked...ive been looking into our options for a while. If we process when she's 17 by the time it's all done and processed she would be 18 anyway, in which case surely they arent going to dig something up from years ago? do you not agree with that.
I fell in love with someone who's not 18 yet..if thats a crime they can put me away.
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Just wanted to mention a detail that hasn't been mentioned. If we assume that she can file an I-864 for you, OP (once she turns 18), I assume that she will still need to use her folks as co-sponsors. I assume that because I assume she will still be living at home because she most likely wouldn't have much of an income being a single mother. Your future wife would still need to fill out an I-864 no matter what as she is considered your primary sponsor.
OP, if her mom or dad is the co-sponsor, when they fill out the I-864, they need to ensure the income is enough for the current size of the household, plus the immigrant. So, for a household of 5, the sponsor needs to make $31,000/yr. I got 5 people by assuming: Mom, Dad, girlfriend, baby, immigrant (the OP). If your girlfriend has any other siblings living in the home, they will have to be added to the household size, and the income requirements will be more.
You may not be thinking that far down the line, but the I-864 is one of the hardest requirements to meet when it comes to visas. I wouldn't want you to be disappointed if you find out your potential co-sponsor doesn't meet the requirements.
Personally, to save yourselves time and effort, I'd wait several months into 2010 to start the K1 process. This gives you more time to think about it, and research the requirements, and it gives her more time to think about it, as well as adjust to being a new mother, and it allows you to possibly overcome the age requirement since she more than likely would turn 18 by the time you would need to worry about the I-864. This approach is much easier, less time consuming and less expensive, than trying to fight your way through a legal battle for her to emancipate herself from her folks, or fighting USCIS about the requirement for an I-864. Save yourselves some headaches. Immigration is hard enough without throwing other twists into it (which it sounds like you already have plenty of).
OP, if her mom or dad is the co-sponsor, when they fill out the I-864, they need to ensure the income is enough for the current size of the household, plus the immigrant. So, for a household of 5, the sponsor needs to make $31,000/yr. I got 5 people by assuming: Mom, Dad, girlfriend, baby, immigrant (the OP). If your girlfriend has any other siblings living in the home, they will have to be added to the household size, and the income requirements will be more.
You may not be thinking that far down the line, but the I-864 is one of the hardest requirements to meet when it comes to visas. I wouldn't want you to be disappointed if you find out your potential co-sponsor doesn't meet the requirements.
Personally, to save yourselves time and effort, I'd wait several months into 2010 to start the K1 process. This gives you more time to think about it, and research the requirements, and it gives her more time to think about it, as well as adjust to being a new mother, and it allows you to possibly overcome the age requirement since she more than likely would turn 18 by the time you would need to worry about the I-864. This approach is much easier, less time consuming and less expensive, than trying to fight your way through a legal battle for her to emancipate herself from her folks, or fighting USCIS about the requirement for an I-864. Save yourselves some headaches. Immigration is hard enough without throwing other twists into it (which it sounds like you already have plenty of).
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Not only would he be out of status for a year (or more)... he can *not* work at all until he files for adjustment and receives an EAD. Further, he can't leave the US for any reason whatsoever or he'll find himself facing a 3- or 10-year ban from the US and, as we all know, having a USC wife won't make one whit of difference.
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Re. the SR, I doubt USCIS won't concern themselves with it --- it would be the Police that would be knocking on your door but I highly doubt if that if the parent's are willing to file an I-864 for you that they would be the ones who slipped this information to the Police.
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This and the I-864 have been discussed. If the OP waits to file his I-129 until his GF turns 17 and enters 9 months later he would then have 90 days to marry her and could subsequently file the I-864, as OP's GF would then be 18.
Re. the SR, I doubt USCIS won't concern themselves with it --- it would be the Police that would be knocking on your door but I highly doubt if that if the parent's are willing to file an I-864 for you that they would be the ones who slipped this information to the Police.
Re. the SR, I doubt USCIS won't concern themselves with it --- it would be the Police that would be knocking on your door but I highly doubt if that if the parent's are willing to file an I-864 for you that they would be the ones who slipped this information to the Police.
The SR is really a whole differnt subject, but doesnt make sense when you think about the fact that marriage is perfectly legal at 16 and then age of consent laws dont even come into it once married...
but those getting married at around that age would obviously of had a relationship leading up to that, would they then ask question's as to if they had sex because there getting married and then where is the proof?
Her parents fully trust me and have faith in our relationship otherwise they would not condone it or be willing to help, me and her mother are close as anything, that and with all her family.
Which have to ask another question...
her co-sponder will be her mother's bf (two of her sisters being from previous relationship) will they have to be added to the overall house hold income rules?
also can you have more than one co-sponsor?
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That is hopefully our plan but obviously some legal advise for us wont go a miss and is needed.
The SR is really a whole differnt subject, but doesnt make sense when you think about the fact that marriage is perfectly legal at 16 and then age of consent laws dont even come into it once married...
but those getting married at around that age would obviously of had a relationship leading up to that, would they then ask question's as to if they had sex because there getting married and then where is the proof?
Her parents fully trust me and have faith in our relationship otherwise they would not condone it or be willing to help, me and her mother are close as anything, that and with all her family.
Which have to ask another question...
her co-sponder will be her mother's bf (two of her sisters being from previous relationship) will they have to be added to the overall house hold income rules?
also can you have more than one co-sponsor?
The SR is really a whole differnt subject, but doesnt make sense when you think about the fact that marriage is perfectly legal at 16 and then age of consent laws dont even come into it once married...
but those getting married at around that age would obviously of had a relationship leading up to that, would they then ask question's as to if they had sex because there getting married and then where is the proof?
Her parents fully trust me and have faith in our relationship otherwise they would not condone it or be willing to help, me and her mother are close as anything, that and with all her family.
Which have to ask another question...
her co-sponder will be her mother's bf (two of her sisters being from previous relationship) will they have to be added to the overall house hold income rules?
also can you have more than one co-sponsor?
They don't ask you if you've had sex when you get a marriage license.
As for how many dependants, this sounds a teensy complicated) - how many were on his tax return last year? How many people live with him now that he supports? Are any of these kids over 18 or 21? With some more details, I'm sure a better answer re. the househould size can be given.
I wonder if your g/f and her baby will actually be dependents. If she's not the child of this b/f, and she might get state benefits as a single mother... they might not be. I am not sure, we'll wait for some more comments.
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The SR is really a whole differnt subject, but doesnt make sense when you think about the fact that marriage is perfectly legal at 16 and then age of consent laws dont even come into it once married...
but those getting married at around that age would obviously of had a relationship leading up to that, would they then ask question's as to if they had sex because there getting married and then where is the proof?
Her parents fully trust me and have faith in our relationship otherwise they would not condone it or be willing to help, me and her mother are close as anything, that and with all her family.
but those getting married at around that age would obviously of had a relationship leading up to that, would they then ask question's as to if they had sex because there getting married and then where is the proof?
Her parents fully trust me and have faith in our relationship otherwise they would not condone it or be willing to help, me and her mother are close as anything, that and with all her family.
I highly doubt, anyone at USCIS will be asking questions . . . hmm . . . she's only 16 and they are engaged . . . so they must have slept together. There is no *real* proof and it is largely irrelevant to them. SR only becomes an issue when she or her parents report it.
You can have multiple co-sponsors.
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