Nobby

Has anyone here been called for another (2nd) AOS interview?

We had our first on 4th December 2002, which we went to and were asked for all the normal stuff like W2's, Affidavid of Support etc, and did the fingerprint stuff for the green card.

But now we've been sent another AOS interview letter!

Our initial AOS interview was at the time when INS were'nt issuing I551 in passports.

We went to INS Las Vegas and they told us the reason was that the original fingerprints were out of date!!

Since when have peoples fingerprints changed?

This is getting beyond a joke.

Thanks.
Nigel and Mary.

ScarlettHill

Sounds completely cazy - I'm so sorry you have to go through this. There doesn't seem any rhyme or reason to this process sometimes....

Keep ploughing on - you have to get out of the BCIS bog sometime...

Regards
-=-
Scarlett

Caro

Too bad your interview is not is SF, I'd take it

When did you get fingerprinted? Fingerprints (actually background checks is what they really mean by "fingerprints") expire after 15 months. So, if your fingerprints were taken over 15 months ago, there is a problem there. However, that would not require a 2nd AOS interview. So, not sure what you got a letter for a 2nd AOS interview...

Caroline

kjdrga

I hope we don't get called back, all we got after our interview in Arlingon was that a decision would be mailed within 3 months.

Good luck

Nobby

When we go back thats it! I'm going to lay it on the line to BCIS that we have been through all their crap ONCE and we WILL not tolerate their crap anymore. The BCIS is exactly what it is suppossed to be.. a SERVICE.

I'm a US citizen who is NOT prepared to put up with this crap anymore. My hubby is from England and we've been married for more than two years, and before that we lived together.

Enough is enough as far as I'm concerned.

Mary.

Matthew Udall

Hi Mary,
One of the other posters correctly pointed out that fingerprint clearances can and do expire. I'm sure they will let you know what it is they want when you go back in.

You might want to consider "how" you approach them with your displeasure. It's OK to let them know your thoughts, however the last time I heard someone "erupt" in the San Francisco BCIS office (they were upset about something) a couple of armed uniformed guards came and escorted her from the main room. Not sure where they took her, but I did not see her again while I was taking care of business at the BCIS office that day.

You may be entitled to service (which they are providing to you even though it might not be exactly as you want it to be) however you are not entitled to do absolutely everything you might want to do while in the Federal Building.

Besides, you catch more flies with honey instead of vinegar and the BCIS officer you deal with is likely to mirror your attitude right back at you.

Good luck.

M.U.

Nobby

Mr. Udall ??
Have you EVER known anyone who has had to undergo TWO AOS interviews?

Matthew Udall

Sure. While it has not happened to any of my clients, it happens all the time. But didn't you say that instead of an "interview" the Las Vegas office said something about getting new fingerprints taken? Perhaps we are seeing a rater loose use of the word "interview" (when they really mean something else).

But yes, they can ask a couple to come in for a second "interview". This is usually a "Stokes" interview where they ask more detailed questions (often with the couple separated) because they have some question as to whether or not this is a legitimate marriage/couple (vs. one friend who married the other friend just to help that other friend get a greencard).

You and your spouse are asking the government to grant a "benefit" to the international spouse. Bestowing permanent resident status upon someone is the second greatest gift that can be bestowed by the U.S. government (second only to U.S. Citizenship). In granting that benefit, BCIS "officers" charged with carrying out (applying) U.S. immigration law (that Congress decided to enact) must examine your facts/situation/case and make a subjective judgment call as to whether or not you both meet the requirements to be granted the benefit you have asked for.

This is not like ordering a hamburger at McDonalds. If they want to look at your case a little more, than that is their job, duty and responsibility to do so.

Odds are you will be just fine.

M.U.

Nobby

Mr. Udall ??
Have you EVER known anyone who has had to undergo TWO AOS interviews?

Matthew Udall

Now that I've thought about it some more, I do believe one of my early AOS cases had 2 AOS interviews (or was it 3). That case had a few red flag issues, and I seem to recall that we were called in for a second interview (but the couple were kept together as the officer did not have a concern that they were in a bona fide marriage). I filed their AOS cases when I was still living in San Francisco, but I had to drive or fly back up to S.F. for a subsequent interview at a time when my wife and I had moved down here to Southern California.

We also were asked to dig up and mail to the officer additional evidence at least once, and maybe twice. I started that case in I believe 1997, and if memory serves me correctly, the officer at the San Francisco BCIS office finally approved the LPR status for the husband and his two daughters (they were from the Philippines) around a year ago.

Some cases simply have fact patterns that cause the officers to take more time or want more information.

M.U.

Nobby

This doesn't even come close to this case.

Don't give us all that s**t Mr. Udal that the goverment is doing its best.

The goverment isn't doing its best to do anything.

The Goverment is happy to let in 55,000 from whereever under the lottery, but twiddles its thumbs on family visas.

Can you explain that?

Why after two years do I have to worry about my hubby?

Matthew Udall

Please be nice. I've not said that the BCIS never makes a mistake. You might have the impression that the government is twiddling its thumbs on your case, however you don't really know for sure yet (nor do I) what it is they want to talk to you about or have you provide. Perhaps they want you and your husband to come in to put a stamp in the passport (again, I wouldn't know).

I don't need to explain to you why Congress decided to create the diversity visa lottery any more than I need to explain the difference between apples and oranges.

And if I were in your shoes, I would wait to see if I had anything to actually worry about before starting to worry. You will find out what they want when you go to see them next, right?

Good luck.

M.U.

Folinskyinla

Hi Matt:

You remind me of back in the early 80's when AOS's in LOS were in 8024 and N-400's were in 8010 with INS offices in between -- the check in window [like those in Dr.'s offices] had a sign "This is NOT burger king, you canNOT have it your way."

I kind of liked that sign -- it was much more honest than the "vision statements" with one unreadable run-on sentence that they later posted when there were on the TQM kick.

Folinskyinla

Hi:

It rare in Los Angeles to have two interviews on the actual adjustment application.

However, if the DAO on the initial interview on a combined I-130/485 is not satisfied about the "bona fides" of the marriage, it will be referred to the separate "I-130/751 marriage unit" here in Los Angeles -- and there will be a full blown marriage fraud interview sometimes called a "Stokes" interview.

As to fingerprints, that is NOT an "interview" per se -- it is a "ministerial act".

On occasion, if the case is quite old and has been pending for some years, the parties will be called in for a second interview. My understanding is that this is done for the sake of efficiency because some problems can be resolved easily in an interview context.

You are right that fingerprints don't change, but fingerprint reports do -- bar members have been asking why the hell we need to do a new set and former INS people always said that FBI insists.

Don't fight City Hall on new finger prints -- don't get mad, get a green card. It feels a lot better. Also, please note that although BCIS only charges you ONCE for those FP's [that $50.00] no matter how many times they have to print you, THEY have to pay the FBI each and every time. So the 15 month FP window kind of gives them a financial incentive to close the case when the bean counters start jumping on them.

sanach25

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nobby
Has anyone here been called for another (2nd) AOS interview?

We had our first on 4th December 2002, which we went to and were asked for all the normal stuff like W2's, Affidavid of Support etc, and did the fingerprint stuff for the green card.

But now we've been sent another AOS interview letter!

Our initial AOS interview was at the time when INS were'nt issuing I551 in passports.

We went to INS Las Vegas and they told us the reason was that the original fingerprints were out of date!!

Since when have peoples fingerprints changed?

This is getting beyond a joke.

Thanks.


I do have hda a case like that. I was F1 student married with USC and we married jan 8 2000 and I 130 !485 was filed. I was given finger print in june of 2001 and AOS in july 18. he intrevied us and some thing were missing so he told us to mail it within 90 days then he sent us letter saying that second Intreview will be scheduled. I have my EAD and all since i was going to school I did not care that much. I got second intreview on April of this year and it was very long and they seperated us and all but intreview went well. he told us to mail two sworn letters from friends that we were married and all. we did all that. now at july 02 my wife pettioniser recieved that her I 130 has been approved and benificary will be informed of the decession made on pending application to become LPR...
My question is what next???
some word of wisdom is appriciated
thank you