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Old Nov 7th 2002, 2:55 pm
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Hi

Me & my man from the US will soon be starting the ball rolling for the K1/K2 visa process. I have only just started yesterday started looking round the net for tips & help. A couple of questions have cropped up for me.

1) Under the health check thing you have the day you have your interview (sorry not up with the names of these things yet!) I see one of the questions is about Diabetes. I am an Insulin dependant diabetic. Will this hinder my cause at all?

2) Back in 1987 I was stupid enough to marry an Irainian. OK I am sure they are not all bad! Just I had a bad experience. The marrige lasted a little over a year before I left him. Will the fact that I was married to someone from Iran cause problems? I know that last questions sounds daft, but after 9/11 I have to ask. It soon became apparent to me after the marriage he olny wanted me for a visa to stay in the UK. I was a guilable teenager.

And help is appreciated. You have a real good comunity here. I am glad I found you!! It all seems so complicated, I am glad I have somewhere to turn.

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Old Nov 7th 2002, 4:13 pm
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The answer to both your questions is NO. Be sure to have your full divorce papers and marriage certificate from the first marriage. Yes they want to see the marriage certificate as well. Include all the pages of your divorce agreement not just one or two.

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[QUOTE][SIZE=1]Originally posted by Rete
Originally posted by HelenWebber
Hi

Me & my man from the US will soon be starting the ball rolling for the K1/K2 visa process. I have only just started yesterday started looking round the net for tips & help. A couple of questions have cropped up for me.

1) Under the health check thing you have the day you have your interview (sorry not up with the names of these things yet!) I see one of the questions is about Diabetes. I am an Insulin dependant diabetic. Will this hinder my cause at all?

2) Back in 1987 I was stupid enough to marry an Irainian. OK I am sure they are not all bad! Just I had a bad experience. The marrige lasted a little over a year before I left him. Will the fact that I was married to someone from Iran cause problems? I know that last questions sounds daft, but after 9/11 I have to ask. I
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Old Nov 7th 2002, 7:19 pm
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Thanks Rete!!! I appreciate that



Originally posted by Rete
The answer to both your questions is NO. Be sure to have your full divorce papers and marriage certificate from the first marriage. Yes they want to see the marriage certificate as well. Include all the pages of your divorce agreement not just one or two.

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Originally posted by HelenWebber


2) Back in 1987 I was stupid enough to marry an Irainian. OK I am sure they are not all bad! Just I had a bad experience. The marrige lasted a little over a year before I left him. Will the fact that I was married to someone from Iran cause problems? I know that last questions sounds daft, but after 9/11 I have to ask. It soon became apparent to me after the marriage he olny wanted me for a visa to stay in the UK. I was a guilable teenager.

And help is appreciated. You have a real good comunity here. I am glad I found you!! It all seems so complicated, I am glad I have somewhere to turn.

Helen
doesn't sound daft to me at all. after 9/11, everything changed, it seems. I have the same sort of anxiety, as my fiance is muslim and even though he is thoroughly british, i have alot of concerns. my first is that he has been known by three different names. His name on his passport is the name on his birth certificate, as his parents became muslim after he was born. they then changed his name (without deed poll). parents then divorced, mother changed his name again (with deed poll) to reflect her maiden name (a muslim name too). He then changed his name when he was in high school (with deed poll) and began using his fathers surname again (not a muslim name and the name that is on his birth certificate and passport). So his surname i see no problem with, its his first name that concerns me. He has been known by the muslim name given to him as a child, which is not the same name on his birth certificate. We applied for k1 using the name on his passport, because as i've learned, your 'birth name' is always your legal name, you can always revert back to it or something like that. I am just concerned that he doesn't have much to back up the use of his birth name, as he never got around to changing things like bank accounts and National Identification number. Ordinarily this would not be a big deal, because in UK you don't need to go through any legal process to change your name. But as we know, this is not an ordinary situation. Again, the situation of 9/11 adds to the stress. He has no sort of criminal record or anything like that, no names used for 'untoward' purposes etc. Essentially it was the whim of his parents.
Could they deny him on the basis of this? or will it just be more questions for him to have to answer (he's not real good at that either, gets real nervous about these things).
thanks for any help or advice
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Old Nov 7th 2002, 10:31 pm
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    >he
    >never got around to changing things like bank accounts and National
    >Identification number. Ordinarily this would not be a big deal, because
    >in UK you don't need to go through any legal process to change your
    >name.

actually that's not strictly correct - you don't have to do deed poll but for
your name use to be legal you have to inform all relevant authorities of the
change - for eg when i changed my surname i did it by informing schools, local
council, passport authority, banks, doctors etc. of the change.

it's true that you can legally change your name to anything you like without
deed pol. but for the change to be within the law you have to inform everyone -
because you're only supposed to be known by one name at any one time legally.
having said that, i know lots of people who sometimes go by their first and
sometimes their middle name without problems. the biggy is the surname.

however, the embassy had no real problem with me having changed my surname
without deed poll. i did have to provide evidence though. i showed a letter
from my solicitor relating to my divorce which referred to me as "x, formerly
y", two letters from a housing association, dated a month apart, sent to the
same address and showing my same first name (which luckily for me is quite
unusual) and showing surname in the first as x and the second as y, and two
letters from the department of social security, both quoting my national
insurance number and first name but showing two different surnames - these
letters were also the same two months apart. none of these letters referred
directly to the name change (at the time i didn't know i would ever have to
prove anything about it so i didn't save anything relating to the issue) but
they all demonstrated official acceptance of the change.

i also included a letter, written by myself, explaining the law relating to
name change in the uk very simply and pointing out even the passport authority
had accepted my name change because my passport was in my changed name.

the consular officer looked at the evidence and asked me why i didn't use deed
poll. i went blank and said something like 'because i didn't have to' - it was
all i could think of but it was also the truth. he accepted it and moved on to
his next question. i really don't think they're trying to trap anyone -
certainly in london - they just want to check out everything's genuine.

if you can show some kind of reasonable proof of the name change (a requirement
on the iv checklist) i don't think there's too much to worry about. i realise
your situation is a little different to mine but i'm sure the consulate must be
familiar by now with religious name changes - they see a lot of people and must
have come across this one before. my suggestion is to find all the proof you
possibly can and write a clear letter explaining it. the letter is not a
requirement but i thought it would be helpful in case i forgot something or
came over blank when questioned about it (i did!).

hope the above helps a little.

best of luck with your application.

regards
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Old Nov 8th 2002, 1:40 am
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You should have no problems with the diabetes. But it would be helpful to
have a doctor's letter stating you are managing the condition and taking
insulin.

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    > >he
    > >never got around to changing things like bank accounts and National
    > >Identification number. Ordinarily this would not be a big deal, because
    > >in UK you don't need to go through any legal process to change your
    > >name.
    > actually that's not strictly correct - you don't have to do deed poll but
for
    > your name use to be legal you have to inform all relevant authorities of
the
    > change - for eg when i changed my surname i did it by informing schools,
local
    > council, passport authority, banks, doctors etc. of the change.
    > it's true that you can legally change your name to anything you like
without
    > deed pol. but for the change to be within the law you have to inform
everyone -
    > because you're only supposed to be known by one name at any one time
legally.
    > having said that, i know lots of people who sometimes go by their first
and
    > sometimes their middle name without problems. the biggy is the surname.
    > however, the embassy had no real problem with me having changed my surname
    > without deed poll. i did have to provide evidence though. i showed a
letter
    > from my solicitor relating to my divorce which referred to me as "x,
formerly
    > y", two letters from a housing association, dated a month apart, sent to
the
    > same address and showing my same first name (which luckily for me is quite
    > unusual) and showing surname in the first as x and the second as y, and
two
    > letters from the department of social security, both quoting my national
    > insurance number and first name but showing two different surnames - these
    > letters were also the same two months apart. none of these letters
referred
    > directly to the name change (at the time i didn't know i would ever have
to
    > prove anything about it so i didn't save anything relating to the issue)
but
    > they all demonstrated official acceptance of the change.
    > i also included a letter, written by myself, explaining the law relating
to
    > name change in the uk very simply and pointing out even the passport
authority
    > had accepted my name change because my passport was in my changed name.
    > the consular officer looked at the evidence and asked me why i didn't use
deed
    > poll. i went blank and said something like 'because i didn't have to' - it
was
    > all i could think of but it was also the truth. he accepted it and moved
on to
    > his next question. i really don't think they're trying to trap anyone -
    > certainly in london - they just want to check out everything's genuine.
    > if you can show some kind of reasonable proof of the name change (a
requirement
    > on the iv checklist) i don't think there's too much to worry about. i
realise
    > your situation is a little different to mine but i'm sure the consulate
must be
    > familiar by now with religious name changes - they see a lot of people and
must
    > have come across this one before. my suggestion is to find all the proof
you
    > possibly can and write a clear letter explaining it. the letter is not a
    > requirement but i thought it would be helpful in case i forgot something
or
    > came over blank when questioned about it (i did!).
    > hope the above helps a little.
    > best of luck with your application.
    > regards
    > -=-
    > scarlett
 
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Originally posted by Scarlett
[. my suggestion is to find all the proof you
possibly can and write a clear letter explaining it. the letter is not a
requirement but i thought it would be helpful in case i forgot something or
came over blank when questioned about it (i did!).

hope the above helps a little.

best of luck with your application.

regards
-=-
scarlett
thanks for your help.. i did send a letter to with the 1-129F explaining his name changes.. it is not so much the surname that worries me, as he has a deed poll for that. but that deed poll shows a different first name than the birth certificate and passport . he's 'john' on the passport, for instance, and 'hassan' on the deed poll. he did the 1-129f in his passport name, after much thought on the matter. i told him i think its best for him to avoid any potential hassle to change his bank accounts, perhaps, to his passport name. I don't know, its all rather frustrating as the name changes weren't his idea in the first place! i'm hoping the fact that they all occurred when he was a youngster will pull some weight.

congratulations again and have a great trip over!!
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