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Old Jun 6th 2007 | 12:10 am
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Originally Posted by gryphea
I agree totally. I happen to like the UK, will miss it and actally plan to come back- of course it has some problems - but where doesn't?
I'm with this too.

If there was a perfect place we'd either all be there, or we'd have screwed it up because we're all there.

I didn't apply to emigrate for negative reasons (and I'm not saying that posters are either), rather I choose to try to see the positives and remember the good things that my country of origin has to offer.

If my application is successful, Canada represents new opportunities for me and grass that is not necessarily greener but different.

I also remember that, by virtue of my education, opportunities, life experience, etc I have the chance to take this step - not everyone does.
 
Old Jun 6th 2007 | 2:10 am
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Originally Posted by dbd33
Here. No obesity on this corner in Toronto. The ugly tranny weighs about eight stone, despite being six feet tall (6' 6" in heels). The beggars working the cars at the traffic lights are mostly on meth, they don't eat because they have no teeth, and that keeps them looking trim.
slender trannies and toothless bums.....sound like a postcard image
 
Old Jun 6th 2007 | 2:14 am
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Originally Posted by scottandsara
slender trannies and toothless bums.....sound like a postcard image
Makes Brits feel right at home.


If they previously lived in King's Cross.
 
Old Jun 6th 2007 | 2:48 am
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Originally Posted by toaster
England leads Europe in illiteracy, obesity, divorce, drug use, crime and STDs. Bloody hell...

Article from Macleans Magazine:

http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?c..._106150_106150


Not lived in the UK for years - can't be as bad as all this ?
FFS... not this bloody article again..... LOL
Let the people believe what they want.

(If everyone leaves the 'rotting' UK perhaps i'll be able to afford a house there one day... what am i saying... ahhhh... NOW i see the plan....)
 
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the problem is england is too soft!, look how hard we are all working to go to Canada, meanwhile, there are 5 somarlians on my husbands ward, all HIV, 4 are illegal and 1 working as prostitute in a nice town nearby, all riddled with TB and their drugs alone are £750 a day! each!, do you think they would get treatment like that from anywhere else? no wonder the NHS is crippled, to them this country is Eutopia
 
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Originally Posted by walkerv05
the problem is england is too soft!, look how hard we are all working to go to Canada, meanwhile, there are 5 somarlians on my husbands ward, all HIV, 4 are illegal and 1 working as prostitute in a nice town nearby, all riddled with TB and their drugs alone are £750 a day! each!, do you think they would get treatment like that from anywhere else? no wonder the NHS is crippled, to them this country is Eutopia
They would, and people in a similar situation do, get the same treatment at St. Mike's hospital in Toronto.
 
Old Jun 6th 2007 | 5:14 am
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and would they get billed??
or shipped out after?
 
Old Jun 6th 2007 | 5:18 am
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Originally Posted by walkerv05
and would they get billed??
or shipped out after?
They wouldn't be billed, no, that's the point of a taxpayer funded healthcare system.

Somalis here are typically refugees so they wouldn't be shipped anywhere either though that depends somewhat on their status and the willingness of the authorities to act. Changes are that, unless they were wanted in a third country, they'd be ignored even if obviously illegal.
 
Old Jun 6th 2007 | 8:09 am
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Originally Posted by walkerv05
the problem is england is too soft!, look how hard we are all working to go to Canada, meanwhile, there are 5 somarlians on my husbands ward, all HIV, 4 are illegal and 1 working as prostitute in a nice town nearby, all riddled with TB and their drugs alone are £750 a day! each!, do you think they would get treatment like that from anywhere else? no wonder the NHS is crippled, to them this country is Eutopia
The only difference here is the Canadian press don't make it a national headline. Britain has become a nation hooked on unimportant trivia masquerading as important news.

In the states, yes, they would be billed, shipped or ignored. Then look at all the humanitarianists whine about the way the USA deals with it... of course.
 
Old Jun 6th 2007 | 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by walkerv05
1 working as prostitute in a nice town nearby, all riddled with TB and their drugs alone are £750 a day! each!,
She not about 6.6 in high heels and weighs about 8 stone...


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Old Jun 6th 2007 | 10:02 am
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Originally Posted by cov-canuck
It really is that bad now, certainly in a lot of areas (I won't say everywhere, I know some people lived in areas that were much nicer). That's why we left last year, we couldn't stand the idea of raising children there.
I think it is generally on the increase everywhere, you know its bad when they start showing reality tv shows on booze britain, car rage is another show...sad but true.


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Originally Posted by dozy_muppet03
I think it is generally on the increase everywhere, you know its bad when they start showing reality tv shows on booze britain, car rage is another show...sad but true.


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Old Jun 8th 2007 | 10:06 am
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There is definitely a palpable feeling that something in the air is changing.
I lived in a rural area in the west country, close to Charlie and Camilla. What one would call a nice area, I guess. Overnight nearly all the bus drivers in the area were Polish, that in itself is not an issue, but the influx IS massive. Honda apparently send recruiters out to eastern bloc countries for two reasons, the UK youngsters they get on the production line either can't handle the work or think it's beneath them or both. And Eastern Europeans are cheap labour. Again not an issue, they're filling a role that we are not.

In Reading, my father in law, whose lived there since a young boy and is a pretty tough cookie (he had bright red curly hair!) recently got beaten up and had his nose broken for absolutely no reason by a large group of older British teenagers - although he is a martial arts expert and fought back! But the kids didn't care if he lived or died. He has had two attempted break-ins in 6 months and has also been scammed by Romanians outside a building society, losing several hundred pounds - if someone squirts ketchup on you and someone else offers to help you clean it off, just walk away!

The policeman, he spoke to said that the Polish "mafia" had moved into Oxford St (never the best place in Reading) and were stirring up a lot of problems as they are often, shall we say, less racially tolerant and Oxford street has a very high proportion of coloured people. On top of this, they are really there to exploit their compatriots and then move on to try and screw the rest of us.

Obviously I have no beef with immigration!! But it does need to be sensibly managed, but we are bound by the EU rules so we can't really. The UK infra-structures, or any other country come to that, can't cope with massive migrations. On top of that you have a generation of youths that really don't give a toss about anything and know they can't be touched - obviously not all kids, but enough for it to be felt.

Together these things are making life in Britain feel more difficult. I have no idea what the solution is, because I believe the freedom of movement is a good thing ultimately.

One interesting statistic that I saw somewhere was that number of roles filled by migrant workers was quite close to the number of unemployed claiming benefits! If it's true, does anyone see a solution here?

Just to be clear I'm not racist or a Daily Mail reader, this is just what I've seen or heard about.
 
Old Jun 8th 2007 | 8:34 pm
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Originally Posted by mrmcgoo
There is definitely a palpable feeling that something in the air is changing.
I lived in a rural area in the west country, close to Charlie and Camilla. What one would call a nice area, I guess. Overnight nearly all the bus drivers in the area were Polish, that in itself is not an issue, but the influx IS massive. Honda apparently send recruiters out to eastern bloc countries for two reasons, the UK youngsters they get on the production line either can't handle the work or think it's beneath them or both. And Eastern Europeans are cheap labour. Again not an issue, they're filling a role that we are not.

In Reading, my father in law, whose lived there since a young boy and is a pretty tough cookie (he had bright red curly hair!) recently got beaten up and had his nose broken for absolutely no reason by a large group of older British teenagers - although he is a martial arts expert and fought back! But the kids didn't care if he lived or died. He has had two attempted break-ins in 6 months and has also been scammed by Romanians outside a building society, losing several hundred pounds - if someone squirts ketchup on you and someone else offers to help you clean it off, just walk away!

The policeman, he spoke to said that the Polish "mafia" had moved into Oxford St (never the best place in Reading) and were stirring up a lot of problems as they are often, shall we say, less racially tolerant and Oxford street has a very high proportion of coloured people. On top of this, they are really there to exploit their compatriots and then move on to try and screw the rest of us.

Obviously I have no beef with immigration!! But it does need to be sensibly managed, but we are bound by the EU rules so we can't really. The UK infra-structures, or any other country come to that, can't cope with massive migrations. On top of that you have a generation of youths that really don't give a toss about anything and know they can't be touched - obviously not all kids, but enough for it to be felt.

Together these things are making life in Britain feel more difficult. I have no idea what the solution is, because I believe the freedom of movement is a good thing ultimately.

One interesting statistic that I saw somewhere was that number of roles filled by migrant workers was quite close to the number of unemployed claiming benefits! If it's true, does anyone see a solution here?

Just to be clear I'm not racist or a Daily Mail reader, this is just what I've seen or heard about.
I thought your post was well put together, there is something in the air for sure, just look at the local newspapers of any city outside of london and people will get a clearer understanding.

I have even noticed that sky website has a crime section now, which is new.


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Old Jun 8th 2007 | 8:54 pm
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Thanks John,
I did choose my words carefully because on subjects of race and nationality many people will jump down your throat very quickly with accusations of racism ... or Daily Mail readership

But the thing that appeals to me about Canada is that the majority are in effect foreigners so they all just have to get along.

I took a 3 month contract in Switzerland and they have recently relaxed their border controls under EU pressure. They are experiencing something similar - we had a bag stolen on the train as we got here - unheard of a few years OK but apparently very common on the trains now. And crime is on the rise here in general and it's nearly always attributed to foreigners.

Unfortunately we have to go back to Reading , to stay with my father in law while we wait for the last stages of our Canadian application to take it's course
 


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