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Old Dec 8th 2012 | 6:33 pm
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I see now that Scotland Yard detectives now want to speak to the two DJs.
 
Old Dec 9th 2012 | 12:46 am
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She did not breach any confidentiality though. The NMC Nursing and Midwifery Council is the regulatory body. Who are the NCC?

As I said before the nurse who did give out information thought she was talking to a family member and if prior consent has been given by the patient then there is no breach. Some hospitals do not allow any information to be given by phone except in exceptional circumstances.

The concerns for disciplinary action would be whether or not hospital procedures and professional guidelines were followed.

NCC = iPad typo.

My daughter in the uk has been a nurse for 16 years, she tells stories of nurses who have had their registration revoked for less.
 
Old Dec 9th 2012 | 3:14 am
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http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/d...djs-prank-call

These two are an absolute disgrace. This isn't just about this prank call but other incidents besides (see link). "Saddened"? What about a compete apology and resignation? Their careers are finished anyway I guess.

The radio station itself should be investigated for allowing a pre-recorded prank call like that to go out; it's not just these two that are to blame.
 
Old Dec 9th 2012 | 3:47 am
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Originally Posted by London Mike
http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/d...djs-prank-call

These two are an absolute disgrace. This isn't just about this prank call but other incidents besides (see link). "Saddened"? What about a compete apology and resignation? Their careers are finished anyway I guess.

The radio station itself should be investigated for allowing a pre-recorded prank call like that to go out; it's not just these two that are to blame.
The thing is though no one could have seen the repercussions would go so far.

IF the nurse hadn't died, it would have been an expose into how could a silly call have gotten out through and the two dj's would likely have been seen as doing the nation a favour (not quite but you know what I mean) on hilighting how easy it is get through to a royal ward.

As it stands now, one woman is dead, 2 dj's careers will be finished, the radio station tarnished and probably a whole host of other things we don't know about.

And yes the press take blame, but seriously, this was always going to be news.

What about when that guy broke into Buckingham palace??? (OK yes more severe I get that)???? That was news, did any of the royal staff die / top themselves because they allowed him to get in there ??? No idea but you can bet they got more of a roasting than that nurse did.

You can't expect to understand how someone will react when on the recieving end of what she probably presumed would have been a career ending mistake, but can you really go around calling for things to be banned for fear of the butterfly effect????
 
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Nobody should do anything just in case it turns out unexpectedly.
 
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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
Nobody should do anything just in case it turns out unexpectedly.
But the public outrage!!! Something must be done and and a sacrifice is the only thing that will do.
 
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Originally Posted by Miss Clinique
NCC = iPad typo.

My daughter in the uk has been a nurse for 16 years, she tells stories of nurses who have had their registration revoked for less.
She has some unfortunate contacts then. What can be less than doing nothing wrong?

These are the main reasons that a nurse can have impaired fitness to practice. From the NMC website.

  • misconduct,
  • lack of competence,
  • a conviction or caution (including a finding of guilt by a court martial),
  • physical or mental ill health,
  • a finding by any other health or social care regulator or licensing body that a nurse or midwife’s fitness to practise is impaired, or
  • a barring under the arrangements provided by the Safeguarding Vulnerable Groups Act 2006, the Safeuarding Vulnerable Groups (Northern Ireland) order 2007 or the Protection of Vulnerable Groups (Scotland) Act 2007.
    Fewer than 2900 of nurses and midwives out of 665,000 on the register were referred to the NMC in 2009-2010
So lack of competence or misconduct would have to be proven. This is usually more than one incident unless serious, such as endangering life or limb

It's interesting looking through them, none of them are for trivial matters and most are for a series of events.

I can see why the woman was worried out of her mind. I know that when something goes wrong the thought that a complaint might lead to being struck off is always there and misinformation about what kind of act would result in this only compounds it.

In 40 years I have only come across one colleague who was referred and she was drunk at work.
 
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Originally Posted by bats
She has some unfortunate contacts then. What can be less than doing nothing wrong?

These are the main reasons that a nurse can have impaired fitness to practice. From the NMC website.



So lack of competence or misconduct would have to be proven. This is usually more than one incident unless serious, such as endangering life or limb

It's interesting looking through them, none of them are for trivial matters and most are for a series of events.

I can see why the woman was worried out of her mind. I know that when something goes wrong the thought that a complaint might lead to being struck off is always there and misinformation about what kind of act would result in this only compounds it.

In 40 years I have only come across one colleague who was referred and she was drunk at work.
I reckon thats what it was, and with social media spreading it like wildfire she probably blamed herself way more than others would have.
 
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Originally Posted by mandymoochops
I reckon thats what it was, and with social media spreading it like wildfire she probably blamed herself way more than others would have.
oh yes for sure, and living in staff accommodation wouldn't help, both from the POW of being isolated from family and being wound up by supposition and conjecture.

I see the Mail is being hypocritical as usual. Indignant over the issue and yet publishing photos and names of the family.
 
Old Dec 10th 2012 | 3:05 pm
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Originally Posted by mandymoochops
The thing is though no one could have seen the repercussions would go so far.

IF the nurse hadn't died, it would have been an expose into how could a silly call have gotten out through and the two dj's would likely have been seen as doing the nation a favour (not quite but you know what I mean) on hilighting how easy it is get through to a royal ward.

As it stands now, one woman is dead, 2 dj's careers will be finished, the radio station tarnished and probably a whole host of other things we don't know about.

And yes the press take blame, but seriously, this was always going to be news.

What about when that guy broke into Buckingham palace??? (OK yes more severe I get that)???? That was news, did any of the royal staff die / top themselves because they allowed him to get in there ??? No idea but you can bet they got more of a roasting than that nurse did.

You can't expect to understand how someone will react when on the recieving end of what she probably presumed would have been a career ending mistake, but can you really go around calling for things to be banned for fear of the butterfly effect????
I get that it was a prank that went horribly wrong, but I was more calling them a disgrace for comments like this:

"Some fat slag on news.com.au has already branded it a disaster," he said. "You can tell by reading the article that she just hates us and has always hated us. What a fat, bitter thing you are. You're deputy editor of an online thing. You've got a nothing job anyway. You're a piece of shit. This low thing, Alison Stephenson, deputy editor of news.com.au online. You're supposed to be impartial, you little troll."
 
Old Dec 10th 2012 | 11:06 pm
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If there is blame to be laid anywhere, it should be at the Palace and security advisors. Yes, the nurse screwed up, but having the pressure of the mother with the sprog of the future king in your hospital, would doubtless make us all a little tense. The Palace security must deal with this rubbish on a daily basis, why oh why had they not thought of this. During a period when it would appear that anyone with a faint glimmer of 'celebrity' can be hacked, surely a screening process could have been instigated for a wing of a hospital. I have screwed up big time a couple of times in life, stupid things, but they still bother me if in a glum mood... the life of this young woman would have been dreadful after this shabby affair.
 
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The daft part of all of this is everybody is looking for somebody to blame....

For what !!!!!

A sequence of events that nobody could have predicted ?

In your wildest dreams you couldn't map this risk out before hand...


No blame... no issue....
 
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Originally Posted by MikeUK
The daft part of all of this is everybody is looking for somebody to blame....

For what !!!!!

A sequence of events that nobody could have predicted ?

In your wildest dreams you couldn't map this risk out before hand...


No blame... no issue....
Is this the end of comedy as we know it. Every one who is a target at Yuk Yuks or on the Standup show could, in theory, go off and kill themselves.
 
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If there is blame to be laid anywhere, it should be at the Palace and security advisors. Yes, the nurse screwed up, but having the pressure of the mother with the sprog of the future king in your hospital, would doubtless make us all a little tense. The Palace security must deal with this rubbish on a daily basis, why oh why had they not thought of this. During a period when it would appear that anyone with a faint glimmer of 'celebrity' can be hacked, surely a screening process could have been instigated for a wing of a hospital. I have screwed up big time a couple of times in life, stupid things, but they still bother me if in a glum mood... the life of this young woman would have been dreadful after this shabby affair.
How about the hospital telling staff that Royalty do not use landlines.
 
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Is this the end of comedy as we know it. Every one who is a target at Yuk Yuks or on the Standup show could, in theory, go off and kill themselves.
This is true, which is why practical jokes and mocking people for a laugh are not humour, they are bullying.
 


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