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What's wrong with Britain...
Stuff like this: 400 acid attacks in 6 months. Ok, not everywhere, but something is obviously rotten in the state of London.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...n-acid-attacks Completely agree with Amber Rudd, although I would give perpetrators the option of an acid shower in return for a slightly reduced sentence. |
Re: What's wrong with Britain...
Could be wrong but odds are pretty good the perpetrators are minorities and offsprings of recent immigrants.
If true, there you have it. Regardless of who it is, a disproportionate percentage of the high profile incidents in the UK in recent years have been caused by you know whats. And now that I have made my observation I will withdraw from this thread. |
Re: What's wrong with Britain...
When the UK suffered mass shooting attacks (Dunblane, Hungerford) the response was to remove weapons from general circulation. We didn't demonise mentally ill middle aged white men.
The sensible solution to these attacks is to enforce strict control on the supply of dangerous substances, not to demonise brown teenagers. |
Re: What's wrong with Britain...
I worry that previously ignorant teenagers, who didn't know how to cause such havoc are now being shown a pretty good idea and might start trying it for themselves, at school and in the wider community.
You can't buy knife without proof of age, the same should be so for corrosive products. |
Re: What's wrong with Britain...
Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH
(Post 12296058)
Could be wrong but odds are pretty good the perpetrators are minorities and offsprings of recent immigrants.
If true, there you have it. Regardless of who it is, a disproportionate percentage of the high profile incidents in the UK in recent years have been caused by you know whats. And now that I have made my observation I will withdraw from this thread. |
Re: What's wrong with Britain...
Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
(Post 12296084)
When the UK suffered mass shooting attacks (Dunblane, Hungerford) the response was to remove weapons from general circulation. ....
The sensible solution to these attacks is to enforce strict control on the supply of dangerous substances, .....
Originally Posted by MillieF
(Post 12296090)
.... You can't buy knife without proof of age, the same should be so for corrosive products.
The idea that the primary solution to the problem is to "control the supply" or require proof of age is wholly unrealistic, and pretty much unworkable. I think many of the attacks are by men aged 18 or older, so I don't think it would help much anyway. |
Re: What's wrong with Britain...
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12296151)
The "acid problem" is more than three orders of magnitude greater, maybe even four orders - measured in hundreds a year, not less than a handful over several decades.
Perhaps you don't realize that there are over 31 million containers of strong mineral acid in the UK, and evenly distributed across the country such that most homes have an average (mode, not mean) of two. The idea that the primary solution to the problem is to "control the supply" or require proof of age is wholly unrealistic, and pretty much unworkable. I think many of the attacks are by men aged 18 or older, so I don't think it would help much anyway. The incorrect response, however, is what DXBtoDOH did in post 2 - immediately start blaming entire sections of the population, the vast majority of whom are entirely innocent of any wrongdoing whatsoever. |
Re: What's wrong with Britain...
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12296151)
Perhaps you don't realize that there are over 31 million containers of strong mineral acid in the UK, and evenly distributed across the country such that most homes have an average (mode, not mean) of two...
I just googled and see mention of hugely varying strength. The "common" use I easily found was cleaning the inside of boilers, fertiliser and cleaning swimming pools. That doesn't really sound like a common to household thing. Perhaps these 31 million containers are more common to industry, farming or warehouse rather than under the kitchen sink. :unsure: |
Re: What's wrong with Britain...
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 12296188)
Strong? What would they be?
I just googled and see mention of hugely varying strength. The "common" use I easily found was cleaning the inside of boilers, fertiliser and cleaning swimming pools. That doesn't really sound like a common to household thing. Perhaps these 31 million containers are more common to industry, farming or warehouse rather than under the kitchen sink. ..... |
Re: What's wrong with Britain...
DXBtoDOH?
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Re: What's wrong with Britain...
Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
(Post 12296182)
.... The incorrect response, however, is what DXBtoDOH did in post 2 - immediately start blaming entire sections of the population, the vast majority of whom are entirely innocent of any wrongdoing whatsoever.
What certainly does no favours to anyone, and makes a solution harder to find, is to bowdlerize the reports so as to imply that the problem is uniformly distributed across all segments of the British population when it manifestly is not. |
Re: What's wrong with Britain...
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12296195)
See post #7 above. ;)
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Re: What's wrong with Britain...
Originally Posted by JonboyE
(Post 12296267)
DXBtoDOH?
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Re: What's wrong with Britain...
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 12296328)
So what does one do, siphon out the liquid from the car battery or something? Serious question.
Another alternative source of strong mineral acid would be rust remover which contains concentrated phosphoric acid which is nearly as strong as sulphuric acid. |
Re: What's wrong with Britain...
Statement from Wiki entry on the subject-
.According to researchers and activists, countries typically associated with acid assault include Bangladesh, India,[44] Nepal, Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, China, United Kingdom, Kenya, South Africa, Uganda, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Ethiopia. |
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