we moved from a town near Stevenage, to Newfounland, we lived on the border of stevenage, welwyn GC and luton, glad to see the back of the place to be honest.

They are full of chavs, drugs a massive problem, the shopping areas are not nice places either and are usually full of said chavs with nothing better to do that, chavish stuff.

Yes....bring on the abuse, and I am sure my post's not constructive, but I hated the place.

Hitchin. only 5 minutes from stevenage but a million times nicer. lovely lively market town and plenty of trains into London in about 30 mins. Lived there for 5 years.

I agree, Hitchin is 1,000,000 times better than Stevenage. Also lived (and worked) there for 5 years.

I'm not saying Luton doesn't have bad area's - it has, especially around Bury park! LOL< I guess we'll have to disagree there, I lived there 8 months with my brother who still lives there.

Biggleswade is another one to consider, though thats less well connected unless you have a car. Hatfield would also get my no-vote unless you're a student - very expensive imho.

If $$$ is not an issue, the St Albans is 'the' place, similarly, if you have a car and don't mind driving 10/15 minutes to get to the station, there are many little beautiful villages in the Hertfordshire countryside.

Pull up google maps and look at Stevenage and the surrounding areas, that will also give you a good idea of areas.

Could drive from a lovely house in the country in Cambridgshire
I know where there is one for sale they will even give you a years parking permit at the station

10 mins to the station and get the express train to Kingscross

It's got one wonderful owner and lots of bricks left to clean.

Biggleswade has a train station with a direct line into Kings Cross - how much more connected do you need???????? It's also on the A1, Stevenage only a 20-30 min drive in one direction, Bedford the same in another and Cambridge, just a bit longer 30 - 40 mins in another.

Why wouldn't you use a windshield washer when it's below freezing? I find it saves having to scrape the ice.

It's not much fun when your driving a long and squirt your windshield and the wipers sweep a frozen mess across your windshield - difficult to scrape and drive at the same time

Our windscreen washer fluid says it's good to -40C.

Oh sorry I had to laugh at that comment!!!! My parents moved to Stevenage in 2005 from Crawley (or Stevenage South!) Stevenage is SOOOOOOOOOO behind the times it is not even funny! Shopping there (high street wise anyway) is a nightmare! Sunday shopping is basically unheard of (not such a bad thing in some people's view) the town center reminds me of Crawley before it got revamped and my parents basically don't spend any time there. If they go shopping they head out to Hatfield (again slim pickings for high street stores) or out to Bluewater, Lakeside, Cambridge or visit family in Crawley and shop there!!!!!!!!!!
My parents live on a new development and houses are changing hands constantly either being sold, or different rental tennants! Not sure what that says about the area!?!
BTW they moved as my Dad accepted a job in Ware and Stevenage was about the only place they could afford at the time, it wasn't really their "choice" to go there.
My sister was forced to move back to Crawley due to lack of suitable employment, my mum is facing losing her job and had trouble finding it in the first place anyway!!!!!
This is just my opinion of the place and having come from Crawley, which was developed at the same time, I have to say Stevenage is definitely NEGLECTED in comparison.

Have to agree with you there. I lived there for two years while working on one of the industrial estates. On the whole it wasn't a bad place to live but after moving to Canada you really see the difference. I always like Hitchin though, a much nicer small town.

Kriss

So does mine - I think that means it won't freeze in the tank. It was -14 this morning and I tried dbd's idea Hmpfh I now have to refill the washer bottle 'cause I emptied it trying to defrost the screen

You're supposed to clear the windscreen of ice first!