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Old Aug 15th 2010, 5:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
I would like you to explain which jobs don't require accountability. I would think that they all do. Of course, the person performing the work may decide that s/he isn't accountable, but that is a different argument isn't it?
Hiring a gardener? Paying somebody to clear snow off your drive? No need for them to guarantee the work.
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Hiring a gardener? Paying somebody to clear snow off your drive? No need for them to guarantee the work.
I guess you believe that it is OK for such people to not contribute to society through the payment of taxes.
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Almost all the at home childcarers I know do the same thing. Cash only. It sucks from a parent point of view because you can't claim it for taxes, but, childcare shortage being what it is, you have to do what you have to do.

I always figured it evened out because you can't write things off against your business etc.

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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
I guess you believe that it is OK for such people to not contribute to society through the payment of taxes.
Just curious..what about babysitters i.e. 13 year olds looking after the kids for a few hours. Do you think they should declare?
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
I guess you believe that it is OK for such people to not contribute to society through the payment of taxes.
Yep. I have no moral or ethical problem with this kind of small scale tax evasion.
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Just curious..what about babysitters i.e. 13 year olds looking after the kids for a few hours. Do you think they should declare?
Of course they should. It is unlikely that they would owe any tax at the end of each tax year and they would be building RRSP contribution room.

If for whatever reason, they are a rock star babysitter and earn enough to have to pay tax, please explain to me why they shouldn't. If they shouldn't, why should anyone?
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
Of course they should. It is unlikely that they would owe any tax at the end of each tax year and they would be building RRSP contribution room.

If for whatever reason, they are a rock star babysitter and earn enough to have to pay tax, please explain to me why they shouldn't. If they shouldn't, why should anyone?
You are 'the man' and I claim my five pounds (expecting 13y.o. kids to declare a few dollars... really)
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
You are 'the man' and I claim my five pounds (expecting 13y.o. kids to declare a few dollars... really)
I didn't say I expected them to, as it is unlikely they would owe any tax, just that it would pay them to, as it would allow them to build up RRSP contribution room.

I find your attitude to tax evasion surprising.
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Yep. I have no moral or ethical problem with this kind of small scale tax evasion.
So at what point does it become immoral or unethical in your opinion $10,000, $100, 000, $1,000,000? Why the distinction, either it is wrong, or it isn't?
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to clarify, this person moved here with a TWP, left their job, moved Province & has Salary paid into UK bank in order to
a. avoid paying tax
b. avoid getting caught

I haven't done anything about it but after much discussion over a few vinos yesterday, my Canadian friends were appalled & felt very strongly that this person should be 'shopped'

I was just interested to see what other expats thought, particularly when we have jumped through a gazillion hoops to emigrate legally.
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
So at what point does it become immoral or unethical in your opinion $10,000, $100, 000, $1,000,000? Why the distinction, either it is wrong, or it isn't?
I disagree.
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
I suspect they are the type that believe that rich tax evaders should be locked up but that little Jimmy not paying tax on $200 earned is doing nothing wrong. Where does one draw the line - it is either criminal or it isn't, isn't it?
The line is drawn somewhere between minor and major; so Jimmy gets a slap on the wrists while the person guilty of the bigger offence gets a bigger punishment.

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Yep. I have no moral or ethical problem with this kind of small scale tax evasion.
Isn't it an immigration offence as well?
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Originally Posted by louise033
if you discovered someone you knew was working here in Canada illegally?
bribe them or you dob them in!
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Originally Posted by louise033
to clarify, this person moved here with a TWP, left their job, moved Province & has Salary paid into UK bank in order to
a. avoid paying tax
b. avoid getting caught

I haven't done anything about it but after much discussion over a few vinos yesterday, my Canadian friends were appalled & felt very strongly that this person should be 'shopped'

I was just interested to see what other expats thought, particularly when we have jumped through a gazillion hoops to emigrate legally.
Thought that might be the motivation.
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