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Old Oct 20th 2008, 9:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Jules Europe
If it was going to become an EU member then yes there would be complete freedom of movement for all EU and Canadian residents between all the countries, but........ I can`t see this happening, because if it did, it would make all of Canada`s rules and regulations referring to immigration suddenly become redundant and I can`t see this happening in the near future. If on the other hand complete freedom of movement took place, about 75% of all discussions on the Canadian forum would suddenly become redundant as people wouldn`t need to discuss Canadian immigration mmmmmmmmm well.....There is a nice thought
Ahhh, poor forum. Wouldn't be the only thing that's been made redundant lately lol!!

I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens. Do you think they will only offer freedom of movement to skilled workers, key workers and trade workers perhaps?
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Old Oct 20th 2008, 9:11 pm
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Originally Posted by ann m
No, in a word - how can it? There is already the 6 month visitor visa. We are not talking PR here.

It's a closer ECONOMIC partnership that is being discussed. Trade - goods - and services. Nothing to do with people and employment. (And Canada would not give up it's strict immigration rules that easily anyway).

How can Canada become a member of the EU? It's not in Europe - how is this confusing people ?

Sorry - just re-read that and it might sound a bit blunt. Just wondering how the thread got so embroiled in an EU discussion.
Well there are a number of potential new countries that want to become part of the EU, countries that I would hardly refer to as being European with Turkey being one of them. This is a country that borders onto Syria, Iraq and Iran None of this seems very European!!! So I think in Canada`s case nobody is going to bat an eyelid about their distance from Europe.

The reason this became an EU discussion, is because it gives some type of hope for the many people that want to emigrate to Canada, people without a job offer or a desired skill. Anyway, I think this EU scenario is all just a red herring anyway
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What may come about, if anything, is that companies might find it easier to get TWP's issued for people from EU countries
This way Europe could 'trade' skilled labour for cheaper resources…….
This way both parties get what they need, and it can be cancelled as fast as its setup if they don’t like it
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Old Oct 20th 2008, 9:17 pm
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Default Re: what if canada followed the lead of the UK?

Originally Posted by ann m
No, in a word - how can it? There is already the 6 month visitor visa. We are not talking PR here.

It's a closer ECONOMIC partnership that is being discussed. Trade - goods - and services. Nothing to do with people and employment. (And Canada would not give up it's strict immigration rules that easily anyway).

How can Canada become a member of the EU? It's not in Europe - how is this confusing people ?

Sorry - just re-read that and it might sound a bit blunt. Just wondering how the thread got so embroiled in an EU discussion.

Thats good to know!! I guess time will tell to see how it is supposed to benefit the related countries
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Originally Posted by act1980
Ahhh, poor forum. Wouldn't be the only thing that's been made redundant lately lol!!

I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens. Do you think they will only offer freedom of movement to skilled workers, key workers and trade workers perhaps?
Skilled, key and trade workers!!! jajajaja this just about sounds like everybody out there, unfortunately they only want DESIRABLE PEOPLE as this ugly term is so often used to describe by CI the type of people Canada wants on its various websites.
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Originally Posted by Jules Europe
Well there are a number of potential new countries that want to become part of the EU, countries that I would hardly refer to as being European with Turkey being one of them.
Yet Turkey has been recognised as 'being in Europe' for quite some time. Their football teams have been in European competition for many a year.
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Originally Posted by Jules Europe
I think this EU scenario is all just a red herring anyway
I think the EU trading agreement is coming about because everybody wants to get away from having to much trade/investment embedded in the US which is at risk of collapsing as viable paying trading partner
Canada may have to choose between working next door and not getting paid or dealing with far way partners such as the EU, the other major player is China and she doesn’t play well at partnerships
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Yet Turkey has been recognised as 'being in Europe' for quite some time. Their football teams have been in European competition for many a year.
Have you been to asian Turkey which forms the bulk of their country? Their attitude to ethnic minorities, gays etc and human rights is an absolute disgrace I can`t think of a country that borders the EU as being more UN European than Turkey! The only reason they have this small bit of European Turkey, is because of the left over spoils of the Ottoman empire and should rightly be part of Greece or Bulgaria.

As for Turkish teams in European football, well Isreal is classified as European in football terms!!!!!!!! But that is because nobody in the arab world will recognize and play football matches with them. Turkey because of this bit of european territory that they have.
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I think the EU trading agreement is coming about because everybody wants to get away from having to much trade/investment embedded in the US which is at risk of collapsing as viable paying trading partner
Canada may have to choose between working next door and not getting paid or dealing with far way partners such as the EU, the other major player is China and she doesn’t play well at partnerships
I agree that Canada is looking at the EU as its most viable trading partner, given their next door relationship with the USA being far from friendly at times and China not willing to share with anybody. But to be fair, why should China share with anybody as they are doing such a great job on their own anyway.
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Have you been to asian Turkey which forms the bulk of their country? Their attitude to ethnic minorities, gays etc and human rights is an absolute disgrace I can`t think of a country that borders the EU as being more UN European than Turkey! The only reason they have this small bit of European Turkey, is because of the left over spoils of the Ottoman empire and should rightly be part of Greece or Bulgaria.

As for Turkish teams in European football, well Isreal is classified as European in football terms!!!!!!!! But that is because nobody in the arab world will recognize and play football matches with them. Turkey because of this bit of european territory that they have.
Agreed about Turkey, their laws are a long way from matching the Human rights of the EU.
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Yet Turkey has been recognised as 'being in Europe' for quite some time. Their football teams have been in European competition for many a year.
Don't Turkey & Isreal also enter a team into the european song contest?
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Aye, Israel won it a few years back with the big transexual/transvestite didn't they?
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Don't Turkey & Isreal also enter a team into the european song contest?
That`s because they have sexy looking women in these countries........mmmmmmmmm saying that, wasn`t one of these women from Isreal a transexual
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[QUOTE=Jules Europe;6893830]That`s because they have sexy looking women in these countries........mmmmmmmmm saying that, wasn`t one of these women from Isreal a transexual

Dana international that was it (I looked it up honest).
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Originally Posted by mclauchlan35
Agreed about Turkey, their laws are a long way from matching the Human rights of the EU.
There are also a lot of countries in Eastern Europe that shouldn`t have been granted entry for human rights reasons, countries like Romania and Bulgaria whose treatment of ethnic minorities(gypsies) is appalling Kinda strange though given that Romania has Europes largest gypsy population but nobody there will actually own up as being one Next they will be letting Serbia in The mind just boggles given their recent attitudes to ethnic minorities.

So I think looking at all this, Canada would be a most welcome addition
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