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Old Jan 31st 2016, 10:57 am
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It struck me that after the wheels all shower in the morning, the water is reheated during the day at peak rate.

So I was pondering putting a timeswitch in so it doesn't reheat on peak electricity, though these seem to be $50 and up.

Any of you thrifty peeps tried anything like this?
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Originally Posted by Pizzawheel
It struck me that after the wheels all shower in the morning, the water is reheated during the day at peak rate.

So I was pondering putting a timeswitch in so it doesn't reheat on peak electricity, though these seem to be $50 and up.

Any of you thrifty peeps tried anything like this?
Get a gas water heater instead?

If you want to go the electric timer way, this article is quite useful - http://michaelbluejay.com/electricit...atertimer.html - the price seems also to depend on what wattage you need.

Is your tank lagged sufficiently?

https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.r...000415042.html
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Wash in the evening?
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My first choice would be gas, but it's a rental so I doubt if get value there (the replacement would be free but they'd jack the price up). That also means I can't lag it, and it probably doesn't need it anyhow.

It's the horrible two phase 240v, the timer I found on the Ronald website is $90 which isn't going to happen, but with the more obscure items I've found you have to go in person.

I also need to check the Delta on the electricity cost from cheap rate to peak.

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Tell the rental company you want to lag it and put a timer on it. Let them front the cost.

If they don't comply, take it out and buy one for under $1000.
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If they don't comply, take it out and buy one for under $1000.
My water heater adds just over $6 to my monthly bill. $75 a year and have someone else maintain/replace/repair at no additional cost. Buying one doesn't seem that attractive an option.
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My first choice would be gas, but it's a rental so I doubt if get value there (the replacement would be free but they'd jack the price up). That also means I can't lag it, and it probably doesn't need it anyhow.

It's the horrible two phase 240v, the timer I found on the Ronald website is $90 which isn't going to happen, but with the more obscure items I've found you have to go in person.

I also need to check the Delta on the electricity cost from cheap rate to peak.
Before you go to the trouble of buying a timer, it help if you knew what the recovery time is for your heater. It not as if it takes all day to reheat a full tank.
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It takes approx two hours to reheat an average 40 gal water heater.

It it's not heating up fast enough for the family to use it maybe time to upgrade to a 60 or 80 gall tank
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Tell the rental company you want to lag it and put a timer on it. Let them front the cost.

If they don't comply, take it out and buy one for under $1000.
Wouldn't taking it out and replacing it result in eviction? Every lease/tenancy agreement I have had always said no removing of appliances or any permanent fixture.
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Originally Posted by Pizzawheel
My first choice would be gas, but it's a rental so I doubt if get value there (the replacement would be free but they'd jack the price up). That also means I can't lag it, and it probably doesn't need it anyhow.

It's the horrible two phase 240v, the timer I found on the Ronald website is $90 which isn't going to happen, but with the more obscure items I've found you have to go in person.

I also need to check the Delta on the electricity cost from cheap rate to peak.
Why can't you lag a rental? It's only a wrap, not permanent.

If it's a few years old and isn't terribly efficient, I would seriously consider replacing it (I'm presuming that you own the property, not renting) - the rental company 'should' change it for free or upgrade it for a more energy efficient one for free.

If you do own the property, have you considered an 'on demand' (tankless) water heating system instead?

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I'd sooner stick with the rental, as that's how it's done in ON, but my monthly rental is $17 which seems high...

I will calc the cost of 6kwh (2hrs x 3kw) peak vs off peak leccy. That'll be a good start.
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Wouldn't taking it out and replacing it result in eviction? Every lease/tenancy agreement I have had always said no removing of appliances or any permanent fixture.
I think the rental aspect refers only to renting the heater.

I own my home but the water heater is rented from the power company and included on the normal monthly power bill.
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OK, thrifty me on this one

- Go to the tankless water heater

- Biggest expensive lecky user is the Fridge, followed by the lecky run furnace/AC if you have this.

For the fridge, put it on a 12 hour timer so that its off during the peak hours. Food will keep without spoiling - or do the test to see the optimum cycle

For the furnace, use a power pack inverter that charges during the off peak to have the power to switch over to run the furnace in the peak

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Originally Posted by Pizzawheel
I'd sooner stick with the rental, as that's how it's done in ON, but my monthly rental is $17 which seems high...
Compared to my $6, yes. Mine's a 40 gal size.
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