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Dec 21st 2013, 5:44 am
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warning: content is offensive
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8648031.stm
If I maybe permitted a much needed break from the 'black santa' thread, here is an example of mundane matters being carried to the extreme
It involves, just like the fictional black santa, a comic book type character called 'tin tin'
While at boarding school in Paris must have read all the tin tin books
If I maybe permitted a much needed break from the 'black santa' thread, here is an example of mundane matters being carried to the extreme
It involves, just like the fictional black santa, a comic book type character called 'tin tin'
While at boarding school in Paris must have read all the tin tin books
Dec 21st 2013, 6:15 am
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Re: warning: content is offensive
some common sense at work
although, in the spirit of western democracy, there is always an appeal
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/b...urt-rules.html
although, in the spirit of western democracy, there is always an appeal
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/b...urt-rules.html
Dec 21st 2013, 6:27 am
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Re: warning: content is offensive
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8648031.stm
If I maybe permitted a much needed break from the 'black santa' thread, here is an example of mundane matters being carried to the extreme
It involves, just like the fictional black santa, a comic book type character called 'tin tin'
While at boarding school in Paris must have read all the tin tin books
If I maybe permitted a much needed break from the 'black santa' thread, here is an example of mundane matters being carried to the extreme
It involves, just like the fictional black santa, a comic book type character called 'tin tin'
While at boarding school in Paris must have read all the tin tin books
Dec 21st 2013, 6:44 am
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Re: warning: content is offensive
It's a somewhat tricky issue, amending classic children's stories, but I think it has to be done. Same goes for Punch and Judy shows. Basically, they send the wrong message to young minds.
Dec 21st 2013, 6:51 am
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That was the way some people thought at the time and that has mostly changed
It is no different than re-writing history
Should 'Mein Kampf' be banned or sanitized?
Dec 21st 2013, 7:03 am
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The problem with not amending the books is that they start to fall out of favour. And that would be a greater shame than a bit of modernisation. The bigger picture is that these are children's stories, they entertain and inform, they are not great works of literature or thought.
Dec 21st 2013, 7:20 am
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There is a distinction to be drawn between children's literature and (adult) literature. It would be "idiotic" to amend "Mein Kampf" or material that adults can make judgements on. With the Tin Tin books, there is no reason the originals could not be kept/purchased in a non- children's section. Herge's themes reflected the society he lived in, and they certainly make an interesting historical comparative.
The problem with not amending the books is that they start to fall out of favour. And that would be a greater shame than a bit of modernisation. The bigger picture is that these are children's stories, they entertain and inform, they are not great works of literature or thought.
The problem with not amending the books is that they start to fall out of favour. And that would be a greater shame than a bit of modernisation. The bigger picture is that these are children's stories, they entertain and inform, they are not great works of literature or thought.
Dec 21st 2013, 8:31 am
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What a joke banning books. Some people take this political correctness thing a little too far.
My favourite is everyone changing "eenie meenie minie mo, catch a ... by the toe". A white person is a racist if they use that word no matter what the context but its littered throughout black rap songs that we have to listen to.
Back to the Tintin article, I like the part about
Hell we need to start censoring the Yanks then as they think we all live in igloos and hunt walrus.
My favourite is everyone changing "eenie meenie minie mo, catch a ... by the toe". A white person is a racist if they use that word no matter what the context but its littered throughout black rap songs that we have to listen to.
Back to the Tintin article, I like the part about
A scene in Tintin in the Congo in which the eponymous hero gave a geography lesson to Africans about Belgium was later changed to a maths class
Dec 21st 2013, 8:35 am
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Re: warning: content is offensive
There is a distinction to be drawn between children's literature and (adult) literature. It would be "idiotic" to amend "Mein Kampf" or material that adults can make judgements on. With the Tin Tin books, there is no reason the originals could not be kept/purchased in a non- children's section. Herge's themes reflected the society he lived in, and they certainly make an interesting historical comparative.
The problem with not amending the books is that they start to fall out of favour. And that would be a greater shame than a bit of modernisation. The bigger picture is that these are children's stories, they entertain and inform, they are not great works of literature or thought.
The problem with not amending the books is that they start to fall out of favour. And that would be a greater shame than a bit of modernisation. The bigger picture is that these are children's stories, they entertain and inform, they are not great works of literature or thought.
Surely not Asterix too?
Dec 21st 2013, 11:04 am
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Re: warning: content is offensive
With the Tin Tin books, there is no reason the originals could not be kept/purchased in a non- children's section. Herge's themes reflected the society he lived in, and they certainly make an interesting historical comparative.
The problem with not amending the books is that they start to fall out of favour. And that would be a greater shame than a bit of modernisation. The bigger picture is that these are children's stories, they entertain and inform, they are not great works of literature or thought.
The problem with not amending the books is that they start to fall out of favour. And that would be a greater shame than a bit of modernisation. The bigger picture is that these are children's stories, they entertain and inform, they are not great works of literature or thought.
People are able to make babies in mere moments and, in the same vein, might need to spend a few moments to educate their offspring to be able to appreciate how attitudes have changed over generations. If they don't know any better, or choose not to do so, then just too bad.
60 years ago at boarding school in Paris the teacher(s) used to show tin tin books on the wall by using a simple overhead projector. We were not warned about so called offensive context simply because way back then it was not seen as being offensive.
Me, I have not kept in touch with past school mates but I figure that if any turned out to be racists. or condoned it, or defended it , this was hardly because of any limited exposure to tin tin
(PS I do not expect Alan2005 to agree with me)
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Dec 21st 2013, 11:50 am
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Re: warning: content is offensive
My solution is to leave well enough alone.
People are able to make babies in mere moments and, in the same vein, might need to spend a few moments to educate their offspring to be able to appreciate how attitudes have changed over generations. If they don't know any better, or choose not to do so, then just too bad.
60 years ago at boarding school in Paris the teacher(s) used to show tin tin books on the wall by using a simple overhead projector. We were not warned about so called offensive context simply because way back then it was not seen as being offensive.
Me, I have not kept in touch with past school mates but I figure that if any turned out to be racists. or condoned it, or defended it , this was hardly because of any limited exposure to tin tin
(PS I do not expect Alan2005 to agree with me)
People are able to make babies in mere moments and, in the same vein, might need to spend a few moments to educate their offspring to be able to appreciate how attitudes have changed over generations. If they don't know any better, or choose not to do so, then just too bad.
60 years ago at boarding school in Paris the teacher(s) used to show tin tin books on the wall by using a simple overhead projector. We were not warned about so called offensive context simply because way back then it was not seen as being offensive.
Me, I have not kept in touch with past school mates but I figure that if any turned out to be racists. or condoned it, or defended it , this was hardly because of any limited exposure to tin tin
(PS I do not expect Alan2005 to agree with me)
Dec 21st 2013, 12:03 pm
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I assume you refer to enid blyton
if so, yes I read her books as a child and I am happy to report they did not leave any lasting scars either
http://wiki.ncac.org/The_Little_Blac...hree_Golliwogs
if so, yes I read her books as a child and I am happy to report they did not leave any lasting scars either
http://wiki.ncac.org/The_Little_Blac...hree_Golliwogs
Dec 21st 2013, 12:19 pm
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Re: warning: content is offensive
I assume you refer to enid blyton
if so, yes I read her books as a child and I am happy to report they did not leave any lasting scars either
http://wiki.ncac.org/The_Little_Blac...hree_Golliwogs
if so, yes I read her books as a child and I am happy to report they did not leave any lasting scars either
http://wiki.ncac.org/The_Little_Blac...hree_Golliwogs
