Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12329409)

No one has done that. This is deflection or whataboutism. Some posters, too many to list, say the neo-Nazis are bad, marching in the streets shouting racist slogans isn't something of which they approve. Other posters, carcajou, paw339, morpeth, like Trump, don't explicitly align themselves with the neo-Nazis but, instead, say the neo-Nazis are equivalent to people who don't like them or that they're just boys being boys and they have no power beyond terrorizing a few bystanders so they don't matter. When that looks a bit lame they seek to align those who disapprove of neo-Nazis with violent extremists who also disapprove of the neo-Nazis; it's easy to find some as almost everyone disapproves of the neo-Nazis.

Two things puzzle me a bit here. iirc, morpeth has previously posted that he or she belongs to a religious cult (which one escapes me now). Does morpeth not realize that when the Trumpists have done with the Jews and the Catholics they'll need another scapegoat; it's not safe to condone them? The other is why the Trumpists think the Jews would want to replace them in the first place; you don't see a lot of jacked up trucks and prison tats at White Hart Lane.

Originally Posted by paw339 (Post 12329446)

I would disagree as they are not fleeing persecution in the US they are under threat that their visas may run out.

Turns out President Trump is under time pressure on the "dreamers act" (DACA) because of an upcoming court case that is likely to rule that the dreamers act is illegal because president Obama didn't have the authority to sign the act congress needed to. The court case is in the beginning of September. President Trump has to decide to decide whether or not to defend it.

Deferred Action for Parents of Americans (DAPA) was halted by the courts for the same reasons that the DACA is being challenged.

Originally Posted by macadian (Post 12329597)

A huge thank you to all who have contributed to this thread. I now fully understand the term "giving up the will to live". 😎
I still think the thread title should be changed to "The random thread of bollocks"

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12329409)

No one has done that. This is deflection or whataboutism. Some posters, too many to list, say the neo-Nazis are bad, marching in the streets shouting racist slogans isn't something of which they approve. Other posters, carcajou, paw339, morpeth, like Trump, don't explicitly align themselves with the neo-Nazis but, instead, say the neo-Nazis are equivalent to people who don't like them or that they're just boys being boys and they have no power beyond terrorizing a few bystanders so they don't matter. When that looks a bit lame they seek to align those who disapprove of neo-Nazis with violent extremists who also disapprove of the neo-Nazis; it's easy to find some as almost everyone disapproves of the neo-Nazis.

Two things puzzle me a bit here. iirc, morpeth has previously posted that he or she belongs to a religious cult (which one escapes me now). Does morpeth not realize that when the Trumpists have done with the Jews and the Catholics they'll need another scapegoat; it's not safe to condone them? The other is why the Trumpists think the Jews would want to replace them in the first place; you don't see a lot of jacked up trucks and prison tats at White Hart Lane.

Originally Posted by macadian (Post 12329597)

A huge thank you to all who have contributed to this thread. I now fully understand the term "giving up the will to live". 😎
I still think the thread title should be changed to "The random thread of bollocks"

Originally Posted by carcajou (Post 12329684)

This sounds unhinged.

Originally Posted by carcajou (Post 12329685)

I will definitely double- and triple-think before diving into one of these again.

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12329870)

It is safer to stay inside the echo-chamber if that's your bent.

Originally Posted by carcajou (Post 12329875)

I don't live in an echo chamber. This thread, however, is a lunatic asylum.

Originally Posted by carcajou (Post 12329875)

This thread, however, is a lunatic asylum.

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12330087)

Take a look at posts 31 and 32 in this thread if you want lunacy. :rofl: