Ukraine flight PS752 crash
#106
Re: Ukraine flight PS752 crash
As much as I dislike Trump and his stupidity, in this instance he merely set the stage upon which others acted.
This aircraft was downed because those designing the Iranian defence structure failed to address ALL possible scenarios and we have all witnessed time and again, it's the unexpected that bites you in the bum.
Iranian faults stretch from allowing the aircraft to take off to failing to communicate with the man with his finger on the button to siting an AA battery along a recognised flight path.
But we can all point the finger after the event, just be thankful that you weren't the guy who'll inevitably be blamed for simply doing his job to the best he could.
This aircraft was downed because those designing the Iranian defence structure failed to address ALL possible scenarios and we have all witnessed time and again, it's the unexpected that bites you in the bum.
Iranian faults stretch from allowing the aircraft to take off to failing to communicate with the man with his finger on the button to siting an AA battery along a recognised flight path.
But we can all point the finger after the event, just be thankful that you weren't the guy who'll inevitably be blamed for simply doing his job to the best he could.
#107
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Re: Ukraine flight PS752 crash
I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall in the room where the decision was made and what happened and why they suspected the Ukrainian Flight as being suspicious but not the other flights that departed in the hours before.
Even after 2 flights cancelled but 4 other flights departed, those were all Iranian airlines flights though.
Even after 2 flights cancelled but 4 other flights departed, those were all Iranian airlines flights though.
#108
Re: Ukraine flight PS752 crash
If Iran hadn't attacked the US interests in the region, the US wouldn't have responded, and so on.
However, to blame the shooting down of a civilian airliner by "accident" by Iran on the US is not that credible, IMO. I accept that others will disagree, usually, upon their attitude towards Trump.
However, to blame the shooting down of a civilian airliner by "accident" by Iran on the US is not that credible, IMO. I accept that others will disagree, usually, upon their attitude towards Trump.
#109
Re: Ukraine flight PS752 crash
If Iran hadn't attacked the US interests in the region, the US wouldn't have responded, and so on.
However, to blame the shooting down of a civilian airliner by "accident" by Iran on the US is not that credible, IMO. I accept that others will disagree, usually, upon their attitude towards Trump.
However, to blame the shooting down of a civilian airliner by "accident" by Iran on the US is not that credible, IMO. I accept that others will disagree, usually, upon their attitude towards Trump.
Words matter.
#110
Re: Ukraine flight PS752 crash
I have heard several people refer to this missile strike as an accident. That is deeply misleading. The aircraft was clearly deliberately targeted by the SAM operator, and it's not as if somebody leaned on the trigger button my mistake when reaching for their cup of coffee. It was an error, for sure; it was a mistake, absolutely. But it was demonstrably not an accident.
Words matter.
Words matter.
Danny Butterman: Hey, why can't we say "accident," again?
Nicholas Angel: Because "accident" implies there's nobody to blame.
#111
Re: Ukraine flight PS752 crash
I have heard several people refer to this missile strike as an accident. That is deeply misleading. The aircraft was clearly deliberately targeted by the SAM operator, and it's not as if somebody leaned on the trigger button my mistake when reaching for their cup of coffee. It was an error, for sure; it was a mistake, absolutely. But it was demonstrably not an accident.
Words matter.
Words matter.
#112
Re: Ukraine flight PS752 crash
It's not satisfactory because it'll spread the blame if you start to investigate why it happened, but someone has to be pilloried and it'll be the squad in charge of the missiles.
I'm tempted to ask the question, 'Why aren't other instances of 'collateral damage' subject to a similar scrutiny and condemnation?'
The disgusting answer is that these innocents don't die in the full light of media frenzy.... and because it's all too frequent to be newsworthy.
#114
Re: Ukraine flight PS752 crash
One of the versions in Ukraine is that Iran’s air defense specifically shot down a Boeing.