Trudeau

Old Oct 17th 2019, 12:25 am
  #226  
me/moi
Thread Starter
 
Shard's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 24,539
Shard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Trudeau

Not very convincing, I'm afraid.
Shard is offline  
Old Oct 17th 2019, 2:08 pm
  #227  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 72
sun burnt in aus has a reputation beyond reputesun burnt in aus has a reputation beyond reputesun burnt in aus has a reputation beyond reputesun burnt in aus has a reputation beyond reputesun burnt in aus has a reputation beyond reputesun burnt in aus has a reputation beyond reputesun burnt in aus has a reputation beyond reputesun burnt in aus has a reputation beyond reputesun burnt in aus has a reputation beyond reputesun burnt in aus has a reputation beyond reputesun burnt in aus has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Trudeau

Originally Posted by Shard
Not very convincing, I'm afraid.

LOL

this is the age of the narcissist - i'm not surprised
sun burnt in aus is offline  
Old Oct 18th 2019, 4:16 am
  #228  
BE Forum Addict
 
jimf's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
Posts: 3,356
jimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Trudeau

Liberals, Conservatives, Trudeau, Scheer pretty much the same according to the Guardian anyway.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...e_iOSApp_Other
jimf is offline  
Old Oct 18th 2019, 4:27 am
  #229  
me/moi
Thread Starter
 
Shard's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 24,539
Shard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Trudeau

Originally Posted by jimf
Liberals, Conservatives, Trudeau, Scheer pretty much the same according to the Guardian anyway.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...e_iOSApp_Other
Not my interpretation of the article. It seemed to be urging a shift to the left, recognised that Conservatives were far from that, and that with a strong NDP vote the Liberals may end up in moving away from the right to form a coalition with them.
Shard is offline  
Old Oct 18th 2019, 5:19 am
  #230  
Oscar nominated
 
BristolUK's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Location: Moncton, NB, CANADA
Posts: 52,282
BristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Trudeau

Originally Posted by jimf
Liberals, Conservatives, Trudeau, Scheer pretty much the same according to the Guardian anyway.
That's pretty much North America. Right of centre and the 'other' party a bit less right of centre

BristolUK is offline  
Old Oct 18th 2019, 5:35 am
  #231  
BE Forum Addict
 
Paul_Shepherd's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,113
Paul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Trudeau

Originally Posted by Shard
Not my interpretation of the article. It seemed to be urging a shift to the left, recognised that Conservatives were far from that, and that with a strong NDP vote the Liberals may end up in moving away from the right to form a coalition with them.
Thats how I interpreted it too ...

The Guardian so left wing though, its the newspaper version of the BBC! impartiality seems to be a thing of the past when it comes to news coverage nowadays.
Paul_Shepherd is offline  
Old Oct 18th 2019, 5:42 am
  #232  
BE Forum Addict
 
jimf's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
Posts: 3,356
jimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Trudeau

Originally Posted by Shard
Not my interpretation of the article. It seemed to be urging a shift to the left, recognised that Conservatives were far from that, and that with a strong NDP vote the Liberals may end up in moving away from the right to form a coalition with them.
It seemed to be saying that there is very little difference between the liberals and conservatives so a liberal government would mean more of the same. Only by being forced into a coalition with the NDP would the liberals be likely to deviate from common liberal/conservative aligned policies.
jimf is offline  
Old Oct 18th 2019, 5:55 am
  #233  
Assimilated Pauper
 
dbd33's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Location: Ontario
Posts: 40,024
dbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Trudeau

Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd
Thats how I interpreted it too ...

The Guardian so left wing though, its the newspaper version of the BBC! impartiality seems to be a thing of the past when it comes to news coverage nowadays.
I don't agree with this at all. The BBC is trudging along the same as it ever has but the conservatives have swung violently to the right. Johnson/Trump/Scheer/Ford would have been viewed as a lunatic fringe by even Thatcher.
dbd33 is offline  
Old Oct 18th 2019, 6:15 am
  #234  
BE Forum Addict
 
jimf's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
Posts: 3,356
jimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond reputejimf has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Trudeau

Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd
Thats how I interpreted it too ...

The Guardian so left wing though, its the newspaper version of the BBC! impartiality seems to be a thing of the past when it comes to news coverage nowadays.
Even Corbyn isn’t left wing enough for the Guardian. Channel 4 news is always worth a watch to see what the latest “**** the tories” views are. The BBC probably genuinely think they are unbiased, just like David Icke thought he was the son of God.
jimf is offline  
Old Oct 18th 2019, 6:52 am
  #235  
Oscar nominated
 
BristolUK's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Location: Moncton, NB, CANADA
Posts: 52,282
BristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Trudeau

Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd
The Guardian so left wing though, its the newspaper version of the BBC! impartiality seems to be a thing of the past when it comes to news coverage nowadays.
In the guardian today...
Boris Johnson has a deal. Now MPs must end the agony and vote it through

We as MPs need to come together to get Brexit done – and move on
This piece by Labour's Melanie Onn and Conservative's Victoria Prentis.

So two articles going completely against the Guardian's general editorial stance and this is something they frequently do on any political subject - and one of them jointly done by MPs from two opposing parties.

I think your view about the paper is fairly typical but completely wrong.

Can you come up with a better example of impartiality or fairness? How about that Mail front page in the Boris thread. Impartial?
BristolUK is offline  
Old Oct 18th 2019, 7:10 am
  #236  
BE Forum Addict
 
CanadaJimmy's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2009
Location: Langley, BC
Posts: 1,970
CanadaJimmy has a reputation beyond reputeCanadaJimmy has a reputation beyond reputeCanadaJimmy has a reputation beyond reputeCanadaJimmy has a reputation beyond reputeCanadaJimmy has a reputation beyond reputeCanadaJimmy has a reputation beyond reputeCanadaJimmy has a reputation beyond reputeCanadaJimmy has a reputation beyond reputeCanadaJimmy has a reputation beyond reputeCanadaJimmy has a reputation beyond reputeCanadaJimmy has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Trudeau

Originally Posted by jimf
Liberals, Conservatives, Trudeau, Scheer pretty much the same according to the Guardian anyway.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...e_iOSApp_Other
It's sad and untrue when people think this way. What party gets into power will have a real effect on people's lives, particularly when it comes to government funded facilties, programs, services etc.

Doug Ford just gutted Ontario's Student loans (OSAP) and some people have had to drop out of their courses because they could no longer get the loans required to pay for them. That kind of thing is a real consequence.
CanadaJimmy is offline  
Old Oct 18th 2019, 7:23 am
  #237  
me/moi
Thread Starter
 
Shard's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 24,539
Shard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Trudeau

Originally Posted by dbd33
I don't agree with this at all. The BBC is trudging along the same as it ever has but the conservatives have swung violently to the right. Johnson/Trump/Scheer/Ford would have been viewed as a lunatic fringe by even Thatcher.
Would this be the lunatic spectrum (most to least)...

Trump
Ford
Johnson
Scheer*

* honourable mention due to religiosity.



Shard is offline  
Old Oct 18th 2019, 7:28 am
  #238  
me/moi
Thread Starter
 
Shard's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 24,539
Shard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Trudeau

Originally Posted by jimf

Even Corbyn isn’t left wing enough for the Guardian. Channel 4 news is always worth a watch to see what the latest “**** the tories” views are. The BBC probably genuinely think they are unbiased, just like David Icke thought he was the son of God.
Even in the Guardian there is a range of political leaning. Very few writers would not find Corbyn sufficiently left wing, in fact maybe none. C4 is reassuringly consistent in its views which I would say are "leftish." The Beeb seems to try very hard to present a neutral political view, despite being staffed by many on the left. Considering the counterweight of the Telegraph, Mail and Express, I don't think it's a problem.
Shard is offline  
Old Oct 18th 2019, 7:38 am
  #239  
BE Forum Addict
 
Paul_Shepherd's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,113
Paul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond reputePaul_Shepherd has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Trudeau

Originally Posted by dbd33
I don't agree with this at all. The BBC is trudging along the same as it ever has but the conservatives have swung violently to the right. Johnson/Trump/Scheer/Ford would have been viewed as a lunatic fringe by even Thatcher.
I am talking about journalism not politicians..... Trump is very right wing, and is an idiot in general so is not a good representation at all. An uneducated buffoon..

The BBC have always been left wing biased.....just ask Peter Sissons he wrote a book about it!

Paul_Shepherd is offline  
Old Oct 18th 2019, 7:40 am
  #240  
me/moi
Thread Starter
 
Shard's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 24,539
Shard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond reputeShard has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Trudeau

Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd
I am talking about journalism not politicians..... Trump is very right wing, and is an idiot in general so is not a good representation at all. An uneducated buffoon..

The BBC have always been left wing biased.....just ask Peter Sissons he wrote a book about it!
A bit difficult now...
Shard is offline  

Contact Us - Manage Preferences Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Your Privacy Choices -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.