Trial by media
#76
Re: Trial by media
I agree with that, in the sense that it doesn't seem to be a story worthy of international reportage.
As I see it, a man-child decided to try and get his face on television by shouting things he knew to be offensive to lots of people. He succeeded. Among the people he offended was his employer who then gave him the, metaphorical, boot. He was lucky not to get a literal boot but, otherwise, he got what he was looking for. He has his 15 minutes. If no one, including his employer, wants to have anything to do with him anymore, fair enough; he set out to give offence and he's given it.
As I see it, a man-child decided to try and get his face on television by shouting things he knew to be offensive to lots of people. He succeeded. Among the people he offended was his employer who then gave him the, metaphorical, boot. He was lucky not to get a literal boot but, otherwise, he got what he was looking for. He has his 15 minutes. If no one, including his employer, wants to have anything to do with him anymore, fair enough; he set out to give offence and he's given it.
#77
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Then you are missing the point. The reporter who stood her ground and fought back instead of rushing away with her head down and cheeks burning is the point. Shauna is the point. Her, and everyone of the strong smart women, and men, arguing on here that this is not acceptable, ever.
I have to say that I only know of this fashion from this thread but I would have thought that, if one were a sports broadcaster, male or female, doing one's job and someone interrupted to bellow obscenities, one would take that person to task. If one were athletic, one might do so physically.
Rather wimpish not to do so, surely?
#78
Re: Trial by media
Is there anyone arguing that this is acceptable?
I have to say that I only know of this fashion from this thread but I would have thought that, if one were a sports broadcaster, male or female, doing one's job and someone interrupted to bellow obscenities, one would take that person to task. If one were athletic, one might do so physically.
Rather wimpish not to do so, surely?
I have to say that I only know of this fashion from this thread but I would have thought that, if one were a sports broadcaster, male or female, doing one's job and someone interrupted to bellow obscenities, one would take that person to task. If one were athletic, one might do so physically.
Rather wimpish not to do so, surely?
#79
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Semantics.
She should be tough enough is already on the list of excuses. Along with 'can't you take a joke' and 'it was only a compliment'.
I have to say that I only know of this fashion from this thread but I would have thought that, if one were a sports broadcaster, male or female, doing one's job and someone interrupted to bellow obscenities, one would take that person to task. If one were athletic, one might do so physically.
Rather wimpish not to do so, surely?
Rather wimpish not to do so, surely?
#80
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Surely if someone interrupted your work to shout obscentities you'd react badly. The theme of the thread seems to be that sports people (except for this one) do not. Why ever not?
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#81
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He has said he sorry so let's all forgive and forget now, except that now it's all over the interenet so just do the forgive bit
CityNews says the man sent Hunt a written apology on Friday.
The station quotes Hunt as saying she appreciated him reaching out with what she felt was a "very genuine apology" and was "happy to accept it."
CityNews says the man sent Hunt a written apology on Friday.
The station quotes Hunt as saying she appreciated him reaching out with what she felt was a "very genuine apology" and was "happy to accept it."
#82
Re: Trial by media
I'm sure this has been asked earlier, but if it had been a boozed up ladette throwing offensive insults to a male reporter, then would have there have been such an uproar? Would it be a case of the man not being manly enough to take an insult, and thus it not being seen as a problem?
I'm NOT trying to condone the idiot for his offensive comment, before anyone tries to accuse me of being sexist.
I'm NOT trying to condone the idiot for his offensive comment, before anyone tries to accuse me of being sexist.
#83
Re: Trial by media
Media reports say the guy was an engineer. If he has professional accreditation his loss of his most recent employment may only be the start of his problems.
This was not so much trail by media as awareness through media. Those condoning the Arsenal fan's outrageous behaviour should be aware that, had this incident been reported other than through the media, he may still have been facing pretty severe consequences. Take a look at the publicly available results of disciplinary hearings by professional bodies and you'll find examples of inappropriate behaviour that never made the media.
This was not so much trail by media as awareness through media. Those condoning the Arsenal fan's outrageous behaviour should be aware that, had this incident been reported other than through the media, he may still have been facing pretty severe consequences. Take a look at the publicly available results of disciplinary hearings by professional bodies and you'll find examples of inappropriate behaviour that never made the media.
#84
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Re: Trial by media
awareness by media. exactly.
#85
Re: Trial by media
Media reports say the guy was an engineer. If he has professional accreditation his loss of his most recent employment may only be the start of his problems.
This was not so much trail by media as awareness through media. Those condoning the Arsenal fan's outrageous behaviour should be aware that, had this incident been reported other than through the media, he may still have been facing pretty severe consequences. Take a look at the publicly available results of disciplinary hearings by professional bodies and you'll find examples of inappropriate behaviour that never made the media.
This was not so much trail by media as awareness through media. Those condoning the Arsenal fan's outrageous behaviour should be aware that, had this incident been reported other than through the media, he may still have been facing pretty severe consequences. Take a look at the publicly available results of disciplinary hearings by professional bodies and you'll find examples of inappropriate behaviour that never made the media.
1. No one that I know of have condoned his behaviour, unless u can paste one in for all to see ?
2. The people who you quote who were dismissed without a media wide frenzy, can go get another job once the incident cools down, this guy is now a life long unemployed "foul mouthed" chap. As any employee would most likely just need to refer to Google for an up to date resume.
#86
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1. No one that I know of have condoned his behaviour, unless u can paste one in for all to see ?
2. The people who you quote who were dismissed without a media wide frenzy, can go get another job once the incident cools down, this guy is now a life long unemployed "foul mouthed" chap. As any employee would most likely just need to refer to Google for an up to date resume.
2. The people who you quote who were dismissed without a media wide frenzy, can go get another job once the incident cools down, this guy is now a life long unemployed "foul mouthed" chap. As any employee would most likely just need to refer to Google for an up to date resume.
2. Not easily, if they have had their licence to practice revoked.
Apologies for inaccuracy in my original post, he may not have been an Arsenal fan, a TFC fan or even a soccer fan.
#87
Re: Trial by media
I'm sure this has been asked earlier, but if it had been a boozed up ladette throwing offensive insults to a male reporter, then would have there have been such an uproar? Would it be a case of the man not being manly enough to take an insult, and thus it not being seen as a problem?
I'm NOT trying to condone the idiot for his offensive comment, before anyone tries to accuse me of being sexist.
I'm NOT trying to condone the idiot for his offensive comment, before anyone tries to accuse me of being sexist.
For those going oh blah blah blah if he loses his license to practise etc. My question is WHY would hypothetical "he" lose his license to practise if the action had nothing to do with his job
#88
Re: Trial by media
2. The people who you quote who were dismissed without a media wide frenzy, can go get another job once the incident cools down, this guy is now a life long unemployed "foul mouthed" chap. As any employee would most likely just need to refer to Google for an up to date resume.
You people who say it was right for him to lose his job (and probably won't be able to get another one in his field) , have fun paying for his welfare / benefit cheques through your taxes! He was a hard working employee earning his keep and his stupid action outside of work should have had nothing to do with his day job.
#89
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Exactly!! Society bothers me sometimes... This guys actions were in no way correct, but was the punishment really fitting to the crime?
You people who say it was right for him to lose his job (and probably won't be able to get another one in his field) , have fun paying for his welfare / benefit cheques through your taxes! He was a hard working employee earning his keep and his stupid action outside of work should have had nothing to do with his day job.
You people who say it was right for him to lose his job (and probably won't be able to get another one in his field) , have fun paying for his welfare / benefit cheques through your taxes! He was a hard working employee earning his keep and his stupid action outside of work should have had nothing to do with his day job.
If they made it clear to him what they expected at all times, then why shouldn't he lose his job?
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#90
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Re: Trial by media
I'm sure this has been asked earlier, but if it had been a boozed up ladette throwing offensive insults to a male reporter, then would have there have been such an uproar? Would it be a case of the man not being manly enough to take an insult, and thus it not being seen as a problem?
I'm NOT trying to condone the idiot for his offensive comment, before anyone tries to accuse me of being sexist.
I'm NOT trying to condone the idiot for his offensive comment, before anyone tries to accuse me of being sexist.
I think that many are not seeing this as a violent action and they should. It was a rape threat.