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Re: Today's shootings
Originally Posted by dave_j
(Post 12442300)
You don't need to visit sites, just switch on the TV to taste the invective being whipped up. If you have a lunatic who'll shoot up a school because he's got a gripe, then look around, the place is full of lunatics, each of whom's full of hate and fear for the otherside... and there are so many other sides to choose from.
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Re: Today's shootings
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 12442591)
I don't have a television. I do know lots of Americans. I read lots of American newspapers and magazines. Civil War has never been mentioned. Which channel is it that you go to for frothing?
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Re: Today's shootings
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 12442610)
The poster known as DBD is in fact a Mennonite...AICMFP ! ;)
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Re: Today's shootings
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 12442454)
It's not like you to miss that's what I tried to capture in the thread title I chose, especially when the opening comment was very much about the regularity of it.
Bad day? ;) fake tears and shock and horror, "thoughts and prayers" from the Republicans, and the usual DO NOTHING fake talk - led of course by the NRA bought politicians and paranoia that is much of the USA psyche. As someone on NYT said, if Sandy Hook didn't do anything, nothing will do anything (unless all the Republican Senators' kids get shot and even then they will probably just fold for the money at the end of the day) |
Re: Today's shootings
Originally Posted by jerryhung
(Post 12443567)
To be honest, I think most people are just tired of the usual cycle:
fake tears and shock and horror, "thoughts and prayers" from the Republicans, and the usual DO NOTHING fake talk - led of course by the NRA bought politicians and paranoia that is much of the USA psyche. As someone on NYT said, if Sandy Hook didn't do anything, nothing will do anything (unless all the Republican Senators' kids get shot and even then they will probably just fold for the money at the end of the day) |
Re: Today's shootings
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 12443621)
I think it'll be a long time before anything changes. I think the gun companies are now about where the cigarette companies were in the 1970s; some people think the societal cost of the use of their product is too high for the benefit offered but most either don't or don't care. The gun companies are better organized and will be more aware of how the domestic market can disappear.
Yes agreed, a long time. I think it was Australia which outlawed gun ownership (in a substantive manner) immediately after the Port Arthur massacre. Ditto NZ with some incident. The US has had some very sad, very distressing murders - mass shootings - and yet nothing changes. The last time in Las Vegas, Trump said "let's not politicize this, it's not the time to talk gun reform" This time he made no mention of it. The politicians are supported by the NRA, but also, many many Americans (and others :p) support gun ownership. The Muricans in particular seem to be quite paranoid and believe in the right to defend their lives and property - especially against a scary American government. So it's a two way bind. I think the Publucans only stopped the legislation to allow purchase of silencers after Las Vegas. Why they allow such high powered gear to be bought so easily and by anyone is weird. Also rolling back Obama's legislation to prevent mentally ill persons from owning guns was just plain evil IMO |
Re: Today's shootings
Originally Posted by jerryhung
(Post 12443669)
but also, many many Americans (and others :p) support gun ownership. The Muricans in particular seem to be quite paranoid and believe in the right to defend their lives and property - especially against a scary American government.
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Re: Today's shootings
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...i-nikolas-cruz
The FBI admitted on Friday it failed to investigate a specific report in January that Nikolas Cruz could be plotting a school shooting. On 5 January, a tipster who was close to Cruz called the FBI and provided information about Cruz’s guns, desire to kill people, erratic behavior and disturbing social media posts. The FBI says the caller expressed concerns Cruz could attack a school. Police records obtained by CNN show that police were called to his house 39 times over seven years. ...His other fixation was guns. The AR-15 that the authorities said he used to carry out the massacre was kept in a gun box in his bedroom to which he had his own key. Given this litany, investigators are under pressure to explain how warning signs were missed. Despite strong signals, including evidence that he was treated for psychological difficulties last year, why was he allowed to fall off the radar of mental health services? Even more relevant, perhaps, is the YouTube post from a user named Nikolas Cruz expressing a desire to become “a professional school shooter”, which the FBI probed without conclusion. How did the suspect pass a federal background check that enabled him to buy an AR-15 at Sunrise Tactical Supply gun shop in Coral Springs, entirely legally? |
Re: Today's shootings
Originally Posted by jerryhung
(Post 12443567)
... nothing will do anything (unless all the Republican Senators' kids get shot and even then they will probably just fold for the money at the end of the day)
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Re: Today's shootings
It is pretty vile but don't worry it's not literal, it just highlights how cruel and inhumane Republicans and their politicians are when it comes to gun control - vile to me is enabling mass shooters to kill children and adults and stripping away laws that stop mentally ill people from obtaining high powered weaponry.
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Re: Today's shootings
Dig deeper... Ever hear of Canadian "hate speech" laws?
You've just casually slandered half the US population...again. |
Re: Today's shootings
Originally Posted by tooboocoo
(Post 12444719)
You've just casually slandered half the US population...again.
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Re: Today's shootings
Originally Posted by tooboocoo
(Post 12444719)
Dig deeper... Ever hear of Canadian "hate speech" laws?
You've just casually slandered half the US population...again. Is that you Mitch??? http://britishexpats.com/forum/trail.../#post12442905 http://britishexpats.com/forum/trail...-909230/page4/ Research gun legislation and votes/supporters but maybe this: http://britishexpats.com/forum/trail.../#post12442546 |
Re: Today's shootings
Originally Posted by tooboocoo
(Post 12444719)
Dig deeper... Ever hear of Canadian "hate speech" laws?
You've just casually slandered half the US population...again. No person shall be convicted of an offence under subsection (2) (a) if he establishes that the statements communicated were true; (b) if, in good faith, the person expressed or attempted to establish by an argument an opinion on a religious subject or an opinion based on a belief in a religious text; (c) if the statements were relevant to any subject of public interest, the discussion of which was for the public benefit, and if on reasonable grounds he believed them to be true; or (d) if, in good faith, he intended to point out, for the purpose of removal, matters producing or tending to produce feelings of hatred toward an identifiable group in Canada. |
Re: Today's shootings
Originally Posted by jerryhung
(Post 12445145)
I love it how you pop up every time a shooting happens (murder of US citizens) to come up and defend Republicans.
Is that you Mitch??? http://britishexpats.com/forum/trail.../#post12442905 http://britishexpats.com/forum/trail...-909230/page4/ Research gun legislation and votes/supporters but maybe this: http://britishexpats.com/forum/trail.../#post12442546 I comment wherever I please. You'd obviously prefer that your disgraceful comments just slide by, but that's tough luck. |
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