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Old Jan 19th 2019 | 5:39 am
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Originally Posted by Annetje
Re Catalonia ... Are you really suggesting the EU should have intervened in an internal Spanish problem ?
Absolutely not! But, Catalonia becoming an independent country within the EU is a very different thing than without the EU. It would be an administrative exercise as borders wouldn't effectively change.

Ditto Scotland really, of the last referendum went the other way.
 
Old Jan 19th 2019 | 6:09 am
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Originally Posted by Pizzawheel
Absolutely not! But, Catalonia becoming an independent country within the EU is a very different thing than without the EU. It would be an administrative exercise as borders wouldn't effectively change.

Ditto Scotland really, of the last referendum went the other way.
OK, sorry. Misunderstood your post.

The Irish problem is very complicated and tbh I think (my opinion) the DUP is absolutely not helping.
With their stance on Brexit they forget that NI in general voted remain.
 
Old Jan 19th 2019 | 11:34 am
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Originally Posted by Annetje
Re Catalonia ... Are you really suggesting the EU should have intervened in an internal Spanish problem ?
Depends on how straight their bananas are.

 
Old Jan 19th 2019 | 12:08 pm
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Originally Posted by dbd33
I'm still undecided if electing Trump or voting for Brexit will turn out to be the most stupid thing done by people in my lifetime. I'm up to day with the Cheeto but I've rather fallen behind on the Brexit side of things so can someone explain the latest developments, simply and clearly for me?

My understanding is that:

The UK gave notice to leave the EU, the notice expires in less than three months.

May negotiated a deal to cover the administration of the leaving. It requires action to be implemented and that requires a successful vote in Parliament.

The vote on May's deal is set for next Tuesday, the vote is expected to go against it.

The same MPs voting against May's package don't want the leaving notice to just expire so they've introduced legislation objecting to a "no deal Brexit". They've set a timeline of three days after Tuesday for something to happen.

Accepting that no one involved has much of a clue, faced with a need to end an apartment rental agreement or employment contract early, they'd hide in the toilet; what do they think can happen? A new offer from the EU, a national realization that it was all a bad dream, extension of the current limbo for a decade? Are they after something and, if so, do they know what it is?
We INVADE

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Old Jan 19th 2019 | 12:35 pm
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Originally Posted by dbd33
relative poverty of the Republic
Wow you actually are that ignorant.
 
Old Jan 19th 2019 | 12:55 pm
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Originally Posted by bc2015
Wow you actually are that ignorant.
Enlighten me, do.
 
Old Jan 19th 2019 | 1:18 pm
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Originally Posted by dbd33
Enlighten me, do.
"relative poverty" is an interesting choice of words. Ireland has a higher GDP per capita, higher average wage and is currently growing at a faster rate than the UK. Also, socially it is far ahead of UK-ruled NI - abortion and same sex marriage are not available in NI despite being available in the rest of the UK (wonder why?). If anything the risk of a United Ireland is it will depress Ireland, not the other way around.
 
Old Jan 19th 2019 | 2:01 pm
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Originally Posted by bc2015
(wonder why?)
No idea. I accept that I was incorrect on the economic situation.
 
Old Jan 23rd 2019 | 7:31 am
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So plan B is plan A with sprinkles on. But, not even many sprinkles. So the plan is to force the deal through by scaring both the brexiteers (you'll lose your brexit) and the remainers (terrified of no deal).

You know, it might work.
 
Old Jan 24th 2019 | 1:46 am
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Default Re: Three Days to Plan B

Originally Posted by Pizzawheel
So plan B is plan A with sprinkles on. But, not even many sprinkles. So the plan is to force the deal through by scaring both the brexiteers (you'll lose your brexit) and the remainers (terrified of no deal).

You know, it might work.
Or May could simply try that old Harper trick of proroguing Parliament.
 
Old Jan 24th 2019 | 4:26 am
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
Or May could simply try that old Harper trick of proroguing Parliament.
I believe that awfully posh (or even poshly awful) chap Jacob Rees-Mogg has already mooted that idea. I don't think it would go down well...
 

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