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rivingtonpike Apr 11th 2014 2:19 pm

Thought of a goodie!! - Pstorius, innocent or guilty????
 
To get things rolling and to quote Black Adder - " he's as guilty as a puppy sitting next to a pile of poo!!!

Discuss.......

rivingtonpike Apr 11th 2014 2:21 pm

Re: Thought of a goodie!! - Pstorius, innocent or guilty????
 
even spelt his bloody name wrong!!!

Novocastrian Apr 11th 2014 2:26 pm

Re: Thought of a goodie!! - Pstorius, innocent or guilty????
 

Originally Posted by rivingtonpike (Post 11215437)
even spelt his bloody name wrong!!!

Recycled joke. He doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Oakvillian Apr 11th 2014 3:29 pm

Re: Thought of a goodie!! - Pstorius, innocent or guilty????
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11215440)
Recycled joke. He doesn't have a leg to stand on.

I think his defence team are well and truly stumped.

Sally Redux Apr 11th 2014 3:35 pm

Re: Thought of a goodie!! - Pstorius, innocent or guilty????
 
Tim Brooke-Taylor!

dbd33 Apr 12th 2014 1:18 am

Re: Thought of a goodie!! - Pstorius, innocent or guilty????
 
He done it but responsibility is diminished, he was legless at the time.

Greenhill Apr 12th 2014 6:38 am

Re: Thought of a goodie!! - Pstorius, innocent or guilty????
 
The surgeons might have been able to save his legs...
But they'd run out of op shins.

happyhammers Apr 13th 2014 6:39 am

Re: Thought of a goodie!! - Pstorius, innocent or guilty????
 
I think the jury might run away with this one :D

The police caught Pistorius trying to leave South Africa by boat, it was an easy catch as he never had his sea legs :D

I think he's guilty by the way , banged to rights, get it

I could go on

Shard Apr 13th 2014 12:02 pm

Re: Thought of a goodie!! - Pstorius, innocent or guilty????
 
Guilty. Psychopathic tendencies.

caretaker Apr 13th 2014 8:17 pm

Re: Thought of a goodie!! - Pstorius, innocent or guilty????
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11217527)
Guilty. Psychopathic tendencies.

Do you mean that Pistorius exhibits psychopathic tendencies? A desire for control and rationalising that social conventions and the law shouldn't apply to him because he's somehow special? Trying to transfer or project blame for something one has obviously done oneself can be a good indicator but is also a normal defence in a trial. Psychopathy isn't against the law and even if it was hearsay doesn't make evidence. They'll still have to try to prove he intended to kill her and it wasn't an error.

Hawkmoon77 Apr 14th 2014 3:31 am

Re: Thought of a goodie!! - Pstorius, innocent or guilty????
 
Pistorious:

a) loaded his pistol with expanding bullets, designed to cause maximum damage to human tissue, (banned from use in international warfare since 1899)

b) fired 4 times into a confined space, altering the aim on subsequent rounds, all fired from short range

Whoever he thought was behind the (locked) door, he took deliberate acts to inflict fatal harm to person known or unknown. He was a trained in the use of firearms and had full knowledge of the implications of his actions.

Given the above, I find it hard not to believe that he is guilty of murder.

caretaker Apr 14th 2014 5:15 am

Re: Thought of a goodie!! - Pstorius, innocent or guilty????
 

Originally Posted by Hawkmoon77 (Post 11218396)
Pistorious:

a) loaded his pistol with expanding bullets, designed to cause maximum damage to human tissue, (banned from use in international warfare since 1899)

b) fired 4 times into a confined space, altering the aim on subsequent rounds, all fired from short range

Whoever he thought was behind the (locked) door, he took deliberate acts to inflict fatal harm to person known or unknown. He was a trained in the use of firearms and had full knowledge of the implications of his actions.

Given the above, I find it hard not to believe that he is guilty of murder.

A) Not illegal for use outside of international warfare and widely used for protection.
B) Tried to either kill or disable his intended target behind the door - not in dispute
C) If the court can prove he knew it was his girlfriend and not an intruder hiding in the bathroom then murder is what he'll probably be convicted of.
The arguments and summations by prosecution and defense, the judge's charge to the jury (if they do that in SA) lead up to the climax and hopefully the procedures of law ensure both sides are afforded opportunity to present their cases on an equal footing.

Hawkmoon77 Apr 14th 2014 5:26 am

Re: Thought of a goodie!! - Pstorius, innocent or guilty????
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 11218567)
A) Not illegal for use outside of international warfare and widely used for protection.
B) Tried to either kill or disable his intended target behind the door - not in dispute
C) If the court can prove he knew it was his girlfriend and not an intruder hiding in the bathroom then murder is what he'll probably be convicted of.
The arguments and summations by prosecution and defense, the judge's charge to the jury (if they do that in SA) lead up to the climax and hopefully the procedures of law ensure both sides are afforded opportunity to present their cases on an equal footing.

a) agreed, the ammo is legal. But it is illegal to not store firearm correctly. I believe the firearm was not stored correctly.

b) If he tried to kill anybody, then it is murder. The person was behind a locked door, so it seems hard to argue self defense at the point the shots were fired.

c) Let us all hope that justice is served, be he innocent or guilty.

Jerseygirl Apr 14th 2014 6:32 am

Re: Thought of a goodie!! - Pstorius, innocent or guilty????
 
He may get an Oscar for his performance in court.

Novocastrian Apr 14th 2014 10:20 am

Re: Thought of a goodie!! - Pstorius, innocent or guilty????
 
It's all a bit reminiscent of that OJ shit isn't?

It's only a matter of time before we find out that the sock doesn't fit.


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