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And we will have to pay once more for her Funeral - My thoughts are with the amount of love / hate for her in this country she does not warrant one. Diana and the Queen Mum - ok, they were loved by many and the nation needed one to heal ( especially with Diana). Does the UK really need this to recover from the death of Thatcher?

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By, uh, throwing out antiquated working practices and laying off the useless wasters?

Am I the only one who remembers the days when you could have as many phones as you wanted so long as they were black Bakelite and installed by an authorized BT employee after three months on the waiting list?

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Ask yourself the question does their need to be any OT paid even if it is a state funeral for her? She is dead so nobody can harm her;)
There again some group might choose this event to make their statement.

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Also RIP to all those who lost their lives on the Belgrano.

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Soldiers are always political tools.

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What about those on the Sir Galahad?

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Before Thatcher, the British people owned the gas companies, the telecom companies, the railways, the mines, the steelworks, the airline, the airports, the sea ports, the water companies, the electric companies, the bus companies...

Now we pay our hard-earned money to the French, the Spanish, the Russians, the Chinese, the Saudis and the Qataris who must be sitting back thinking they can't quite believe what bloody idiots we are.

Good going, Maggie.

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True but would you prefer that you speak English or German?

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How many times have the public had to pay for her funeral previously?

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[QUOTE=Almost Canadian;10646998]
This was a response to the following post:

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian View Post
Correct as the Police and Govt basically made them contribute. Now when the EDL, National Front or other groups hold marches who pays the OT?

When you have any major event be it a concert, March, Royal Wedding there is always going to be extra costs for Policing.
Standing between 2 sets of rival fans is no holiday and many coppers have been hurt WHY because those louts are just hell bent on causing trouble.

Most coppers have families as well you really think they enjoy all the aggro that goes along with their job regardless of how well or underpaid they are.

Sure someone has to do their job so be thankful there are those willing to do it.
And Im under no illusion that all coppers are saints either.

My response was

And we will have to pay once more (for policing) for her Funeral - My thoughts are with the amount of love / hate for her in this country she does not warrant one. Diana and the Queen Mum - ok, they were loved by many and the nation needed one to heal ( especially with Diana). Does the UK really need this to recover from the death of Thatcher?

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You must be much younger than me because I can remember when it was a nine month wait to get a telephone.

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I have no love for Thatcher but I can't understand someone who wishes to celebrate the death of anyone.

As far as unions were concerned, she did the right thing, they needed curbing back. The only problem was she didn't know when to stop.

She killed a lot of industry, not just mining, she wanted to turn the UK into a service Country for other Countries, if not for Thatcher, maybe myself and quite a few others would still be living in the UK.

She was also a bit of a cheat too, with the boundary changes she made to guarantee a Tory win before one of the elections.

The Falklands war may not have happened if she hadn't made the defence cuts she made and reduced the protection in that area.

Miss her? no, celebrate her death? no. its not nice on anyones family to lose a loved one.

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I don't, but then I didn't understand all the fuss about Diana dying, and out of choice wouldn't have paid for her to have a state funeral either. Neither warrant one imo.

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I was well happy when Reagan died. But then he was directly responsible of the torture, rape and murder of hundreds of thousands of civilians.

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You just gave a long (but far from complete) list of reasons to celebrate her passing.

I don't imagine her remaining family are suffering further from the sort of comments being made on the net today.


Among other 'wrongs' missing from the posts are those relating to government contracts given to the companies Mark and Denis were linked to; money straight back in the family purse.

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UK taxpayers camped out overnight and lined the streets for Diana ! Can't see that happening for Thatcher. They may in the hope to see world leaders, but not to mourn her.

The Telegraph has announced that they had to close their website due to the number of hate comments about Thatcher. The women was not loved.

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+ 1

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Not enough room on the coffin.

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Also have had a bottle ready since the Poll Tax days.

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-2

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:goodpost: :goodpost: +1

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IN YOUR OPINION!

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:thumbsup: +1 x

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Carol Thatcher was sacked by the BBC for being a racist. To be fair I'm not certain about the other part so fair enough for deleting that.

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Lol
stef

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Was the other part about Mark being an illegal arms trader?

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Or this taken from public record
Thatcher pleaded guilty in January 2005 to breaking anti-mercenary legislation in South Africa by investing in an aircraft "without taking proper investigations into what it would be used for", admitting in court that he had paid the money, but said he was under the impression it was to be invested in an air ambulance service to help impoverished Africans. The judge rejected this explanation and Thatcher was fined R3,000,000 rand and received a four-year suspended jail sentence.[12]

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Yeah it was. So which part was libellous?

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Has this been posted yet?

http://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk/

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But the first six months you were waiting for them to be invented.

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Do we get a day off for her funeral?

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Id prefer it to be a Stat Holiday and Im working that day;)

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I agree with your middle para, however, it is 23 years since she was PM.

The railways were privatised after she was PM. The vast majority of the mines were shut after she was PM. The miners union had previously caused the collapse of a government - Mrs T was always transparent in her intent that wouldn't happen again. Far more people voted for her party over 3 elections than voted for the last two labour governments. Even more voted for John Major.

There has been plenty of opportunity to reverse the decisions she took if the will had been there...........

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I'll go on strike if we don't get a national holiday for this. I think she would have approved.

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The disappointing thing is that ATOS has just said she is fit to return to work.

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I think you'll find most were shut before she was PM. Coal had been in decline for decades, but no-one complains about earlier post-WWII governments closing mines and laying off hundreds of thousands of miners. It's all Thatcher's fault.

Besides, coal causes Global Warming, so closing the mines was clearly an example of her forward thinking on the environment.

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Except her friends in the media - knighthood for the editor of The Sun FFS - were always frightening people about the red menace, the enemy within etc to the extent that many people seriously believed that the alternative involved handing power over to The Kremlin.

I remember reports about a Scargill speech receiving "soviet style" applause from the clapping audience. :blink:

Rubbish like this, pictures of Tony Benn looking mad, talk of bogeymen "seizing power" (by winning a vote, just like Thatcher) was so common that enough people to make a difference took it all on board.

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But no new regulations were put in place, no changes to senior management, just a share issue and non profitable funded by the government, none existent profits supposedly returned to the government organisztion/industry, became profitable and dividends were paid to both the new share holders, whilst the top management now got share options..
The same people were running the show.. before and after.. no change at the working level
It was only when they could rake off some profit for themselves that these industries made a profit

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Yet another reason to mourn her passing with a national holiday.

What people forget about Maggie is that not only was she a great politician but a great character actress too. I'll never forget her portrayal of Zelda in Terrahawks.

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Certainly coal mining had been declining for decades before the strike. The proposed closures that prompted the strike were actually fairly modest - the bulk of the closures occured 10 years or so later. The strategy had been leaked some years previously........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridley_Plan