Former Lancastrian

I just came across this article in another thread and believe it or not it was published in the Daily Mail.
Some will be asking who is Manzoor Moghal well he is the chairman of the Muslim Council. If you read the article you will hopefully be thanking him for speaking the truth and putting forward a well balanced argument.

Muslims MUST stop blaming others for young's radicalization​, writes Manzoor Moghal | Daily Mail Online

One of the best comments I have found which also is applicable to Canada

My reaction to the claim that the police should have prevented people going to Syria has always been "Do you really, really want to live in a country where the police a) know where you are going b) have the arbitrary power to prevent you travelling c) know what your beliefs and plans are? That country is not Britain and God willing never will be.

Shard

A couple nights ago Jon Snow interviewed a film maker who has been making a documentary on radicalisation - why so many young British muslims are attracted by ISIS. Her considered opinion after two years research was that the muslim youth don't feel "accepted" into British society, and gain great comfort from the unconditional acceptance that ISIS provides. She was imploring that Britain must find a way to accept these vulnerable youth. It didn't seem to occur to her, that those that do end up feeling marginalised are victims of their own rejection of British/European culture.

Greenhill

What exactly is "British/European culture", if it doesn't include sex, drugs, rock 'n' roll, alcohol and MMORPGs?

Pizzawheel

Decent curry and proper donner kebabs.

Greenhill

MMMMmmmmmm... proper doner kebab...

Pizzawheel

I'm off to Harveys for a good cry.

Greenhill

Look at this one. Stacked full of crisp veggies. The meat is probably all lamb. Nice, fresh and lightly grilled pita. Has a nice looking pepper on it. Probably so tasty that it doesn't need any sauces.

Perhaps some hot sauce, though.

Pizzawheel

OMG.

Yes its vital that the hot sauce is applied directly to the meat and before the salad is put on; after that a mere sprinkling of salt is all that's required for heaven.

Harvey's was quite good: their veggie burger with extra bacon is nearly as good as the Scotland Yard original. And the family deal suits the three of us just fine...

Shard

That's not really OMG grade...maybe 7/10. A truly awesome 10/10 kebab is the shawarma in rolled wrap (not a burrito wrap but middle Eastern flat bread). Although after 6-7 pints, one can make allowances.

Greenhill

It's a yiros that I truly yearn for. From that place in Cambridge, that I might have mentioned on here before.

Pizzawheel

Nay nay and thrice nay! Absolutely has to be pocket bread for a donner; when wrapped up it's a schwarma which is nice but a different animal.

I eat the contents of the pita pocket with my fingers and depending on how hungry (read drunk) I am I may nibble a bit of the bread, eat it all, or ditch it all. When eating kebab sober (which is the default these days) I tend to ditch the bread which has often soaked up most of the grease, making it even more healthy.

Shard

That is reprehensible, well, at least it is outside of Scarborough! It's not even proper meat in those big processed doner slabs, mostly ground up unmentionables. If you're consuming sober, Iskander style is the way to go.

Oink

I had to make do with a box of chicken Mcnuggets last night.

Shard

That is sad indeed.

Oink

Coupled with the fact that HID ate half of them when I went for a slash.