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You mentioned it so were covered yeh ?

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I don't really want to get into who's worst is worse but I do feel it's worth pointing out that one was a mistake (among 450 air strikes) while the other is official policy. :(

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That's the price you pay for ****ing with the US, their coalition and randomly murdering so called infidels.

If they called a truce then no one would get killed by accident would they

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This was not a mistake. A pilot made a conscious decision with purpose because he wanted to destroy what was on a screen and he knew this would mean killing people. Let's not call this 'collatoral damage', let's call it what it was, the murdering of innocent people because not enough effort was put in to keep them safe.

I seem to remember the Iraqi government, in a vain attempt to prove the negative that they had no WMD, not ****ing with the US prior to the invasion; didn't do them any good did it? I don't remember anyone describing the invasion as an accident... not 'Ooops Sorry'.. more like 'Mission accomplished.'

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Your support of IS, even tho disturbing, does actually have relevance and is another reason why we should declare this as a war. Then all civilian casualties on both sides can be argued as being part of the fog of war and not an accident or lone wolf crap.

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Magnumpti I might have missed it but was a thread started when the bombing of the marketplace in Baghdad happened or again when ISIS attacked a football field of children playing in Iraq?

I feel like it's an accusation that could be levelled at most however uncomfortable that makes people feel is that the people/media react more to white/western deaths.. Almost like their lives or loss of them matter more..:(

I felt like this thread was a good example of that..

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By all mean use this thread to add these things too, no prejudices on this thread :blink:

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I think you might have missed the point:lol:

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It's a valid point and one that occurs to me many times.

I wonder though, is it because it's more newsworthy when it happens in countries not experiencing such things. :unsure:

There was a good example in the Guardian the other day - and one can't really accuse that paper of such favouritism - when the main story concerned an attack in France or Germany (I don't recall which one :o) involving a few and down the page and over a bit was a report of a suicide bombing killing tens of people.

It seemed like the spots on the page should have been reversed but when there are parts of the world where such things happen almost daily, however terrible they are, they do become less newsworthy.

It's a bit like the 70s with "meanwhile in other news another mortar attack on a police station in Northern Ireland" :(

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In WW2 when we sent bombers over to carpet bomb Berlin and other areas was there the same sympathy for the civilians who were killed as there is for the civilians killed by US bombs and missiles, I don't think it ever crossed their minds back then.

IMO no one should be dying all deaths from this war is a terrible thing, but that's what happens in a war, so politicians should declare it as such.

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Am I correct in thinking that the main thrust of your argument is that by calling a conflict a war in some way legitimises the act of murder simply because 'that's what happens in a war?'?

The carpet bombing of Germany in WW2 doesn't support your thesis simply because the RAF and USAAF carried them out, the idea that lack of sympathy at the time means that such acts are allowable betrays the madness of such times.

I find your assertion that I support IS, simply because I criticise actions that are self evidently wrong to be an argument of last resort, the type of argument that would shoot the messenger or assassinate a journalist for publishing a cartoon.

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Just call it what it is, it's a war, we are at war, and casualties will ensue. If it's called a war then could we not negotiate some kind of peace treaty? Just hiding under a blanket of mad men, poor sighted airman and crazies dosnt leave us with much hope really does it ?

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If this thread were called idiocy, could we just ignore it?

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Wondered how long it would take you to arrive and spew your personal rude drivel

This thread is about what is actually happening every day in the world, wasn't really ment to be an opinionated thread. So let's just agree to wait till the next atrocity and post on here then ok

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"Just hiding under a blanket of mad men, poor sighted airman and crazies dosnt leave us with much hope really does it ?"

Better hope than relying on your nonsensical diatribes.