Terrorist to get 10.5m reward
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I say the Harper government that was in power at the time is to blame, and 10.5 million isn't their most costly mistake. From the onset there were problems in Afghanistan. They tried to hush up the killing of Afghan civillians by JTF-2 operatives who were working with US special forces (and Harper said anyone who wanted to press for answers wasn't patriotic and didn't support the troops), then 2 years later Canadian soldiers became headline news for turning Afghan prisoners over to local authorities knowing they would all be tortured. I like the military, don't like war crimes. and I think I'm more patriotic than Steven Harper. When the government found out a Canadian citizen had been captured as an enemy fighter and that he was a minor and that his dad was a big Al-Qaeda funder they should have taken an interest instead of just leaving him there. It doesn't take years and years to wring information out of a teenager.
We could run a pool on what Khadr does with the money, the lawyer will get a cut for his work and for taking him into his house, but that leaves a lot. I suspect he'll give most of it away to deflect criticism.
We could run a pool on what Khadr does with the money, the lawyer will get a cut for his work and for taking him into his house, but that leaves a lot. I suspect he'll give most of it away to deflect criticism.
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Re: Terrorist to get 10.5m reward
I say the Harper government that was in power at the time is to blame, and 10.5 million isn't their most costly mistake. From the onset there were problems in Afghanistan. They tried to hush up the killing of Afghan civillians by JTF-2 operatives who were working with US special forces (and Harper said anyone who wanted to press for answers wasn't patriotic and didn't support the troops), then 2 years later Canadian soldiers became headline news for turning Afghan prisoners over to local authorities knowing they would all be tortured. I like the military, don't like war crimes. and I think I'm more patriotic than Steven Harper. When the government found out a Canadian citizen had been captured as an enemy fighter and that he was a minor and that his dad was a big Al-Qaeda funder they should have taken an interest instead of just leaving him there. It doesn't take years and years to wring information out of a teenager.
We could run a pool on what Khadr does with the money, the lawyer will get a cut for his work and for taking him into his house, but that leaves a lot. I suspect he'll give most of it away to deflect criticism.
We could run a pool on what Khadr does with the money, the lawyer will get a cut for his work and for taking him into his house, but that leaves a lot. I suspect he'll give most of it away to deflect criticism.
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Re: Terrorist to get 10.5m reward
I say the Harper government that was in power at the time is to blame, and 10.5 million isn't their most costly mistake. From the onset there were problems in Afghanistan. They tried to hush up the killing of Afghan civillians by JTF-2 operatives who were working with US special forces (and Harper said anyone who wanted to press for answers wasn't patriotic and didn't support the troops), then 2 years later Canadian soldiers became headline news for turning Afghan prisoners over to local authorities knowing they would all be tortured. I like the military, don't like war crimes. and I think I'm more patriotic than Steven Harper. When the government found out a Canadian citizen had been captured as an enemy fighter and that he was a minor and that his dad was a big Al-Qaeda funder they should have taken an interest instead of just leaving him there. It doesn't take years and years to wring information out of a teenager.
We could run a pool on what Khadr does with the money, the lawyer will get a cut for his work and for taking him into his house, but that leaves a lot. I suspect he'll give most of it away to deflect criticism.
We could run a pool on what Khadr does with the money, the lawyer will get a cut for his work and for taking him into his house, but that leaves a lot. I suspect he'll give most of it away to deflect criticism.
In the 2010 Supreme Court ruling the court found that Khadrs human rights were being violated while being imprisoned in Gitmo.
In that case, the court dealt with the visit of CSIS and Foreign Affairs officials to the prison in 2003 and 2004, under the previous Liberal government.
For three weeks ahead of an interview with a Foreign Affairs official in 2004, Khadr was subjected to the "frequent flyer program," a method of sleep deprivation in which Khadr was moved to a different cell every three hours. The court said the Canadian official knew about this before conducting the interview.
Oh and BTW who was a member of the Liberal Cabinet in 2004? The Rt Hon Ralph Goodale.
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You're right, it's easy to forget about Paul Martin. According to wiki Chretien sent the diplomatic requests and that went nowhere, and they didn't even inform the government when they moved him to Guantanamo, which is a pointed way of saying You're out of the loop. I still don't like Harper.
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And I have been paying taxes in Canada this week, I'm on vacation in Toronto. Pretty much everything I buy has taxes. But should whether I'm a Canadian taxpayer have a bearing on whether I can express an opinion?
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I do and liberal is fine however, liberal to the point of absurdity, as this decision confirms, not so much. It would seem that there were three infringements of the charter per the Supreme Court. Fine. Given his back ground, $1 per infringement seems about right. He has been more than adequately compensated in that he was repatriated to Canada at the Canadian Tax Payers expense and is now free so to speak. Many believe he should still be incarcerated in the U.S. serving his sentence. I am one of that number. I respect your opinion, and your freedom to express it however my opinion as to how overtly Liberal Canada is to me today, is hardly justification for suggesting I get on the next plane out of YYZ....or is it? Smacks of the liberal way or the 401 to YYZ. 😎😉
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Re: Terrorist to get 10.5m reward
Do you disagree Khadr should receive some compensation for his torture and confinement, or is it just the amount you disagree with?
Whether the soldier's widow should get the money or not is something a court will likely end up deciding if she sues Khadr, but much of the money will probably be swallowed by lawyers fees before that would be decided.
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I personally disagree and would go further to say he should have had his citizenship taken away along with his family being deported. In the Previous wars didn't they hang people for treason.?
Maybe Isis will now compensate the families of the people they chose to behead ? But don't hold ya breath.
Maybe Isis will now compensate the families of the people they chose to behead ? But don't hold ya breath.
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Re: Terrorist to get 10.5m reward
I say the Harper government that was in power at the time is to blame, and 10.5 million isn't their most costly mistake. From the onset there were problems in Afghanistan. They tried to hush up the killing of Afghan civillians by JTF-2 operatives who were working with US special forces (and Harper said anyone who wanted to press for answers wasn't patriotic and didn't support the troops), then 2 years later Canadian soldiers became headline news for turning Afghan prisoners over to local authorities knowing they would all be tortured. I like the military, don't like war crimes. and I think I'm more patriotic than Steven Harper. When the government found out a Canadian citizen had been captured as an enemy fighter and that he was a minor and that his dad was a big Al-Qaeda funder they should have taken an interest instead of just leaving him there. It doesn't take years and years to wring information out of a teenager.
We could run a pool on what Khadr does with the money, the lawyer will get a cut for his work and for taking him into his house, but that leaves a lot. I suspect he'll give most of it away to deflect criticism.
We could run a pool on what Khadr does with the money, the lawyer will get a cut for his work and for taking him into his house, but that leaves a lot. I suspect he'll give most of it away to deflect criticism.
Edit: I see that others made the same point and that you have conceded that you were wrong. I must learn to read to the end of threads.
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Re: Terrorist to get 10.5m reward
I don't get the angst. Surely the rule of law is something everyone who appreciates living in a democratic country must treasure.
Whatever he has/has not done*, Khadr is entitled to due process. The Canadian government was complicit in denying him due process. The tariff of c. $10m was set in previous cases.
*If you take his lawyer at face value, Khadr was "convicted" in a political show trial based on a guilty plea obtained under duress. I would like to see the conviction tested in a proper court of law.
Whatever he has/has not done*, Khadr is entitled to due process. The Canadian government was complicit in denying him due process. The tariff of c. $10m was set in previous cases.
*If you take his lawyer at face value, Khadr was "convicted" in a political show trial based on a guilty plea obtained under duress. I would like to see the conviction tested in a proper court of law.
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Take the throwing of the grenade and killing a US soldier away and u still have a teenage terrorist building IED's with his dad and fratinizing with the enemy!! Bin laden to name and shame. This I have seen on several news report videos on CBC and therefore a treason conviction would most likely stand up in a court.
http://m.torontosun.com/2017/07/05/o...ti-millionaire
In the bombed-out and bullet-riddled al-Qaida compound in Afghanistan where Omar Khadr was the only survivor, albeit shot up and near death, U.S. military personnel found a very telling video.
It showed Khadr, 15 when captured, helping another al-Qaida bomb-maker put together improvised explosive devices (IEDs), the kind that killed so many of our Canadian soldiers during their deployment in the volatile eastern fringes of Afghanistan.
http://m.torontosun.com/2017/07/05/o...ti-millionaire
In the bombed-out and bullet-riddled al-Qaida compound in Afghanistan where Omar Khadr was the only survivor, albeit shot up and near death, U.S. military personnel found a very telling video.
It showed Khadr, 15 when captured, helping another al-Qaida bomb-maker put together improvised explosive devices (IEDs), the kind that killed so many of our Canadian soldiers during their deployment in the volatile eastern fringes of Afghanistan.
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Re: Terrorist to get 10.5m reward
Take the throwing of the grenade and killing a US soldier away and u still have a teenage terrorist building IED's with his dad and fratinizing with the enemy!! Bin laden to name and shame. This I have seen on several news report videos on CBC and therefore a treason conviction would most likely stand up in a court.
Omar Khadr, from bomb-making, convicted killer to multi-millionaire | Opinion | Toronto Sun
In the bombed-out and bullet-riddled al-Qaida compound in Afghanistan where Omar Khadr was the only survivor, albeit shot up and near death, U.S. military personnel found a very telling video.
It showed Khadr, 15 when captured, helping another al-Qaida bomb-maker put together improvised explosive devices (IEDs), the kind that killed so many of our Canadian soldiers during their deployment in the volatile eastern fringes of Afghanistan.
Omar Khadr, from bomb-making, convicted killer to multi-millionaire | Opinion | Toronto Sun
In the bombed-out and bullet-riddled al-Qaida compound in Afghanistan where Omar Khadr was the only survivor, albeit shot up and near death, U.S. military personnel found a very telling video.
It showed Khadr, 15 when captured, helping another al-Qaida bomb-maker put together improvised explosive devices (IEDs), the kind that killed so many of our Canadian soldiers during their deployment in the volatile eastern fringes of Afghanistan.
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Re: Terrorist to get 10.5m reward
You do have to take this away. There is no credible evidence that I am aware of that implicates him.
Except that his group was fighting the Americans, not Canadians.
therefore a treason conviction would most likely stand up in a court.