Re: Tamil Protest / Riot in Toronto
 

There was I thinking this crap all started over 25 years ago, when the Tamil Tigers wanted an independant state seperate from Sri Lanka. If i recall correctly, the Tamil Tigers hid behind civilians when attacking legitimate Sri Lankan government forces, much like their supporters in Toronto last night hid behind women and children.

I don't see people from Darfur protesting their plight, which I feel is a much worthier cause than that of the Tamil Tigers.

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So the Tamils have less right to a seperate state than the Palestinians? Were Pakistan and India not established from Partion?

I'm sorry but the only people I have seen complaining about this situation are TO residents (white anglo saxon ones at that).

Re: Tamil Protest / Riot in Toronto
 

Tamils already have a state in India, Tamil Nadu. Toronto residents are the ones complaining because we're the ones being affected by these protests. How would Calgary residents like it if protesters shut down Calgary's downtown core?

I accept people that people have the right to protest under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but I don't think the Charter intended the protests to cause massive disruption to the lives of law-abiding people.

I don't think violence is the way to achieve a seperate state. Both HAMAS and the LTTE would get more sympathy from me if they both laid down their weapons and surrendered.

Re: Tamil Protest / Riot in Toronto
 

Actually yes, I have several South African friends, all of whom say they would never go back there to live. I have some who left the country as they couldn't get a job, and where told it was because they were white. I have friends who had their house forcibly taken from them by the local government and handed over to a homeless black family. I have friends who are trying to get their mother to leave the country as soon as possible as she has been burgled 7 times in the last year and the police do nothing because she is white. I have friends who try and get documents but cannot because they are not allowed to issue them to them as they're white. And these aren't the same groups of friends, I've had several here in Canada and in the UK, and the stories are all the same, in the last ten years the country has switched to a black state where if you're not black you're not worth anything.

Re: Tamil Protest / Riot in Toronto
 

Fair dos then

You, like me, are speaking from acquired knowledge. I will not suggest your (nor my) friends are wrong, merely that they have different experiences.

Re: Tamil Protest / Riot in Toronto
 

Reverse apartheid, and it's tolerated by most of the world because to condemn it would be seen to be anti-black.

Re: Tamil Protest / Riot in Toronto
 

Rightly or wrongly perhaps. BUT most of the world sees SA as a black country (there is an argument that suggests that at the time the first Dutch Settlers landed in the south the only non white's living in what is now SA where the Bushmen).

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Of course, it does seem throughout the world, and legislation, that only white people can be racist.

Re: Tamil Protest / Riot in Toronto
 

I'm sure the bushmen were there a long time before the first white people arrived, same as the Australian aborigines, the Canadian First Nations people and the US Native Indian tribes before white people arrived in their respective countries. Somewhere back in history, an indirect relative won the VC at Rourke's Drift, though he was wrongly portrayed in the movie as a malingerer.

Even if HAMAS and the LTTE were to get their own states, I think a fair number of their nationals would be as reluctant to move back as the South Africans are. I doubt many Afghan refugees will move back to Afghanistan even if the conditions which caused them to leave are ended.

Re: Tamil Protest / Riot in Toronto
 

I agree. Even ethnic cleansing is a form of racism.

Re: Tamil Protest / Riot in Toronto
 

Quite an extreme example of racism I would have thought. Whether or not it excuses these uppity fellows blocking the traffic is another matter.

Re: Tamil Protest / Riot in Toronto
 

I think you're missing my point.

Prior to the end of apartheid SA was ruled by the 'whites'

Post apartheid SA is ruled by (what some would argue) 'immigrant' Black people. There are few (if any) Bushmen in the current administration.

Re: Tamil Protest / Riot in Toronto
 

How many aboriginals, First Nations or Native Americans serve in their respective governments? Many Brits are descended from Roman or Norman invaders.

Re: Tamil Protest / Riot in Toronto
 

A quota system is also a form of racism.

Re: Tamil Protest / Riot in Toronto
 

Should we protest on the Trans-Canada Highway then?