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Shard Feb 4th 2014 11:56 pm

steak
 
Bought a nice piece of sirloin, and need to cook it sans barbecue. Any suggestions? In the past, on rare occasions where I cook steak indoors, I have fried it in a cast iron pan, but I am wondering if I need a griddle pan or should even grill it? Generally aim for medium - medium rare.

Tangram Feb 5th 2014 12:10 am

Re: steak
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11114362)
Bought a nice piece of sirloin, and need to cook it sans barbecue. Any suggestions? In the past, on rare occasions where I cook steak indoors, I have fried it in a cast iron pan, but I am wondering if I need a griddle pan or should even grill it? Generally aim for medium - medium rare.

Flash fry briefly then pop it in the oven. It's the Mr Ramsey way.

SchnookoLoly Feb 5th 2014 12:32 am

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We just did this this weekend, grilled tenderloin steaks on a cast iron griddle pan. Turned out great. I'd recommend it. We had 5 steaks on at once, all came out a perfect medium rare.

Mr Bean Feb 5th 2014 2:28 am

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The majority of meat in this house is done over charcoal.

Aviator Feb 5th 2014 2:31 am

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Get the bbq to a good temp, sear it on the BBQ quickly on both sides, straight on the grill, cook as required. I like it rare, so does not take more than a few mins to cook.

Tangram Feb 5th 2014 4:22 am

Re: steak
 

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 11114631)
Get the bbq to a good temp, sear it on the BBQ quickly on both sides, straight on the grill, cook as required. I like it rare, so does not take more than a few mins to cook.

Yep, rare or blue for me.

Oink Feb 5th 2014 5:14 am

Re: steak
 

Originally Posted by Tangram (Post 11114383)
Flash fry briefly then pop it in the oven. It's the Mr Ramsey way.

Yes, plus adda a little knob of herb butter on top before you pop it into the oven. You only need to sear one side as the pan will be hot when you put in the oven.

Shard Feb 5th 2014 5:44 am

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So it putting it in the oven under the grill or baking it?

Oink Feb 5th 2014 5:58 am

Re: steak
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11114938)
So it putting it in the oven under the grill or baking it?


Baking

Pre heat oven to 365f. Heat the frying pan on high, a little oil on the steak and some seasoning. Fry the steak for about 1-1/2 to 2 mins. Take pan off heat, flip the steak over and put it in the oven. Depending on thickness and how you want it done leave it in for about 7 to 10 minutes. Take it out and let it rest for 2 mins on a plate. Enjoy.

Tangram Feb 5th 2014 6:27 am

Re: steak
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11114969)
Baking

Pre heat oven to 365f. Heat the frying pan on high, a little oil on the steak and some seasoning. Fry the steak for about 1-1/2 to 2 mins. Take pan off heat, flip the steak over and put it in the oven. Depending on thickness and how you want it done leave it in for about 7 to 10 minutes. Take it out and let it rest for 2 mins on a plate. Enjoy.

More detail than post #2.

Oink Feb 5th 2014 6:33 am

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Originally Posted by Tangram (Post 11115013)
More detail than post #2.

I do a variation of this method for chicken and fish.

Shard Feb 5th 2014 6:47 am

Re: steak
 
Ok, thanks. Will give the pan+oven method a try.

Almost Canadian Feb 5th 2014 7:05 am

Re: steak
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11115048)
Ok, thanks. Will give the pan+oven method a try.

Bloody hell. Has the steak sat there for 7 hours?

Oink Feb 5th 2014 7:10 am

Re: steak
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11115048)
Ok, thanks. Will give the pan+oven method a try.

What about some chips and peas?

Shard Feb 5th 2014 8:53 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11115104)
What about some chips and peas?

Yes probably with some frites. Peas have to wait for a roast or a pie.

Oink Feb 5th 2014 9:03 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11115294)
Yes probably with some frites. Peas have to wait for a roast or a pie.

Get you. You've been watching Downton Abbey haven't you? ;) And steak without peas is barbaric, you'll have nothing to soak up the leftover puddle of tomato sauce with. :thumbdown:

Shard Feb 5th 2014 9:09 am

Re: steak
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11115306)
Get you. You've been watching Downton Abbey haven't you? ;) And steak without peas is barbaric, you'll have nothing to soak up the leftover puddle of tomato sauce with. :thumbdown:

:sick:

Atlantic Xpat Feb 5th 2014 12:55 pm

Re: steak
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11115314)
:sick:

I'm entirely with you on that one.

Aside from that, Oink's directions sound spot on and I'll try them next time I cook steak. :thumbsup:

rwin Feb 5th 2014 1:35 pm

Re: steak
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11114362)
Bought a nice piece of sirloin, and need to cook it sans barbecue. Any suggestions?

Aren't you suppose to boil everything?

Oink Feb 5th 2014 1:45 pm

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Originally Posted by rwin (Post 11115593)
Aren't you suppose to boil everything?

:rofl:

nldfc Feb 7th 2014 9:58 am

Re: steak
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11114969)
Baking

Pre heat oven to 365f. Heat the frying pan on high, a little oil on the steak and some seasoning. Fry the steak for about 1-1/2 to 2 mins. Take pan off heat, flip the steak over and put it in the oven. Depending on thickness and how you want it done leave it in for about 7 to 10 minutes. Take it out and let it rest for 2 mins on a plate. Enjoy.



1st time I tried sticking a steak in the oven - Need more details on time for a 3" thick tenderloin though - after 10 minutes it was still mooing in the middle :D - Apart from that it was really good - No dill butter so experimented with some garlic powder , onion and paprika mixed up with eversweet marg

Oink Feb 7th 2014 10:08 am

Re: steak
 

Originally Posted by nldfc (Post 11118708)
1st time I tried sticking a steak in the oven - Need more details on time for a 3" thick tenderloin though - after 10 minutes it was still mooing in the middle :D - Apart from that it was really good - No dill butter so experimented with some garlic powder , onion and paprika mixed up with eversweet marg

When its that thick I tend to bash it about a bit with the mallet. You'll just need to experiment with the time, but its the best method of you want it juicy. Make sure you pre heat oven and have a frying pan that can go in the oven. :)

nldfc Feb 7th 2014 10:17 am

Re: steak
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11118723)
When its that thick I tend to bash it about a bit with the mallet. You'll just need to experiment with the time, but its the best method of you want it juicy. Make sure you pre heat oven and have a frying pan that can go in the oven. :)

Had to swap it over to a cake pan - will invest in one of the cast iron pans I think :thumbup:

Jingsamichty Feb 7th 2014 10:27 am

Re: steak
 

Originally Posted by nldfc (Post 11118739)
Had to swap it over to a cake pan - will invest in one of the cast iron pans I think :thumbup:

Look at you with your 3" thick steaks... put it throught the mincer, man, and have it with mashed tatties an' peas. :)

nldfc Feb 7th 2014 10:43 am

Re: steak
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 11118752)
Look at you with your 3" thick steaks... put it throught the mincer, man, and have it with mashed tatties an' peas. :)

Only an arab could be daft enough to stick a tenderloin through the mincer ;)

nldfc Feb 7th 2014 10:17 pm

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Bought a proper cast iron skillet from Quibids last night so will give this another try when it comes in :)

Oink Feb 8th 2014 5:22 am

Re: steak
 

Originally Posted by nldfc (Post 11118739)
Had to swap it over to a cake pan - will invest in one of the cast iron pans I think :thumbup:

They rust and are heavy. Get yourself a Calphalon or an All Clad.

Edited to note I see you've gone down the cast iron pan route. Good luck. :thumbup:

nldfc Feb 8th 2014 6:03 am

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Only paid 9 bucks postage included for it so if its a bit shit - I will try an all clad

caretaker Feb 8th 2014 6:27 am

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Nothing wrong with cast, new ones should be oiled and seasoned in the oven. A trip to the Sally Ann or Value Village usually saves that step. I have a lot of skillets, some cast some steel, one anodized Analon 22" I got new at Value Village for $4 (that's a $100 pan). I own 2 square cast iron frying pans! I think cooking steaks can be tricky if you don't do a lot of it. Learn the poking the base of your thumb trick to judge resistance in a med-rare steak and you'll be ok.

nldfc Feb 8th 2014 8:34 am

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I'm far too posh to look in value village ;)

caretaker Feb 8th 2014 9:00 am

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Originally Posted by nldfc (Post 11119629)
I'm far too posh to look in value village ;)

Prize for first posh Newf in my experience.

Shard Feb 8th 2014 9:39 am

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Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 11119649)
Prize for first posh Newf in my experience.

:rofl:

nldfc Feb 10th 2014 1:16 am

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Tried the same again last night and left it in for 25 minutes this time and it was more "medium well" than the "medium rare" I prefer . I exaggerated the size the other day as it was only 2 1/4" thick and that was with the cake pan again .

Guessing about 15 mins may be the ideal time for that size of steak to come out as medium rare - maybe a little less if using the cast iron skillet - I will give it another blast next week

Oink Feb 10th 2014 4:16 am

Re: steak
 

Originally Posted by nldfc (Post 11121739)
Tried the same again last night and left it in for 25 minutes this time and it was more "medium well" than the "medium rare" I prefer . I exaggerated the size the other day as it was only 2 1/4" thick and that was with the cake pan again .

Guessing about 15 mins may be the ideal time for that size of steak to come out as medium rare - maybe a little less if using the cast iron skillet - I will give it another blast next week

I cooked one on Saturday night using the method above. It was about a pound and about 1.5 inches. We got them for Coscto. Bashed it, seasoned it, heated up the flying pan and seared one side, then flipped over and in the 365f oven for exactly 10.5 mins, let it rest and it was perfect. So I'm not sure whats different with yours. Maybe not pounding it makes it cook slowly or maybe the oven is not calibrated. Also the tenderizing makes a big difference as I'm flattening it out, but it does make it nice and tender. Don't forget to put a bit of Clinf Film over ht meat before you bash it or the kitchen strats to look like a Provo interrogation room.

I also think the cast iron pan may take longer to cool down once its really hot. With my pan I take it off the heat for about 30 seconds before flipping over so it doesn't burn the other side.

nldfc Feb 10th 2014 4:22 am

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Was a Costco steak but I didn't have the heart to bash it :) - Will report back with next weeks times and doneness levels

Oink Feb 10th 2014 4:29 am

Re: steak
 

Originally Posted by nldfc (Post 11122076)
Was a Costco steak but I didn't have the heart to bash it :) - Will report back with next weeks times and doneness levels

Was it one of their strip loin grilling steaks? That's apparently what we have. If I marinate it in soya sauce, ginger and bollocks then I'll cook it on the barbecue but only when the weather is nice.

ultrarunner Feb 10th 2014 4:35 am

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Nobody in their their right mind buys steak from Costco????? It's pants

If what want juicy cowboy steaks, you go to your local butcher

nldfc Feb 10th 2014 4:36 am

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Nope - It was the tenderloin - The Costco strip loins are good cuts as well but I always do them on the BBQ

nldfc Feb 10th 2014 4:37 am

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Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 11122104)
Nobody in their their right mind buys steak from Costco????? It's pants

If what want juicy cowboy steaks, you go to your local butcher

Nothing wrong with Costco steaks :confused:

caretaker Feb 10th 2014 4:44 am

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I think the steaks the Serb club has for Friday steak day are from Costco, they come individually cryovac'd, does that sound like them? I don't eat beefsteak very often but thought these were pretty good.


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