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Old Sep 6th 2013, 11:35 pm
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Dave has give a speech defending Britain at the G20...

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/v...l-island-video

Was he defending the realm against the Ruskies or speaking tosh?

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...greatness-guff

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Old Sep 7th 2013, 2:19 am
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Originally Posted by Shard
Dave has give a speech defending Britain at the G20...

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/v...l-island-video

Was he defending the realm against the Ruskies or speaking tosh?

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...greatness-guff
What a prick. I see now why Steve Bell always draws him with a condom on his head.
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To me, it was the correct response to the question that was asked at a press conference. It would have been tempting to respond by listing some of Russia's many failings, but he sensibly stuck to listing positive attributes of Britain.
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"Cleared the continent of facism."

I'm not surprised the Russians were upset, heard of Stalingrad?
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Originally Posted by Steve_
"Cleared the continent of facism."

I'm not surprised the Russians were upset, heard of Stalingrad?
The speech was actually a response to (alleged) comments from Putin that Britain is a small island that no one listens to anymore.
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Putin was right - Dave just lowered himself to Putins level - then again what would Cameron the wealthy private school boy know about small mindedness
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Originally Posted by not2old
Putin was right - Dave just lowered himself to Putins level - then again what would Cameron the wealthy private school boy know about small mindedness
Well, by most account he didn't lower himself to Putin's level, as refrained to take any cheap shots at Russia. Instead, he offered a fairly upbeat and positive depiction of British capability.
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Well, by most account he didn't lower himself to Putin's level, as refrained to take any cheap shots at Russia. Instead, he offered a fairly upbeat and positive depiction of British capability.
yes, it was that historical look back.

Cameron like most folks look at 'what we did' and cannot deal with or fix the current issues that effect the country

And it doesn't matter which government is in power - the problems will only get worse & with each revolving door ... guess what!

More British ex-pats have left than are returning.. go figure

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Originally Posted by not2old
yes, it was that historical look back.

Cameron like most folks look at 'what we did' and cannot deal with or fix the current issues that effect the country

And it doesn't matter which government is in power - the problems will only get worse & with each revolving door ... guess what!

More British ex-pats have left than are returning.. go figure
Not sure which problems you are referring to? Some Brits emigrating (as always) but nowhere near the number of people immigrating in. Heading to 70 million population within a decade.
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Originally Posted by Shard
Well, by most account he didn't lower himself to Putin's level, as refrained to take any cheap shots at Russia. Instead, he offered a fairly upbeat and positive depiction* of British capability.
But a totally deluded one.

Anyway, as of today, can one lower oneself to Putin's level? He's made Kerry and Obama look like amateurs.
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Originally Posted by Steve_
"Cleared the continent of facism."

I'm not surprised the Russians were upset, heard of Stalingrad?
Any Russian attempt to claim credit for clearing the continent of facism is surely mitigated by the Non-Aggression Pact they signed with Hitler in 1939, which freed up Nazi Germany to spread facism to much of Europe. The subsequent Soviet involvement in the war was also nothing to do with ending facism; they were defending themselves from the German invasion.
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Any Russian attempt to claim credit for clearing the continent of facism is surely mitigated by the Non-Aggression Pact they signed with Hitler in 1939, which freed up Nazi Germany to spread facism to much of Europe. The subsequent Soviet involvement in the war was also nothing to do with ending facism; they were defending themselves from the German invasion.
According to Dave, Britain cleared Europe of fascism (amongst other things).
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Originally Posted by danfolkestone
Any Russian attempt to claim credit for clearing the continent of facism is surely mitigated by the Non-Aggression Pact they signed with Hitler in 1939, which freed up Nazi Germany to spread facism to much of Europe. The subsequent Soviet involvement in the war was also nothing to do with ending facism; they were defending themselves from the German invasion.
So did the Munich Agreement. Oops.
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