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Joe_Sleepy Feb 1st 2011 10:30 am

Re: Sled dogs culled :(
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9145334)
Didn't that smelly tramp man on the old person's sitcom keep hamsters down his trousers?

Terry & June.?...

Auld Yin Feb 1st 2011 10:30 am

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There's no doubt that in certain situations the culling of animals, wild or tame, is necessary. The problem here, as I see it, is the methodology and the totally disorganized procedures used and, of course, the fact that dogs are generally perceived as cuddly pets. The fact that one man was expected to perform the task without any help apparently caused much distress to the dogs, and that is most distasteful.

Isn't it a case of being easier to apologize than do it properly and pay the sizable veterinary bill.

Siouxie Feb 1st 2011 10:35 am

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I totally agree with you Auld Yin !

In this instance (according to the news report) the Vets refused to put the dogs down as they were healthy. Whilst I understand their sentiments (and agree that a healthy animal should not have to be euthanised) in this case the alternative culling method was horrific and caused so much pain and suffering.. one wonders if they took this into consideration before refusing.

:(

fledermaus Feb 1st 2011 10:37 am

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Joking aside it sounds a terrible couple of days. If the dogs did have to be put down then pay a vet to do it. Maybe they would have refused?

I have no idea whether or not those animals could be rehomed but it was a barbaric way to deal with them.

In the meantime I continue to stick my head in the sand and ignore the general bad treatment of animals raised for food; dairy cows and goats in particular come to mind.

dbd33 Feb 1st 2011 10:38 am

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Originally Posted by mags1972 (Post 9145254)
Sled dogs are born to run and would doubtless not consider it a hard life,

I don't think dogs are much given to existential angst, "if only I were in Paris Hilton's handbag" or, conversely "if only I were running before a sled". Nonetheless, the conditions other than running experienced by sled dogs; fighting over reindeer carcasses, for example, would be difficult to replicate in Westminster. They have a manner of living ill suited to being urban pets and that rules out the majority of potential adopters.

Oink Feb 1st 2011 10:38 am

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Nothing beats this. :rofl:


dbd33 Feb 1st 2011 10:45 am

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Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 9145348)
In the meantime I continue to stick my head in the sand and ignore the general bad treatment of animals raised for food; dairy cows and goats in particular come to mind.

Those cases are not directly comparable. The treatment may be bad but it does result in a product of value to humanity. Horses and greyhounds are bred only to run, they're mass produced and the slower ones go to brutal slaughter, that's directly comparable to the sled dog case and happens every day. At least it does in Canada and Mexico, the US has laws governing that sort of thing.

fledermaus Feb 1st 2011 10:56 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9145370)
Those cases are not directly comparable. The treatment may be bad but it does result in a product of value to humanity. Horses and greyhounds are bred only to run, they're mass produced and the slower ones go to brutal slaughter, that's directly comparable to the sled dog case and happens every day. At least it does in Canada and Mexico, the US has laws governing that sort of thing.

That's true enough. I suppose I was trying to illustrate how everyday ill treatment is acceptable to provide us with cheap cheese, whereas a one off cull of sled dogs appalls.

Jingsamichty Feb 1st 2011 11:03 am

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It's quite acceptable in our modern societies to get rid of huge numbers of babies that aren't wanted, so why such an emotional fuss over a few dogs?

Lemonfish Feb 1st 2011 11:06 am

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Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon (Post 9143261)
http://www.cknw.com/Channels/Reg/New...spx?ID=1354856

ps tis only a new story = not pics so dont panic - but still v sad

also a petition - -http://apps.facebook.com/petitions/1/prosecute-for-the-senseless-slaughter-of-100-sled-dogs/

Looks a bit grim, but so are a lot of things in the world.

I'm always more worried about humans than animals.

When people are no longer starving to death, dying of easily preventable diseases or sleeping and freezing to death on the streets, then I'll worry about the dogs.

I guess some people find it easier to give sympathy to animals. They aren't as complex and messy as us humans.

Alan2005 Feb 1st 2011 12:59 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9145370)
Those cases are not directly comparable.

I disagree. People kill animals. Sometimes for fun, sometimes to eat them, sometimes because they are no longer useful. I don't see any one reason as any more or less ethical than another - the animal is still just as dead.

The problem here is that the person pulling the trigger was an idiot, not that the dogs were killed.

dbd33 Feb 1st 2011 1:18 pm

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9145550)
I don't see any one reason as any more or less ethical than another - the animal is still just as dead.

Ethics is all about the circumstances of death, is it not? It is, for example, arguably ethical to end the life of someone who knowingly chooses death with dignity, while it's not ethical to bump off your noisy neighbour even if he or she did play incessant Cancon.

Chookie Feb 1st 2011 1:55 pm

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Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 9145301)
We're all viscous when boiled up in a stew.

Especially if you let it go cold... it is all the connective tissue that does it you know....

As for the dogs - I can see that they may have had to do a cull/thin the numbers/put them down because they can't find homes for them all, but they should have done it humanely.

It was the way that it was done that got to me.

Poor dogs

mandymoochops Feb 1st 2011 2:14 pm

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mmmmm, not being able to download the linky to see, I'm not sure whether or not they could have been given to a shelter to rehabilitate and rehome???? Dunno - my guess is that 100 huskies is too many - so that option is out of the window.

Vets wouldn't put them down eh????? Can't say I blame em really.

Leaving the guy to dispose of them himself. Which by the sounds of it went a bit tits up.

None of the above scenarios are ideal tbh and I could get on my high horse about if you can't handle the fallout, don't get the animals in the first place.

However being the ex owner of a rank horse that went to slaughter because he was a freakin retard, I can't even stand by my own words.

So to summise IMO, sad but it happens.

Oakvillian Feb 1st 2011 2:23 pm

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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 9145411)
It's quite acceptable in our modern societies to get rid of huge numbers of babies that aren't wanted, so why such an emotional fuss over a few dogs?

Is it? Where is large-scale infanticide practiced in a modern society, please? Or are you crapping on about Harperite refusal of a woman's right to choose?


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