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Oink Apr 29th 2010 6:00 am

Sheds.
 
I can't see that this is terribly ground breaking research. In fact I'm surprised that men don't on average spend more time in their sheds.
But this story got me thinking about the perfect shed design.

Obviously you're going to have to have some sort of evidence of a hobby, such as seedlings, potting material, mechanical stuff, formaldehyde etc. as camouflage. Comfy seating is a must, but nothing too obvious like a settee. A well-disguised fridge or barrels of homebrew, I wouldn't put a telly in there, maybe a radio to "listen to the gardening programme." And maybe, if the budget ran to it, a pressure pad alarm for the garden path. And, finally a back gate so you can order take away without HID noticing. Can't think of anything else apart from making it well insulated to keep you toasty through those long winter evenings.

A shed is truly a modern man's castle. Do you have a shed now since you've moved to Canada? Did you have one when you lived back at home?



Sheds

dbd33 Apr 29th 2010 6:05 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8531062)
A shed is truly a modern man's castle. Do you have a shed now since you've moved to Canada? Did you have one when you lived back at home?

I have a shed. It came with the house. It's insulated and heated and has a little trap door for poking long things through. I have no need of a shed so I've just used it to store beer cans and wine bottles pending their return to the shop.

The shed could be important to me now. A prospective purchaser of the house thinks she could use it for work, she's a pyschic. I rather like the idea of it being the Shed of Seances.

Simon Legree Apr 29th 2010 6:06 am

Re: Sheds.
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8531062)
I can't see that this is terribly ground breaking research. In fact I'm surprised that men don't on average spend more time in their sheds.
But this story got me thinking about the perfect shed design.

Obviously you're going to have to have some sort of evidence of a hobby, such as seedlings, potting material, mechanical stuff, formaldehyde etc. as camouflage. Comfy seating is a must, but nothing too obvious like a settee. A well-disguised fridge or barrels of homebrew, I wouldn't put a telly in there, maybe a radio to "listen to the gardening programme." And maybe, if the budget ran to it, a pressure pad alarm for the garden path. And, finally a back gate so you can order take away without HID noticing. Can't think of anything else apart from making it well insulated to keep you toasty through those long winter evenings.

A shed is truly a modern man's castle. Do you have a shed now since you've moved to Canada? Did you have one when you lived back at home?



Sheds

I'd also install a loo and a stainless steel sink ! No, I don't have a shed. Never have had. I have a "play room" and a basement workshop where I can get out of the way of SWWould Like To Be Obeyed ;)

iaink Apr 29th 2010 6:10 am

Re: Sheds.
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8531062)
Do you have a shed now since you've moved to Canada? Did you have one when you lived back at home?

I have to confess that I dont have a shed. I do however now have a poured 10x10 concrete pad to build one on! The rest of the essential design features I have to figure out.

If considering it a "man cave" I would think decent insulation would be the first requirement, otherwise its only any good to you for a limited season here!

Funnily enough practising the sax is often casually refereed to as "shedding" or "woodshedding", so sound proofing for the sake of the neighbours might factor in:eek:

Simon Legree Apr 29th 2010 6:13 am

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Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8531084)
I have to confess that I dont have a shed. I do however now have a poured 10x10 concrete pad to build one on! The rest of the essential design features I have to figure out.

If considering it a "man cave" I would think decent insulation would be the first requirement, otherwise its only any good to you for a limited season here!

Funnily enough practising the sax is often casually refereed to as "shedding" or "woodshedding", so sound proofing for the sake of the neighbours might factor in:eek:

At least it isn't referred to here as "cottaging" then. ;)

JonboyE Apr 29th 2010 6:15 am

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I have an office in the basement. I can shut the door because "I am busy doing complicated things that I need to concentrate on." It has a TV and video because I need to watch instructional videos and DVDs. It has a settee (convenient for the TV) because clients need something comfortable to sit on. The office has its own door to freedom. All I need is the beer fridge and then I am sorted.

Mrs JonboyE works in the shed.

Atlantic Xpat Apr 29th 2010 6:20 am

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The Shed in Newfoundland is a thing of legend. The term is generally applied to any outbuilding used by Man so that includes garages. It's a place for carpentry, to store the toys - Skidoo, Quad, Snowblower etc, drink beer with the guys and generally do stuff that the Mrs won't let you do in the house. An uncle-in-law of mine has, at last count five shed's on his property but my buddy the RCMP officer has the best - woodstove, satellite tv, internet, every power tool known to man, compressor, welder, CNC milling machine etc etc. This shed, about 20 x 25ft isn't big enough so now has a rear extension and will shortly have a mezzanine floor. The british experience of a dusty, cobwebbed 6 x 8ft box is light years away.

My shed, (Garage) is 20 x 30ft, has it's own heating and urinal.:thumbup:

Oink Apr 29th 2010 6:20 am

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Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 8531092)
I have an office in the basement. I can shut the door because "I am busy doing complicated things that I need to concentrate on." It has a TV and video because I need to watch instructional videos and DVDs. It has a settee (convenient for the TV) because clients need something comfortable to sit on. The office has its own door to freedom. All I need is the beer fridge and then I am sorted.

Mrs JonboyE works in the shed.

Right. :rofl:


No need for a toilet just take a slash around the back of it. As for #2, just sneak back in when she's comotoised watching 90210 or Castle.

Jingsamichty Apr 29th 2010 6:27 am

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I don't have a Proper Shed here, but I do spend a disproportionate amount of time planning and sketching my ideal shed. Your functional specifications are very similar to mine, but I would add a little pot-bellied stove. I may also decide to take up pipe-smoking, but only in my shed.

My house in Norfolk used to have a shed, but the roof blew off in a storm and it fell down. It was never replaced, but it will be a nice project for me should I ever see my house again. Just thinking of it makes me want to put a nice cardigan on.

My old boss in Dubai has a shed in his garden with a window a/c unit hanging off it, and a proper English pub set up inside.

Madmac Apr 29th 2010 6:31 am

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I admit that I am now a shedaholic. I breed spiders and ants there. Cute little buggers(!).

Oink Apr 29th 2010 6:34 am

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 8531102)
The Shed in Newfoundland is a thing of legend. The term is generally applied to any outbuilding used by Man so that includes garages. It's a place for carpentry, to store the toys - Skidoo, Quad, Snowblower etc, drink beer with the guys and generally do stuff that the Mrs won't let you do in the house. An uncle-in-law of mine has, at last count five shed's on his property but my buddy the RCMP officer has the best - woodstove, satellite tv, internet, every power tool known to man, compressor, welder, CNC milling machine etc etc. This shed, about 20 x 25ft isn't big enough so now has a rear extension and will shortly have a mezzanine floor. The british experience of a dusty, cobwebbed 6 x 8ft box is light years away.

My shed, (Garage) is 20 x 30ft, has it's own heating and urinal.:thumbup:

North Americans always have to go over the top with these things and have to make them as big as possible. What's he going to do next put in an escalator or gold plated fountain? There's a certain aesthetic with a smallish British shed, one that creates a cozy sanctuary that speaks to the simplicity of moderation. Maybe its big enough for one mate to come round to play crib but noting ostentatious and vulgar.

Oink Apr 29th 2010 6:36 am

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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 8531119)
I don't have a Proper Shed here, but I do spend a disproportionate amount of time planning and sketching my ideal shed. Your functional specifications are very similar to mine, but I would add a little pot-bellied stove. I may also decide to take up pipe-smoking, but only in my shed.

My house in Norfolk used to have a shed, but the roof blew off in a storm and it fell down. It was never replaced, but it will be a nice project for me should I ever see my house again. Just thinking of it makes me want to put a nice cardigan on.

My old boss in Dubai has a shed in his garden with a window a/c unit hanging off it, and a proper English pub set up inside.

Both are nice touches. :thumbup:
You could also warm your soup on the stove while you potter.

iaink Apr 29th 2010 6:36 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8531103)
Right. :rofl:

Im sure some of those DVDs are very <coughs> instructional!;)

What do you think...if its indoors / basement it cant seriously be considered as a shed can it. Shed wannabe maybe, but not a shed.

Is it reasonable / possible to have both the basement mancave and the outdoors shed? Something to aspire to anyway...

Oink Apr 29th 2010 6:50 am

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Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8531137)
Im sure some of those DVDs are very <coughs> instructional!;)

What do you think...if its indoors / basement it cant seriously be considered as a shed can it. Shed wannabe maybe, but not a shed.

Is it reasonable / possible to have both the basement mancave and the outdoors shed? Something to aspire to anyway...

No, if it's indoors it don't count. It's the physical separation of the garden that creates the refuge.

Jingsamichty Apr 29th 2010 6:59 am

Re: Sheds.
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8531172)
No, if it's indoors it don't count. It's the physical separation of the garden that creates the refuge.

Yes, you need to be able to hear the rain on the roof, and see the windows steam up as you're heating up the tin mug of oxtail.

Souvy Apr 29th 2010 7:03 am

Re: Sheds.
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8531062)
I can't see that this is terribly ground breaking research. In fact I'm surprised that men don't on average spend more time in their sheds.
But this story got me thinking about the perfect shed design.

Obviously you're going to have to have some sort of evidence of a hobby, such as seedlings, potting material, mechanical stuff, formaldehyde etc. as camouflage. Comfy seating is a must, but nothing too obvious like a settee. A well-disguised fridge or barrels of homebrew, I wouldn't put a telly in there, maybe a radio to "listen to the gardening programme." And maybe, if the budget ran to it, a pressure pad alarm for the garden path. And, finally a back gate so you can order take away without HID noticing. Can't think of anything else apart from making it well insulated to keep you toasty through those long winter evenings.

A shed is truly a modern man's castle. Do you have a shed now since you've moved to Canada? Did you have one when you lived back at home?



Sheds

We have a little shed where we store useless stuff like garden tools. The garage is all mine. It's where I keep my toys and beer. It has a radio. It's sadly not a 4-season garage. I did put up insulation and drywall a few years back but never got around to taping, so it's a bit draughty. Plus, there is no insulation in the roof space.

I am going there now, to finish a piece of furniture I stupidly agreed to make.

ann m Apr 29th 2010 7:05 am

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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 8531195)
and see the windows steam up as you're heating up the tin mug of oxtail.

Is that what they are calling it nowadays?

Oink Apr 29th 2010 8:08 am

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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 8531195)
Yes, you need to be able to hear the rain on the roof, and see the windows steam up as you're heating up the tin mug of oxtail.

Or on a sunny summer afternoon, windows open, listening to the cricket, a few cans of ale and with a nice plate of cheese and pickle and egg and cress.

edited to add: And with a nod to post-modernity, a couple of packets of Monster Munch.

Jingsamichty Apr 29th 2010 8:20 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8531355)
Or on a sunny summer afternoon, windows open, listening to the cricket, a few cans of ale and with a nice plate of cheese and pickle and egg and cress.

This is like Mills & Boon for men. :thumbup:

R I C H Apr 29th 2010 8:32 am

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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 8531392)
This is like Mills & Boon for men. :thumbup:

All men need a large erection to provide solace and entertainment from time to time. He said, huskily.

fledermaus Apr 29th 2010 8:34 am

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We had a very small shed in the UK but now we have two sheds. One small and metal used as a wood store and the other is used for garden stuff. As Flederman has taken over the garage as his space I think the large shed would be very lovely with windows, maybe a verandah, a table and chairs. I could use it as a studio

Quite frankly I'm surprised that not many people mention being able to have a larger shed,multiple sheds even, as a reason for emigrating.

Oink Apr 29th 2010 8:35 am

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Does anyone have an allotment here? They call them 'community gardens' in Vancouver but there's never enough room to put up a shed and they all seem to get snapped up pretty quick anyway.

R I C H Apr 29th 2010 8:37 am

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Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 8531432)
Quite frankly I'm surprised that not many people mention being able to have a larger shed,multiple sheds even, as a reason for emigrating.

I had a 20,000 sq/ft shed until last fall. Damn thing was always full of horses, though occasional indoor motocross got a look in when her indoors was looking the other way and the nags were out. That was the ultimate man shed. :)

Alan2005 Apr 29th 2010 8:45 am

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Originally Posted by R I C H (Post 8531441)
I had a 20,000 sq/ft shed until last fall. Damn thing was always full of horses, though occasional indoor motocross got a look in when her indoors was looking the other way and the nags were out. That was the ultimate man shed. :)

Wouldn't that actually be a stable?

fledermaus Apr 29th 2010 8:49 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8531436)
Does anyone have an allotment here? They call them 'community gardens' in Vancouver but there's never enough room to put up a shed and they all seem to get snapped up pretty quick anyway.

We don't need an allotment as out back yard is park sized.

Haha, now I have remembered a fascinating story. Sit down and pour a beer while I tell it.

Many years ago when I lived in London (UK) a friend's niece came to stay with me. This naive 23 year old Canadian teacher thought that the allotments and sheds she saw from the Piccadilly line train were shanty towns for us poor Englanders.

My how I laughed.

Silly cow.

fledermaus Apr 29th 2010 8:50 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8531469)
Wouldn't that actually be a stable?

Only on Farmville

Alan2005 Apr 29th 2010 8:52 am

Re: Sheds.
 

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 8531481)
We don't need an allotment as out back yard is park sized.

Haha, now I have remembered a fascinating story. Sit down and pour a beer while I tell it.

Many years ago when I lived in London (UK) a friend's niece came to stay with me. This naive 23 year old Canadian teacher thought that the allotments and sheds she saw from the Piccadilly line train were shanty towns for us poor Englanders.

My how I laughed.

Silly cow.

I hope you told her that was true.

R I C H Apr 29th 2010 8:54 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8531469)
Wouldn't that actually be a stable?

The stabling area was adjoined to the indoor arena and the rest of the 'shed'.

fledermaus Apr 29th 2010 9:00 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8531490)
I hope you told her that was true.

Wish I had. You know she stayed with me for 2 weeks and ate all the ice cream and drank all the booze. Not one gift came into that flat, no flowers, no wine.

Next time I see her I will remind her- about the allotments not the gifts thing

Novocastrian Apr 29th 2010 9:10 am

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I have 2 sheds.

Novo "Two-Sheds" Castrian

Piff Poff Apr 29th 2010 9:17 am

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My husbands version of a shed is his garage's. They consist of all things mechanical and a mans version of tidy and in order, to discourage me from rummaging around to look for something that I wish to use (rake/diggy diggy tools/pushbike/motorbike/snow shovel/spade etc).

His work garage consists of a tv, a couple of chairs, a stereo, several posters and old number plates hanging from the walls. Spare parts and a couple of works in progress, not forgetting his two huge tool boxes and compressor. I am allowed into this holy area when I am bringing cups of tea and sandwiches, I am even allowed to 'visit' for a while when refereshments are brought, I usually then get roped into lifting something that apparently isn't very heavy:sneaky:(usually is very heavy) and then my fingers are usually very close to where the hammer has to fall -or I have to lift and push and wiggle the bleedin' heavy thing into place. Once that is done I will disappear until the next cuppa time!

Oink Apr 29th 2010 9:21 am

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Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 8531579)
My husbands version of a shed is his garage's. They consist of all things mechanical and a mans version of tidy and in order, to discourage me from rummaging around to look for something that I wish to use (rake/diggy diggy tools/pushbike/motorbike/snow shovel/spade etc).

His work garage consists of a tv, a couple of chairs, a stereo, several posters and old number plates hanging from the walls. Spare parts and a couple of works in progress, not forgetting his two huge tool boxes and compressor. I am allowed into this holy area when I am bringing cups of tea and sandwiches, I am even allowed to 'visit' for a while when refereshments are brought, I usually then get roped into lifting something that apparently isn't very heavy:sneaky:(usually is very heavy) and then my fingers are usually very close to where the hammer has to fall -or I have to lift and push and wiggle the bleedin' heavy thing into place. Once that is done I will disappear until the next cuppa time!

Couldn't he rig up some sort of dumbwaiter or a hatch conversion so you could just send the sandwiches and tea through?

Piff Poff Apr 29th 2010 9:24 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8531591)
Couldn't he rig up some sort of dumbwaiter or a hatch conversion so you could just send the sandwiches and tea through?

Nah, its to far from the house - it's the 2nd double garage that he like to play in - anyhow, he couldn't get a waiter dumber than me:rofl:

Alan2005 Apr 29th 2010 9:30 am

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All this talk of garages, 20,000ft barns with moto-cross courses in etc. When I eventually get a shed it will look like this:

http://www.telltheinternet.co.uk/images/shed.jpg

R I C H Apr 29th 2010 9:47 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8531612)
All this talk of garages, 20,000ft barns with moto-cross courses in etc. When I eventually get a shed it will look like this:

http://www.telltheinternet.co.uk/images/shed.jpg

That's the walk-in closet for your shed, right?

Alan2005 Apr 29th 2010 9:49 am

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Originally Posted by R I C H (Post 8531657)
That's the walk-in closet for your shed, right?

Hmph, there's really no need to make my shed aspirations look gay.

Oink Apr 29th 2010 9:49 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8531612)
All this talk of garages, 20,000ft barns with moto-cross courses in etc. When I eventually get a shed it will look like this:

http://www.telltheinternet.co.uk/images/shed.jpg

Or this one.

http://www.cheapgardensheds.org/imag...den%20shed.jpg

Jingsamichty Apr 29th 2010 9:51 am

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Alan - I can just see you emerging from your shed....

"This week, I 'as mostly been eatin' radishes."

R I C H Apr 29th 2010 9:52 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8531663)

It's a bit 'child's play house', isn't it?

A decent BBQ on that little deck's going to combust the whole structure. Probably not the worst thing that could happen.

Jingsamichty Apr 29th 2010 9:52 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8531663)

A fine specimen indeed.


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