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Zoe Bell Feb 4th 2008 12:54 pm

Self Cleaning Ovens
 
I don't think ours works because I left the Mr muscle and cloths in front of it last night but it was still filthy in the morning ;)

Seriously , how do these things work? Our gas oven has a button that says "clean" as well as the usual "bake" and "broil" options.

So , bearing in mind that I'm not a huge fan of housework, and cleaning ovens was bottom of my list of favourite household jobs, what will happen when I press said button?

What does the self clean button do ?
How long does it take?
what input is required from me?
are any extra cleaning products needed?
do i put them in before or after pressing the button?

In the Uk I discovered a lovely company that came to your house and did the loathed job for me. However seeing as I'm currently not working , I can't really pull the "I don't have time" line

Any help would be great as oven is fast approaching the stage where it sets off the (incredibly badly placed) smoke alarm whenever you cook above a certain temp. :)

Biiiiink Feb 4th 2008 1:00 pm

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It's just a pyrolytic clean, you sweep out the ash after. Mine have both said don't use any chemicals to clean at all, particularly on the seal as it knackers it.

It does take a long time, maybe 3hours or so? I remember we had to find a weekend that we were going to be around for the duration to do it - didn't fancy leaving it unsupervised the first time in case the house burnt down too ;)

It locks itself whilst it cleans so there's no danger of Jr opening a door and carbonising himself.

bazzz Feb 4th 2008 1:01 pm

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Apparently it just heats up to a very hot temperature and vaporizes (boils, sublimes?) off any gunk. We haven't tried it yet. The idea scares me.

mkmurrays Feb 4th 2008 1:03 pm

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I've used our self clean function a couple of times, and, boy, is it fierce. Set off the smoke alarms and almost poached the dog who happened to sit by the oven door.
It's effective but as Biiink says, it takes forever and isn't for the faint hearted.

Steve_P Feb 4th 2008 1:08 pm

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If you are going to use the self clean function and there's nothing wrong with doing so.

One major suggestion. Take out the oven racks before you start. The process ruins the chrome like finish on the racks and pots, pans and the like no longer slide easily on the racks if you clean them along with the oven.

Mrs_P always removes the racks and cleans them with oven cleaner or some other such item.

Cheers
Steve

ladymoose Feb 4th 2008 1:12 pm

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I love mine - use it once a month or so when there's been a particularly bad food explosion in the oven or else a bit of a build up :o

Like Biiiink said, just gets really, really hot for a while, then you open and wipe off the ash. Remember to take out the racks first (and leave a window open) - then mine gives you the choice of 2-4 hours I think.

Enjoy :)

Bill_S Feb 4th 2008 2:12 pm

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Others have told you what happens - extreme heat for a few hours to burn off the soil. They haven't told you the most important point:

the oven door LOCKS while this is going on. So NEVER use the self-clean cycle BEFORE cooking the big holiday meal. The cycle will start, the door will lock, and the mechanism will bollix up leaving you with a locked-up, nonfunctional oven at exactly the wrong time. Wait until AFTER the big family dinner to do this. Trust me, you can thank me later.

hot wasabi peas Feb 4th 2008 2:14 pm

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Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 5885500)
Any help would be great as oven is fast approaching the stage where it sets off the (incredibly badly placed) smoke alarm whenever you cook above a certain temp. :)


I'd just move, it's easier.

;)

Zoe Bell Feb 4th 2008 2:15 pm

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Ok this sounds like a really bad idea , due to some wonderful design feature we have a smoke alarm about 2 ft from our kitchen, its wired into the condo system so no way of turning it off (unless anyone out there wishes to enlighten me!).

I love our open concept condo but the smoke alarm placement is really bad . If i'm cooking something that is likely to get smokey we have the wonderful system whereby Ben holds a dish over the smoke alarm whilst I open the oven.:rofl:

So i guess its icky chemical time for me as I dare not risk setting off all the smoke alarms in the place. If nothing else they do my head in!!

Thanks for the posts but looks like I'll have to do it the old fashioned way <stomps away grumbling>

AlvicBC Feb 4th 2008 2:22 pm

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Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 5885804)
Ok this sounds like a really bad idea , due to some wonderful design feature we have a smoke alarm about 2 ft from our kitchen, its wired into the condo system so no way of turning it off (unless anyone out there wishes to enlighten me!).
I love our open concept condo but the smoke alarm placement is really bad . If i'm cooking something that is likely to get smokey we have the wonderful system whereby Ben holds a dish over the smoke alarm whilst I open the oven.:rofl:

So i guess its icky chemical time for me as I dare not risk setting off all the smoke alarms in the place. If nothing else they do my head in!!

Thanks for the posts but looks like I'll have to do it the old fashioned way <stomps away grumbling>

OH turned ours off once with the end of a brush shaft - if that's any help:rofl:

startwin Feb 4th 2008 2:45 pm

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Originally Posted by AlvicSK (Post 5885832)
OH turned ours off once with the end of a brush shaft - if that's any help:rofl:

Same here, or I used to wave the tea-towel at it as soon as the alarm started. Good exercise as long as you change arms now and then.:rofl:

I love my self-clean oven, I clean it once a year whether it needs it or not, LOL. It takes about 3 hours, so you need to schedule it for when you are staying most of the day. And don't forget it takes ages for the oven to cool day to the point that it unlocks.

Purley Feb 4th 2008 2:58 pm

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My oven is filthy, but I am not going to use the self-cleaning feature until the weather is warm enough that I can open the window and turn the fan on in the dining room. The oven gets really hot and it doesn't smell great, so doing it when the house is shut up is likely to make the house smell not great.

Steve_P Feb 4th 2008 3:04 pm

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Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 5885804)
Ok this sounds like a really bad idea , due to some wonderful design feature we have a smoke alarm about 2 ft from our kitchen, its wired into the condo system so no way of turning it off (unless anyone out there wishes to enlighten me!).

Enlightenment. :)

Temporarily disable the smoke alarm by standing on a chair beneath it, place a plastic bag over the alarm and secure the bag with a large elastic band.

Once oven has been cleaned and smoke dissipates remove plastic bag. :)

Cheers
Steve

destinationnovascotia Feb 4th 2008 3:28 pm

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Originally Posted by startwin (Post 5885925)
I love my self-clean oven, I clean it once a year whether it needs it or not, LOL.

About right. Have you any idea how much power the self clean uses? Just make the most of it by turning off the heating and all sitting in the kitchen for the day to balance the expense.

Steve_P Feb 4th 2008 4:13 pm

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Originally Posted by destinationnovascotia (Post 5886051)
About right. Have you any idea how much power the self clean uses? Just make the most of it by turning off the heating and all sitting in the kitchen for the day to balance the expense.

According to wikipedia approximately 44 cents for every two hours.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_appliances

Not exactly going to break the bank.

Judy in Calgary Feb 4th 2008 4:52 pm

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Originally Posted by destinationnovascotia
About right. Have you any idea how much power the self clean uses? Just make the most of it by turning off the heating and all sitting in the kitchen for the day to balance the expense.

It's ever so worth it. I love the self cleaning feature of my oven. You can save a bit of money by turning the self cleaning cycle on after you've baked something in the oven. In that case, the oven already is warm, and has less heating up to do to reach the temperature at which the dirt is turned to ash. But, even if you don't do that, the electricity is cheaper and far more pleasant than some radio-active (joke) chemical would be.

Coffeepot Feb 4th 2008 6:27 pm

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Originally Posted by Judy in Calgary (Post 5886260)
It's ever so worth it. I love the self cleaning feature of my oven. You can save a bit of money by turning the self cleaning cycle on after you've baked something in the oven. In that case, the oven already is warm, and has less heating up to do to reach the temperature at which the dirt is turned to ash. But, even if you don't do that, the electricity is cheaper and far more pleasant than some radio-active (joke) chemical would be.

Mine doesn't have a self clean so i push the OH button instead :rofl:

welshchem Feb 5th 2008 1:34 am

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Originally Posted by Coffeepot (Post 5886496)
Mine doesn't have a self clean so i push the OH button instead :rofl:

The child in me loves when the oven gets dirty. I have been known to throw the odd frozen chip in there before running the self clean. There's something soothing about watching things not-so-spontaneously burst into flames. Perhaps I need help:blink:

RodRos&Co. Feb 5th 2008 1:34 am

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Originally Posted by Coffeepot (Post 5886496)
Mine doesn't have a self clean so i push the OH button instead :rofl:

mine doesn't have 1 of those either:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Zoe Bell Feb 5th 2008 1:43 am

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now you have me really worried. Our condo has heat detectors which are wired directly into the buildings fire alert system. If they go off then the whole building fire alarm goes off and the fire brigade arrives!!!

Normally I wouldn't object to a truck full of fit blokes arriving on my doorstep but I do seem to recall we get charged for false alarms we cause!:p


Definately wont be able to try self clean until summer but don't think oven will last that long without some cleaning attention

Piff Poff Feb 5th 2008 2:05 am

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I love the self clean button:thumbsup:

I haven't experienced excessive amount of smoke, in fact when I 1st got my new oven, it filled the house with smoke every time I used it, apart on self clean:blink: (oven has since been swapped for one that isn't a fire hazard.

You could always use the self clean function on a chilly day - without the heating on full.

As Steve says take out the shelves or they will lose their easy slide feel.

Zoe Bell Feb 5th 2008 2:25 am

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just on a side note , we don't have our heating on at the moment. In fact we haven't put it on at all this winter. I'm sitting here in a short sleeved t shirt. The lounge and bedroom windows are open and last night we put the summer duvet back on the bed cause we were sick of roasting at night.

welshchem Feb 5th 2008 2:34 am

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Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 5888731)
just on a side note , we don't have our heating on at the moment. In fact we haven't put it on at all this winter. I'm sitting here in a short sleeved t shirt. The lounge and bedroom windows are open and last night we put the summer duvet back on the bed cause we were sick of roasting at night.

Perhaps everyone else in your building likes it hot. You just get the bleed through, I suppose if hydro's included everyone wants to get their 'money's worth'.;)

Zoe Bell Feb 5th 2008 2:54 am

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think the south west facing windows also help , it actually gets really hot when we have a sunny day. It makes deciding what to wear when going out quite tricky to judge

Rob4BC Feb 5th 2008 3:09 am

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Originally Posted by welshchem (Post 5888756)
Perhaps everyone else in your building likes it hot. You just get the bleed through, I suppose if hydro's included everyone wants to get their 'money's worth'.;)

Have you got time to post here? Shouldn't you be unpacking?:p:rofl:

welshchem Feb 5th 2008 3:38 am

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Originally Posted by Rob4BC (Post 5888857)
Have you got time to post here? Shouldn't you be unpacking?:p:rofl:

I'm just about done. It's been a busy week but we're getting there. Got a few more trips to Richmond hill to pick up some odds and ends and to try and sell a set of patio furniture and a BBQ but then I'll be able to relax and enjjoy the new lifestyle.

Tuppence Feb 5th 2008 3:45 am

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I hadn't built up the courage to use our 'self clean' button yet, either. Every bloody time the oven is on and we open the door, the smoke detector goes off. I hope this will solve it.

Looks like a fun event for a Sunday afternoon :blink::D

manghams Feb 5th 2008 4:17 am

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Originally Posted by welshchem (Post 5888433)
The child in me loves when the oven gets dirty. I have been known to throw the odd frozen chip in there before running the self clean. There's something soothing about watching things not-so-spontaneously burst into flames. Perhaps I need help:blink:



Pyromaniac maybe...... ;)

I haven't tried mine yet; it does need it, but I am scared :ohmy:

GavinR Feb 5th 2008 4:46 am

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just on a side note , we don't have our heating on at the moment. In fact we haven't put it on at all this winter. I'm sitting here in a short sleeved t shirt. The lounge and bedroom windows are open and last night we put the summer duvet back on the bed cause we were sick of roasting at night.
Had a similar problem when we lived in Ontario, the apartment was rediculously hot, 28c if I remember rightly. Usually you can set the air conditioning to cycle cold air up from the basement which cools things down nicely but you have to do something to turn off the compressor first so that it doesn't burn out. Stupid thing with apartments, the aircon is only available between certain dates, doesn't matter how hot it is outside!

Rob4BC Feb 5th 2008 4:58 am

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Originally Posted by welshchem (Post 5888961)
I'm just about done. It's been a busy week but we're getting there. Got a few more trips to Richmond hill to pick up some odds and ends and to try and sell a set of patio furniture and a BBQ but then I'll be able to relax and enjjoy the new lifestyle.

So does your new oven self clean? <no thread drift accusations for me - well not much>

Oh, and as you're about done, what time do you want us Friday night for drinkies and dinner?:lol:

Rob4BC Feb 5th 2008 5:01 am

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Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 5885500)
I don't think ours works because I left the Mr muscle and cloths in front of it last night but it was still filthy in the morning ;)

Your problem is that Mr. Muscle only works in the UK - here you need Mr. Clean!:p:D:rofl:

Edna Bucket Feb 5th 2008 5:52 am

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Originally Posted by Judy in Calgary (Post 5886260)
It's ever so worth it. I love the self cleaning feature of my oven. You can save a bit of money by turning the self cleaning cycle on after you've baked something in the oven. In that case, the oven already is warm, and has less heating up to do to reach the temperature at which the dirt is turned to ash. But, even if you don't do that, the electricity is cheaper and far more pleasant than some radio-active (joke) chemical would be.


The instructions with my self cleaning oven say that you must start the process from cold but it doesn't say why :confused:

rae Feb 5th 2008 9:19 am

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we have used it once(notice the we, i pressed the button, the wife worried what was going to happend for 3hrs) we must have a really fancy oven as it has a quick clean-minor steel furnace, and a long clean-ground zero atomic type. i was dissapointed, still had marks and bits in it.

Journeyman Electrician Feb 5th 2008 10:04 am

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Don't bother with all that technology.........see attached link
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508081

manghams Feb 5th 2008 12:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Journeyman Electrician (Post 5890946)
Don't bother with all that technology.........see attached link
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508081


:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Mrs Madmac Feb 5th 2008 12:59 pm

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Okay - so it sounds like we all have similar cookers................ can anyone tell me where to find a grill pan with a handle...... you know ........the broil tin so that I can try to use the broiler as a grill more effectively?

I have this awful blue enamel tin with what I can only describe as a vented lid which is a killer...... the food does not drain properly while cooking and the smoke....... well I end up with the tea towel flapping duty....... and it is a new cooker with a new "broil" tin/tray type thing.

(I know they are different here when it comes to "grills"...... when we were looking at cookers they even had them with the broiler in the bottom......... yes ..... right at the bottom where you would usually put your baking trays......... can you imagine that............. cooked feet........... cooked pet............. it just seemed really strange........... or maybe that is just me :)

manghams Feb 5th 2008 1:03 pm

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Originally Posted by Mrs Madmac (Post 5891557)
Okay - so it sounds like we all have similar cookers................ can anyone tell me where to find a grill pan with a handle...... you know ........the broil tin so that I can try to use the broiler as a grill more effectively?

I have this awful blue enamel tin with what I can only describe as a vented lid which is a killer...... the food does not drain properly while cooking and the smoke....... well I end up with the tea towel flapping duty....... and it is a new cooker with a new "broil" tin/tray type thing.

(I know they are different here when it comes to "grills"...... when we were looking at cookers they even had them with the broiler in the bottom......... yes ..... right at the bottom where you would usually put your baking trays......... can you imagine that............. cooked feet........... cooked pet............. it just seemed really strange........... or maybe that is just me :)

Broil - grill; took me a while to understand that one. And, no, my cooker does not have a grill pan, let alone an handle. :rofl: Had to go and buy one!!!! :curse:

Mrs Madmac Feb 5th 2008 1:27 pm

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Originally Posted by manghams (Post 5891572)
Broil - grill; took me a while to understand that one. And, no, my cooker does not have a grill pan, let alone an handle. :rofl: Had to go and buy one!!!! :curse:

Yes it got me too - I actually told someone I had a cooker with no grill because I thought broil was some kind of simmering function!

If anyone finds a real grill pan - do let me know :)

Biiiiink Feb 5th 2008 1:29 pm

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I use the BBQ for things I would have bunged under the grill at home. Like you, I can't be bothered with the fire/mess on broiler pan afterwards. It kind of makes sense though, grilling on the "grill", doesn't it?! I just wish it was inside ;)

Mrs Madmac Feb 5th 2008 1:35 pm

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I do have a friend who swears by using the BBQ - even in the winter! (His wife also agrees because the house won't smell when he cooks.) However Mr Madmac is not so keen............ wonder why? A wee bit of fresh air never did anyone any harm :rofl:


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